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16 minutes ago, taxme said:

Let's get real here. If someone in Wynne's cabinet had done the same thing an apology would have been accepted and all would be forgiven and forgotten. 

 

I think I am being real here. Her behaviour was outlandish by any standard. This wasn’t an argument that got a little heated. 

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16 hours ago, taxme said:

I can go to the city of Blaine, Wash. on the border of White Rock, BC and I can buy booze in grocery stores, drug stores, gas stations, small grocery stores and big stores like Walmart and Costco.

What is the selection like? 

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8 hours ago, GostHacked said:

What is the selection like? 

One can buy just about anything in most of those booze store and gas outlets in all of Washington state. They all have a huge variety of alcohol. Gas stations appear to be left to just selling beer and wine. BC has come a long way since EXPO 86 but they still have a long way to go to catch up to the 21st century when it comes to the selling of liquor everywhere in BC. :)

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6 minutes ago, taxme said:

One can buy just about anything in most of those booze store and gas outlets in all of Washington state. They all have a huge variety of alcohol. Gas stations appear to be left to just selling beer and wine. BC has come a long way since EXPO 86 but they still have a long way to go to catch up to the 21st century when it comes to the selling of liquor everywhere in BC. :)

So is Ford going to kill the LCBO next?? That would also be a really stupid move.

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If this is all moved to grocery stores and convenience stores, one can expect a rise in theft , robberies and assaults smash and grabs ect.  Currently we don't see that kind of crime when it comes to the current model. Not saying it does not happen at all. But I would be interested in the stats now and then if they manage to kill the Beer Store.

The fact alone that this contract cancelling will cost over 100 million, and then the mayhem of from a solid supply chain to a multitude of smaller deliveries to way more locations than are needed. That's going to be a nightmare.

Beer and booze do NOT need to be sold everywhere.

Should we treat weed the same way then? Sell it in all the stores??

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13 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

So is Ford going to kill the LCBO next?? That would also be a really stupid move.

I have no idea as to what Ford is going to do. I cannot read his mind. The LCBO being just another government bureaucracy, I would have no problem with it taking a chit kicking. Without so much government around, my life would be a lot more freer, and less expensive to live. Personally, government is the problem, and there is just too much government involvement in our daily lives. If Ford does downsize the government well then that does work well for me. One cannot fathom as to how much government there is that is running and ruling and even ruining our daily lives. The amount of taxes and government red tape that all of the different levels of governments have created and shoved and forced upon us taxpayer's is so massive that it could probably cover Toronto city hall in government bureaucracy needless and useless piles of created red tape paperwork. What is stupid and sad is that most Canadians appear to not seem to give a crap. But maybe Ford does. Just saying. 

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21 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

If this is all moved to grocery stores and convenience stores, one can expect a rise in theft , robberies and assaults smash and grabs ect.  Currently we don't see that kind of crime when it comes to the current model. Not saying it does not happen at all. But I would be interested in the stats now and then if they manage to kill the Beer Store.

The fact alone that this contract cancelling will cost over 100 million, and then the mayhem of from a solid supply chain to a multitude of smaller deliveries to way more locations than are needed. That's going to be a nightmare.

Beer and booze do NOT need to be sold everywhere.

Should we treat weed the same way then? Sell it in all the stores??

I agree that there could be more robberies as a result of smaller grocery stores selling booze. But that should be left up to any store owner that wants to take that chance. It's called free enterprise. Besides there are many jewelry stores around but there is not that many robberies in those stores.  The store owners know the risk and they take that risk.  

Look at it this way. How many more jobs could be created if there were more stores selling booze? There would be the need for more delivery trucks, there would be more job opportunities created to help put plenty of money into the economy and system. 

If the government is going to allow the sales of weed, then it should be sold by and in the private sector and let those selling that junk take their chances. I am pretty sure that it will be monitored and well controlled by the government. As far as I can see, Ford is a conservative and all for the free enterprise system and that works for me. Just saying. 

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15 hours ago, taxme said:

Look at it this way. How many more jobs could be created if there were more stores selling booze? There would be the need for more delivery trucks, there would be more job opportunities created to help put plenty of money into the economy and system.

How many jobs are you eliminating? And yes decent paying jobs are lost replaced by low wage part time workers.

