eyeball Posted May 29, 2019 Report Posted May 29, 2019 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: It was meant to be funny...I'm sure Canadians watched Laugh-In too even if they didn't get all the jokes. Its a cheap thrill but some get a hoot out of watching Trump too. What isn't there to get? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 29, 2019 Report Posted May 29, 2019 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Its a cheap thrill but some get a hoot out of watching Trump too. What isn't there to get? In 1968, there was no Google or cable television to help Canada figure some things out. Canada may enjoy the hoot, but it never thought Trump would win in 2016....however, Trump got the last laugh. Fast forward to 2020....now Canada is even more focused on the elephant. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted May 29, 2019 Author Report Posted May 29, 2019 16 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: What about true defense? Kennedy ? I am for the notion of defense, but when was the last time the USA was in a defensive mentality? When has the USA been directly attacked by a foreign military? I don't recall foreign troops doing tours of duty of war in the USA. We see instead, USA troops doing tours of war, in many other places. There is a cost to all that military capability. Which people like Gabbard understand. It seems that the government has no problem providing funds for more war, but when it comes to funding something like 'medicare for all' which all Americans would have health coverage, that's always pushed off. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 29, 2019 Report Posted May 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, GostHacked said: 1. When has the USA been directly attacked by a foreign military? 2. It seems that the government has no problem providing funds for more war, but when it comes to funding something like 'medicare for all' which all Americans would have health coverage, that's always pushed off. 1. I gave the Kennedy example as a real threat, albeit not a direct attack. But ok, we agree that direct threats are used for extreme threats. 2. A problem of democracy is that the masses have poor imagination. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
OftenWrong Posted May 29, 2019 Report Posted May 29, 2019 3 hours ago, GostHacked said: I am for the notion of defense, but when was the last time the USA was in a defensive mentality? Sept. 11 2001 comes to mind. 3 hours ago, GostHacked said: It seems that the government has no problem providing funds for more war, but when it comes to funding something like 'medicare for all' which all Americans would have health coverage, that's always pushed off. Don't forget that 'socialism' is a toxic word in the US. Not 100% toxic but there is a tendency to refrain from creating large-scale government run programs. National defence is a top priority, especially for the number one superpower. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 29, 2019 Author Report Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: Sept. 11 2001 comes to mind. That was a terror attack, not an attack by a foreign nation with their own troops. Big difference. 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: Don't forget that 'socialism' is a toxic word in the US. Not 100% toxic but there is a tendency to refrain from creating large-scale government run programs. Why do food stamps exist? Nothing like socialism for the defense contractors, big to-big-to-fail banks, and corporate hand outs. 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: National defence is a top priority, especially for the number one superpower. What are they defending? If the USA attacks Iran, what are they (The USA) defending? Quote
OftenWrong Posted May 29, 2019 Report Posted May 29, 2019 2 hours ago, GostHacked said: What are they defending? If the USA attacks Iran, what are they (The USA) defending? Iran is not a big problem. Someone else Quote
WestCanMan Posted May 29, 2019 Report Posted May 29, 2019 16 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: In 1968, there was no Google or cable television to help Canada figure some things out. Canada may enjoy the hoot, but it never thought Trump would win in 2016....however, Trump got the last laugh. Fast forward to 2020....now Canada is even more focused on the elephant. TBH I'm more worried about our own election in 2019. Our country is going straight into the toilet if Trudeau wins. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 29, 2019 Report Posted May 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: TBH I'm more worried about our own election in 2019. Our country is going straight into the toilet if Trudeau wins. And that's where Canada's focus should be IMHO, but there are some who are compelled to worry about Donald Trump....again (2020). The CBC is already scheduling crews to spend Canadian tax dollars on coverage of a foreign (U.S.) election, from the first primaries all the way to the general...LIVE ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hal 9000 Posted May 30, 2019 Report Posted May 30, 2019 I think it's fine if Trump wins again, however, if one of those Democrat numbskulls win, it will be hilarious watching the US crumble and the rest of the world take advantage. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
GostHacked Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Posted May 30, 2019 15 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Iran is not a big problem. Someone else That's not an answer to the question I asked. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Posted May 30, 2019 12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: And that's where Canada's focus should be IMHO, but there are some who are compelled to worry about Donald Trump....again (2020). The CBC is already scheduling crews to spend Canadian tax dollars on coverage of a foreign (U.S.) election, from the first primaries all the way to the general...LIVE ! Canada .. off topic. Quote
OftenWrong Posted May 30, 2019 Report Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GostHacked said: That's not an answer to the question I asked. I answered the question. It's geopolitical power at a higher level that matters. There is more at play than an argument over a few boats. Iran has no nukes (yet). Edited May 30, 2019 by OftenWrong Quote
GostHacked Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: I answered the question. It's geopolitical power at a higher level that matters. There is more at play than an argument over a few boats. Iran has no nukes (yet). No my question was what would the USA be defending with attacking Iran? Your reply was : 18 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Iran is not a big problem. Someone else I agree Iran is not a big problem, but that is not what I asked. Quote
