Shady Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: How is what I cited not a law? Description The Logan Act is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized persons with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position. Wikipedia Quote
Dougie93 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Got a cite, other than your ass? You made the assertion, I asked the question, the onus is on you to cite, you cited a unrelated law as an apparent smokescreen /shrugs Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 I provided a cite backing up my assertion. You claim it doesn't relate to what it relates to based on...your ass. If you have information that contradicts what I said, where did you get your information from? It's a simple question you seem afraid to answer. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shady said: Description The Logan Act is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized persons with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position. Wikipedia Exactly. Thank you. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, BubberMiley said: Exactly. Thank you. Lol. /facepalm Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shady said: Lol. /facepalm Do you have words that can express how that differs from what I said? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Army Guy Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Cannucklehead said: Wrong. Please re-read the articles. I think dougie is on the right track below is a few sources.... http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/bomarc-missile-crisis Canada[edit] The Bomarc Missile Program was highly controversial in Canada.[15] The Progressive Conservative government of Prime Minister John Diefenbaker initially agreed to deploy the missiles, and shortly thereafter controversially scrapped the Avro Arrow, a supersonic manned interceptor aircraft, arguing that the missile program made the Arrow unnecessary.[15] Initially, it was unclear whether the missiles would be equipped with nuclear warheads. By 1960 it became known that the missiles were to have a nuclear payload, and a debate ensued about whether Canada should accept nuclear weapons.[16] Ultimately, the Diefenbaker government decided that the Bomarcs should not be equipped with nuclear warheads.[17] The dispute split the Diefenbaker Cabinet, and led to the collapse of the government in 1963.[17] The Official Opposition and Liberal Party leader Lester B. Pearson originally was against nuclear missiles, but reversed his personal position and argued in favor of accepting nuclear warheads.[18] He won the 1963 election, largely on the basis of this issue, and his new Liberal government proceeded to accept nuclear-armed Bomarcs, with the first being deployed on 31 December 1963.[19] When the nuclear warheads were deployed, Pearson's wife, Maryon, resigned her honorary membership in the anti-nuclear weapons group, Voice of Women.[16][why?] Canadian operational deployment of the Bomarc involved the formation of two specialized Surface/Air Missile squadrons. The first to begin operations was No. 446 SAM Squadron at RCAF Station North Bay, which was the command and control center for both squadrons.[19] With construction of the compound and related facilities completed in 1961, the squadron received its Bomarcs in 1961, without nuclear warheads.[19] The squadron became fully operational from 31 December 1963, when the nuclear warheads arrived, until disbanding on 31 March 1972. All the warheads were stored separately and under control of Detachment 1 of the USAF 425th Munitions Maintenance Squadron. During operational service, the Bomarcs were maintained on stand-by, on a 24-hour basis, but were never fired, although the squadron test-fired the missiles at Eglin AFB, Florida on annual winter retreats.[20] No. 447 SAM Squadron operating out of RCAF Station La Macaza, Quebec, was activated on 15 September 1962 although warheads were not delivered until late 1963. The squadron followed the same operational procedures as No. 446, its sister squadron. With the passage of time the operational capability of the 1950s-era Bomarc system no longer met modern requirements; the Department of National Defence deemed that the Bomarc missile defense was no longer a viable system, and ordered both squadrons to be stood down in 1972. The bunkers and ancillary facilities remain at both former sites.[21] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIM-10_Bomarc#cite_note-Canadian_Crisis-15 https://www.lermuseum.org/1946-to-present/1957-1964/bomarc-missile-and-the-nuclear-weapons-controversy-1958-1963 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
QuebecOverCanada Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Do you have words that can express how that differs from what I said? Thank you for being on this forum. You're an entertaining masterpiece. 1 Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, QuebecOverCanada said: Thank you for being on this forum. You're an entertaining masterpiece. You're welcome. I'm glad to school all of you on basic information. 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Army Guy Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, BubberMiley said: You're welcome. I'm glad to school all of you on basic information. is this where we bend the knee and kiss the ring ? Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Army Guy said: is this where we bend the knee and kiss the ring ? Unnecessary. I'm smug enough as it is. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: You're welcome. I'm glad to school all of you on basic information. You can’t even correctly discern what the purpose of the Logan act, and what it applies to. Go back to school son! Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Shady said: You can’t even correctly discern what the purpose of the Logan act, and what it applies to. Go back to school son! I'm still waiting for the explanation of exactly how I'm wrong with something other than your ass to back it up. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 Yeah. You got nothing. I guess I'll just use my coup de grace now. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: I'm still waiting for the explanation of exactly how I'm wrong with something other than your ass to back it up. The purpose of the act is to prevent citizens not of the government from intervening in a dispute. You’re citing an act that has no application to so called election interference. Furthermore, you’re apparently not wise enough to even realize it. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: The funny thing about giant retarded baby Canada is that it is its own worst enemy. Going to use "giant retarded baby" in my insults from now on, thank you for that gem! Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Shady Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, BubberMiley said: Yeah. You got nothing. I guess I'll just use my coup de grace now. So you admit that the Logan Act doesn’t apply. Finally. But, yes, foreign campaign payments can be illegal. Quote
Army Guy Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Unnecessary. I'm smug enough as it is. Smug but humble I see... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonlight Graham Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 Obama should STFU cuz nobody cares who he endorses in Canada. Regards, Canada Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Dougie93 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, Moonlight Graham said: Going to use "giant retarded baby" in my insults from now on, thank you for that gem! It's giant sized, the governance is retarded, and is totally dependent on America for its care and feeding, then poops in its diapers and throws tantrums about it. Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Shady said: The purpose of the act is to prevent citizens not of the government from intervening in a dispute. You’re citing an act that has no application to so called election interference. Furthermore, you’re apparently not wise enough to even realize it. It applies to circumventing proper channels and working with a foreign government on anything, including election interference. It's so simple, I think you might even understand. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Shady said: So you admit that the Logan Act doesn’t apply. Finally. But, yes, foreign campaign payments can be illegal. The Logan Act applies. But yes, I'm sure they broke plenty of laws. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Moonlight Graham Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: It's giant sized, the governance is retarded, and is totally dependent on America for its care and feeding, then poops in its diapers and throws tantrums about it. Well the US let's them. So who's the chump? Canada gets a ton of free security from the US, that's a pretty good deal. Doesn't mean it has to kneel down and suck America's penis because of it. But I get your point. Most Canadians are greatly unappreciative of the US. When China becomes the lone global superpower they'll come to miss American hegemony. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Shady Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: The Logan Act applies. But yes, I'm sure they broke plenty of laws. No it absolutely doesn’t apply. You don’t understand the purpose and application of the law. Maybe read up on its conception and George Logan. Hopefully you’ll get a better understanding. For now we can just agree to disagree. Until you better inform yourself. Quote
Dougie93 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Well the US let's them. So who's the chump? . It's not a questions of "let", America doesn't care, America doesn't even notice, America doesn't demand anything from Canada because Americans never think about it. It's crippling to Canada, it doesn't effect America. Edited October 18, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote
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