What's the gain? And if we are spending 200 million to CANCEL the contract. How does that same money?  It seems like a stupid

 

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7 hours ago, GostHacked said:

How many jobs are you eliminating? And yes decent paying jobs are lost replaced by low wage part time workers.

What's the gain? And if we are spending 200 million to CANCEL the contract. How does that same money?  It seems like a stupid

 

I would be eliminating a lot more jobs if I were the Premier of Ontario.  Blame the federal government for the low wages we are seeing today. The feds keep bringing in too many new immigrants who are coming here and will work for lower wages. Don't try and blame lower wages on Ford. Blame Trudeau. Tax dollars will always be saved when the government downsizes. Doesn't it make more sense to downsize all levels of governments and then the taxpayer's can save hundreds of billions of their tax dollars from being wasted by a bunch of useless bureaucrats that do not know as to what the hell they are doing with your tax dollars nor care? It is stupid to have more government rather than less government. Just saying. 

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3 minutes ago, taxme said:

I would be eliminating a lot more jobs if I were the Premier of Ontario.  Blame the federal government for the low wages we are seeing today. The feds keep bringing in too many new immigrants who are coming here and will work for lower wages.

Hang on. You cannot legally hire for less than minimum wage. LEGALLY is the real important word here. If a company is hiring for less than the mandated government minimum wage, then they should be shut down and prosecuted.

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Don't try and blame lower wages on Ford. Blame Trudeau.

Trudeau does not mandate minimum wage laws on the provincial level. Minimum wage is mandated by each province.  If anything Ontario and Alberta seem to have the highest minimum wage rates. There is a nice graphic on this page that shows the minimum wage in each province. I don't think I want to move to the east coast. As nice as that area is (and it's fackin gorgeous out there) , they simply can't pay it out.

https://www.retailcouncil.org/resources/quick-facts/minimum-wage-by-province/

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Tax dollars will always be saved when the government downsizes. Doesn't it make more sense to downsize all levels of governments and then the taxpayer's can save hundreds of billions of their tax dollars from being wasted by a bunch of useless bureaucrats that do not know as to what the hell they are doing with your tax dollars nor care? It is stupid to have more government rather than less government. Just saying. 

Let's talk about WASTE and corruption and cronyism on ALL levels of government.  This horse I am beating will not get any deader, but within the city of Ottawa, just to get this LRT Phase 1, up and running, is already 1.5 BILLION over budget and over a year past due. And if any of my fellow Canadians have some real short term memory, one of the contractors for Ottawa's LRT is , SNC-Lavalin.  They have been in the news recently, and not for GOOD reasons.

What could the city of Ottawa do with 1.5 BILLION dollars.  Let's break that down some.

Apparently Ottawa is over the 1M mark in population, and that status was reached this summer. So let's go with that and say that each Ottawa resident needs to kick in 1500 bucks to cover that over budget of 1.5 B.  And this is just Phase 1. Guess who gets the contract for Phase 2? :)

 

Government waste is in my view one of the biggest detriments to us as taxpayers.  Hey , it's not MY money that I am spending!! Sky's the limit baby!

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20 hours ago, GostHacked said:

Hang on. You cannot legally hire for less than minimum wage. LEGALLY is the real important word here. If a company is hiring for less than the mandated government minimum wage, then they should be shut down and prosecuted.

Trudeau does not mandate minimum wage laws on the provincial level. Minimum wage is mandated by each province.  If anything Ontario and Alberta seem to have the highest minimum wage rates. There is a nice graphic on this page that shows the minimum wage in each province. I don't think I want to move to the east coast. As nice as that area is (and it's fackin gorgeous out there) , they simply can't pay it out.

https://www.retailcouncil.org/resources/quick-facts/minimum-wage-by-province/

Let's talk about WASTE and corruption and cronyism on ALL levels of government.  This horse I am beating will not get any deader, but within the city of Ottawa, just to get this LRT Phase 1, up and running, is already 1.5 BILLION over budget and over a year past due. And if any of my fellow Canadians have some real short term memory, one of the contractors for Ottawa's LRT is , SNC-Lavalin.  They have been in the news recently, and not for GOOD reasons.