OftenWrong Posted May 30, 2019 Report Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, GostHacked said: No my question was what would the USA be defending with attacking Iran? Your reply was : I agree Iran is not a big problem, but that is not what I asked. I thought I did answer. I think it's to maintain their geopolitical interest in the region, versus someone else's. To keep Iran weak or on the defensive. Iran being part of a different "axis" in the ME. All countries are aligned to greater powers... the people with the big nukes. That's what I said. Also sometimes what you see is posturing, sabre-rattling. Necessary to keep primitive dogs at bay. That is the only language they do understand. Yer tree-hugging, feminist, apologizing leftist liberal for a president wouldn't stand a chance. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Posted May 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: I thought I did answer. I think it's to maintain their geopolitical interest in the region, versus someone else's. To keep Iran weak or on the defensive. Iran being part of a different "axis" in the ME. All countries are aligned to greater powers... the people with the big nukes. That's what I said. Also sometimes what you see is posturing, sabre-rattling. Necessary to keep primitive dogs at bay. That is the only language they do understand. Yer tree-hugging, feminist, apologizing leftist liberal for a president wouldn't stand a chance. What interests are you talking about? That term is to vague to mean anything. But we are getting off topic. Quote
WestCanMan Posted May 31, 2019 Report Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 7:00 AM, GostHacked said: No my question was what would the USA be defending with attacking Iran? Your reply was : I agree Iran is not a big problem, but that is not what I asked. Iran isn’t a big problem because they’re not very powerful. They're like a weasel. Weasels kill more than they’ll eat, apparently for fun, but they’re not big enough to be a threat to most animals. Iran with nukes would be like a weasel the size of a tiger. If they had the power that the US had this planet would be down by a few billion people in a very sort period of time. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
GostHacked Posted June 3, 2019 Author Report Posted June 3, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 1:02 PM, WestCanMan said: Iran isn’t a big problem because they’re not very powerful. They're like a weasel. Weasels kill more than they’ll eat, apparently for fun, but they’re not big enough to be a threat to most animals. Iran with nukes would be like a weasel the size of a tiger. If they had the power that the US had this planet would be down by a few billion people in a very sort period of time. Alright, two of you failed to answer the question that I asked. But again, off topic, I want to discuss the candidates we currently have for 2020. Why is it so hard to stay on topic here?? Quote
OftenWrong Posted June 3, 2019 Report Posted June 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Why is it so hard to stay on topic here?? Agreed, back to the topic... I think Kamala Harris has a nice smile. She would probably be a nice person as president. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 3, 2019 Report Posted June 3, 2019 I heard one pundit on MSNBC, and I quote "the democratic field is an embarrassment of riches"....I laughed and laughed! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
GostHacked Posted June 3, 2019 Author Report Posted June 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: I heard one pundit on MSNBC, and I quote "the democratic field is an embarrassment of riches"....I laughed and laughed! That's probably not far from the truth. Quote
WestCanMan Posted June 3, 2019 Report Posted June 3, 2019 4 hours ago, GostHacked said: Alright, two of you failed to answer the question that I asked. But again, off topic, I want to discuss the candidates we currently have for 2020. Why is it so hard to stay on topic here?? What you're supposed to glean from that last answer is that it might be necessary to attack Iran if they get too close to having nuclear weapons. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
GostHacked Posted June 3, 2019 Author Report Posted June 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: What you're supposed to glean from that last answer is that it might be necessary to attack Iran if they get too close to having nuclear weapons. Alright, I get it you, can't explain what those interests are. The thing I do not do, that many here do, is put words into other people's mouths. Either you can explain it, or you can't. Quote
Dougie93 Posted June 3, 2019 Report Posted June 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: What you're supposed to glean from that last answer is that it might be necessary to attack Iran if they get too close to having nuclear weapons. How come? I mean, Pakistan has nukes, North Korea has nukes, those regimes are just as if not more crazy than the Iranians. What specifically do you think it is about the Iranians which makes that regime more suicidal than the Norks and Paks? Quote
WestCanMan Posted June 3, 2019 Report Posted June 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: How come? I mean, Pakistan has nukes, North Korea has nukes, those regimes are just as if not more crazy than the Iranians. What specifically do you think it is about the Iranians which makes that regime more suicidal than the Norks and Paks? Iran is actually quite a bit crazier than Pakistan. The Pakistanis are monsters within their own border, and love to be a training/staging ground for terrorists, but they aren't stupid enough to threaten the US constantly and they stay out of the Israel debate because they were created at the same time and have a track record for crimes against humanity that makes Israel look like darlings. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I said North Korea wasn't being taken seriously. It's to late to do a pre-emptive attack on NoKo. They already crossed that finish line before Trump was in power. Iran, on the other hand, is still in the wannabe stage and has already crossed a serious line with the US when they captured a US Navy vessel and held the sailors hostage (while Obama was twiddling his thumbs). Then they threatened to attack another US ship in the Persian Gulf when Trump was Prez. An aircraft carrier iirc. That's in addition to a multitude of other threats that they constantly make. The Saudis already hate Iran and have been forming a coalition of countries opposed to Iran. It might be possible to goad Iran into making a mistake that gives the US good reason to go in, while other ME nations either help of cheer for them. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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