What could the city of Ottawa do with 1.5 BILLION dollars.  Let's break that down some.

Apparently Ottawa is over the 1M mark in population, and that status was reached this summer. So let's go with that and say that each Ottawa resident needs to kick in 1500 bucks to cover that over budget of 1.5 B.  And this is just Phase 1. Guess who gets the contract for Phase 2? :)

 

Government waste is in my view one of the biggest detriments to us as taxpayers.  Hey , it's not MY money that I am spending!! Sky's the limit baby!

1. Hang on. I know that. But where did I say this?

2. The waste and corruption and mismanagement of our tax dollars by all levels of government has been what I would call criminal. Canadians paid four billion for a pipeline that is going nowhere. That is a waste of taxpayer's tax dollars. No doubt in the end the LRT will have cost the taxpayer's of Ottawa and Ontario another 2 billion before the project gets finished. SNC/Lavalin are both liberal outfits and they both will try and rip off the Ontario taxpayer's big time. Liberals are professionals at blowing taxpayer's tax dollars by the hundreds of billions. 

3. The best thing for all Canadians to do who give a shit about Canada is to make sure that Mr. Dressup and feminist Trudeau does not get back in power. If he does there will be no doubt about it that Canada is finished. Another four more years of his pro communist government will have us all free loving patriotic nationalist conservative thinkers thrown in the gulag. Remember that King Trudeau just bought off the media, and they will do and say whatever Trudeau wants them to say or lose their bribery money. This buying off of the press is a true act of bribery. :(

4. Just about all politicians of all levels of government have and show no respect for the taxpayer's tax dollars. They just waste our tax dollars willy-nilly with no accountability to have to face if they blow those tax dollars on useless programs and agendas or projects that will do nothing for Canada or Canadians except to make them even poorer. I believe that Ford doe have the taxpayer's tax dollars in mind. The only thing that will save Canada is conservatism. Sadly, Scheer is not really a conservative. Scheer is just a liberal in conservative clothing. Unfortunately for most conservative Canadians they will have to vote for Scheer or get back Trudeau. I am on Hopium for now in the hopes that Maxine Bernier could end up becoming the PM of Canada. It's a slim chance but hey, you never know, eh? It could happen if all conservatives gave Bernier their vote just like they did in Ontario by voting in conservative Ford. 

 

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3 hours ago, Carbon882 said:

I support Doug Ford because he is active and improving Ontario and he is a psychopathy who will cutthroat his way threw corruption. Mafia style politics help every now and then.

Ford will never get a break with anything that he does for Ontario that is good because the leftist liberal bought off Canadian media will attack him every day of his life with every chance that they can get until the next election where those mentioned above hope to get another Wynne in as the commie dictator of Ontario. Any conservative party in Canada will always get the finger from the leftist liberal bought off Canadian media. The people that work for the Canadian media are nothing more than a bunch of actors and SJW leftist activists who only want to see Canada become more communist rather than see and allow Canada to stay a free country where freedom of speech is top priority. Communists like Wynne hate freedom of speech. Only their leftist speech will be allowed and tolerated. That is why provinces and Canada have Human Rights Commissions. They were created by communists to be able to be used and to be able to bypass real Canadian courts of law where they know that in most cases they cannot win with their human rights abuses against freedom of speech loving people. Canada has become way more communist today than people would ever believe was possible. This present day prime mistake of Canada has become a ruthless dictator who will stop at nothing to take our Canadian rights and freedoms away and replace our rights with no rights.

People like Ford, Kenney,  Bernier and Scheer somewhat are their real enemy. True and real conservatism in Canada must never be allowed to exist. Imagine having a real and true conservative party allowed in Canada that believes in less government, less rules and regulations, less taxes, and more freedom. Today, the people of Canada do not have all those things I just mentioned. They have been getting more of what I mentioned because of having the likes of globalist Blackface as the dictator of Canada who despises Canadians and Canada. :unsure:

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On 7/18/2019 at 7:06 PM, GostHacked said:

Hang on. You cannot legally hire for less than minimum wage. LEGALLY is the real important word here. If a company is hiring for less than the mandated government minimum wage, then they should be shut down and prosecuted.

Unfortunately, not the case. Employers can, under certain conditions, employ TFW's for less than minimum wage:

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers/median-wage/low/requirements.html#h2.5

 

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13 hours ago, jacee said:

Unfortunately, not the case. Employers can, under certain conditions, employ TFW's for less than minimum wage:

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers/median-wage/low/requirements.html#h2.5

 

Your link doesn't point to anything saying below minimum wage.  It says:

"If you are hiring temporary foreign workers and offering them a wage that is below the provincial or territorial median hourly wage, you are subject to a cap on the proportion of temporary foreign workers that you, as an employer, can hire in low-wage positions at a specific work location."

Median hourly wage is not the same as minimum wage.  Elsewhere on your link:

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Wages offered to temporary foreign workers should be similar to wages paid to Canadian and permanent resident employees hired for the same job and work location, and with similar skills and years of experience.

For the purpose of the Temporary Foreign Worker Program, you must pay the prevailing wage which is defined as the highest of either:

  • the median wage on Job Bank
  • the wage that is within the wage range that you are paying your current employees hired for the same job and work location, and with the same skills and years of experience
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15 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Your link doesn't point to anything saying below minimum wage.  It says:

"If you are hiring temporary foreign workers and offering them a wage that is below the provincial or territorial median hourly wage, you are subject to a cap on the proportion of temporary foreign workers that you, as an employer, can hire in low-wage positions at a specific work location."

Median hourly wage is not the same as minimum wage.  Elsewhere on your link:

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Why are we allowing TFW's into Canada anyway? I am pretty sure that those TFW's are paid by a company or farmer to get here at some costs to them or the taxpayer. Then they have to be fed, clothed and housed. All those costs applied to those TFW's could be saved and could go instead towards paying better wages to Canadians who will then work for a decent wage. And who pays for their medical, eye or dental problems? The people that hire them or the taxpayer's of Canada? I am pretty sure that those TFW's do not come to Canada at no cost to the Canadian taxpayer's. The taxpayer pays someway. But most Canadians are to dumb to try and figure this one out. It looks good to them so let's do it without question. 

Just like this bs that Canada needs more immigrants, this TFW's program is just another farce on the rest of the Canadian taxpayer's. There are plenty of unemployed Canadians that should be able to do the jobs that are giving to foreigners. If some on welfare or unemployment do not want to work some of those jobs that TFW' will do, then they should get docked of some of government taxpayer checks. 

The only ones that are not happy or popular with Doug Ford are the liberal/socialists/communists ones who see a conservative biting into their liberal and socialist dreams for Canada, and some of their profits that they have and will make by seeing a conservative like Ford eat into their pet liberal and socialists globalist programs and agendas that have done nothing great for Canada but instead as made Canada a lot poorer today. Canada needs more conservatives in government and not less. More Freedom, less taxes, and less government/rules and regulations is what Canada needs today. Having more of those mentioned will only make Canadians much worse off, except for the ones who are promoting those mentioned above. Ontario had liberal/socialist Wynne as the premier of Ontario for years, and what the hell did Wynne do for Ontario that was making Ontario and the Ontario people feel great? I say nuttin'. 

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Just now, SpankyMcFarland said:

Ford lacks the temperament required for a serious political post. 

Sometimes a real and true politician needs to start pounding their fists on the table and show some temper to try and get things done right for a change. Sitting around and just talking and trying to pretend that our politicians are trying to do something about the mess that they already created has got Canada and Canadians nowhere. Politicians like to talk bull chit but will never do the real walk that is really needed. The only thing that they have become great at is trying to stifle freedom of speech, dream up and apply more new taxes, and create more government/rules and regulations that have stifled progress and jobs and wealth in Canada for Canadians. They all just get together in their chambers of monkey horrors called legislation buildings, and squabble back and forth all day long and nothing ever really ever gets done in the end. The taxpayer's tax dollars that these buffoons waste every day playing their silly ass games  must be astronomical. But then again, does the taxpayer's of Canada really give a crap? By the looks of things, NOPE. :o

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15 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Nor the education.  He went to community college for 2 months and then dropped out.  Rob Ford was also a college drop-out.

I'll still take Doug over Wynne though, that's how bad Wynne was.

Oh, so in your silly opinion, all politicians must have a college or university education to get into politics? A politician does not need any one of those. All a politician really needs is brains, and someone who shows that he cares about his citizen.s, and knows how to do things right, unlike most of the politicians who do have a college or university degree have shown us all that they pretty much lack any brains and appear to be totally clueless as to how to run a country properly. Doug Ford is doing more for Ontario today than any one of his other predecessor politicians like K. Wynne who pretty much wrecked Ontario with her liberal/socialist policies. . Most politicians go into politics to be able to hopefully push their own programs and agendas that most Canadians do not want or will ever ask for. IMHO, most politicians are a brainless bunch of twits. But hey, Canadians admire those types of politicians because they keep voting for them. Incredible. 

Why some people think that one needs a college or university education to succeed in life is beyond me. It must be a class and a proud thing for some people who like to brag about themselves and their education. There are plenty of multi-millionaires and billionaires out there that never have gone to college or university and they are filthy rich. Bill Gates is one of them. Education is over rated. Remember this. Canada was founded and built up by politicians who never had a college or university education and they created a great country called Canada back then. Today of course, the leaders that we have had for so many bloody decades now have pretty much destroyed this once great WASP/European nation. I guess that was their aim for decades now, and they have done a fine job of messing everything up with their college and university education. I could careless if Doug Ford has a grade two education. As long as he works for we the people and cares about them, and not the elite globalists, what the hell more do Canadians want or need.   Aw well, what more can be said, eh?  ;)

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1 hour ago, taxme said:

Oh, so in your silly opinion, all politicians must have a college or university education to get into politics? A politician does not need any one of those. All a politician really needs is brains, and someone who shows that he cares about his citizen.s, and knows how to do things right, unlike most of the politicians who do have a college or university degree have shown us all that they pretty much lack any brains and appear to be totally clueless as to how to run a country properly.

Doug Ford is not the brightest bulb.  You don't need a college/university degree but you can clearly tell that he doesn't have one because he's not very educated on a lot of issues.  One of his policy priorities has been making beer easier and cheaper to drink.  Books > beer.

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22 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Doug Ford is not the brightest bulb.  You don't need a college/university degree but you can clearly tell that he doesn't have one because he's not very educated on a lot of issues.  One of his policy priorities has been making beer easier and cheaper to drink.  Books > beer.

Better to be a not so bright bulb than to be a dead bulb like K. Wynne turned out to be for Ontario. Maybe it is you and your college or university education that says to me that you are not quite clear and educated on most issues either. To be using Doug Fords education as an excuse to attack Ford is disgusting and deplorable. I did not go to college and university, but I can bet that I am a lot more smarter than you are when it comes to politics. I like to use common sense and logic, where it would appear to me as though you like to live on emotionalism and foolish talk, and who enjoys attacking someone who does not have a college or university edumication. Most people that end up with a college or university education end up coming out of those institutions a lot more uneducated and a lot more stupid then when they went in.

Why shouldn't beer be made easier to get and cheaper to buy? That is a lot better than controlling the sales of beer at government high prices like the Wynne government was all in favor of. Wynne was not much for the free enterprise system. Wynne was more of a Marxist dictator then a free thinking enterprise person. Wynne loved her big Marxist spend crazy government. 

I will take beer over books. Most books written today are made for liberals and socialists who like to read about the joys of liberalism and socialism or how Mary survived on her own in the wilderness for seven days fighting off wolves and bears. It might look like great reading but not much else. Most books written in Canada today are books like that one. Books for boring and unexciting people. Just saying. 

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On 6/20/2019 at 4:59 PM, OftenWrong said:

The man was given a majority premiership of the top province in Canada with no political platform, no track record, and no relevant experience. It makes a mockery of democracy.
As far as complaining now goes, Ontarians have exactly the government they voted for and deserve.

Gee. exactly like our dear PM.  Except to that you have to add no brain.

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Doug Ford made a stupid mistake.

You don't cut education, because the teachers will brainwash all their students, and you will get another generation of liberals.

When those students go home, to wine to their parents... They will start telling their friends, and the next thing you know... you got a million new liberal voters.

If he were Smart, he would cut health care, and close some prisons. We don't need to be spending $100000 just to keep 95 year old cancer patients alive.

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