betsy Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, turningrite said: Read, lady, read! Please! The information is readily available if you look for it. Don't speak on the basis of ignorance and then demand that others prove their claims. Kavanaugh's position, supported by many of those alleged to have been present during the period that Dr. Ford's complaint covers, has been widely reported both inside the U.S. and around the world. Look at he article below in a UK outlet, which succinctly states "Judge Brett Kavanaugh said he does not recall having any memorable interactions with Christine Blasey Ford, a 51-year-old research psychologist and professor who accused him of sexually assaulting her in the 1980s." http://uk.businessinsider.com/kavanaugh-doesnt-remember-christine-ford-supreme-court-2018-9 No. That doesn't say he has "little accurate recollection." He's stating what is a fact (to him). I'm responding to your statement. You said: Quote Had he reacted in a more empathetic fashion, acknowledging that given the passage of almost four decades he has little accurate recollection of the events in question How do you know his statement to the press, that "he does not recall having any memorable interactions with Christine Blasey," isn't accurate? Edited September 28, 2018 by betsy Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, scribblet said: So, an fbi investigation. ..An interesting point here. If the FBI clears Kavanaugh after a week or at least cannot corroborate stories, and Democrat Senators still vote no, they will appear hyper partisan and anti-due process right before the midterms. Is it possible this is a major trap for Democrats. Not so much for the House, where local politics means more than in the Senate. Ford's attorney has already started playing games with timeline and scope. The Democrats have no power, except to keep trying to force a delay....they really don't want a vote at all, preferring that Kavanaugh withdraw his nomination. Continued fun and games will give any GOP holdouts sufficient cover to proceed in support of their caucus. Edited September 28, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Don Jonas Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, betsy said: No. That doesn't say he has "little accurate recollection." He's stating what is a fact (to him). I'm responding to your statement. You said: How do you know his statement to the press, that "he does not recall having any memorable interactions with Christine Blasey," isn't accurate? It's true that he could have been black-out drunk. That would be consistent with his friends' characterization of him. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 Of course they wont like the timeline. It's always been about time. The problem with giving it to the FBI is losing control of the timeline. They asked for an investigation, they were always going to push off any time limit. 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
betsy Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, scribblet said: So, an fbi investigation. ..An interesting point here. If the FBI clears Kavanaugh after a week or at least cannot corroborate stories, and Democrat Senators still vote no, they will appear hyper partisan and anti-due process right before the midterms. Is it possible this is a major trap for Democrats. That's how it looks like. Now, the Dems can't say they didn't get what they asked for. Quote
Don Jonas Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, scribblet said: So, an fbi investigation. ..An interesting point here. If the FBI clears Kavanaugh after a week or at least cannot corroborate stories, and Democrat Senators still vote no, they will appear hyper partisan and anti-due process right before the midterms. Is it possible this is a major trap for Democrats. I assume you believe the GOP was hyper-partisan and anti due process in how they dealt with Garland? Quote
scribblet Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Not so much for the House, where local politics means more than in the Senate. Ford's attorney has already started playing games with timeline and scope. The Democrats have no power, except to keep trying to force a delay....they really don't want a vote at all, preferring that Kavanaugh withdraw his nomination. Continued fun and games will give any GOP holdouts sufficient cover to proceed in support of their caucus. Thanks.. haven't heard that yet about the attorneys, where is it reported... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
scribblet Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, betsy said: That's how it looks like. Now, the Dems can't say they didn't get what they asked for. Right, but the Democrats will try to get it extended. Edited September 28, 2018 by scribblet Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Michael Hardner Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Boges said: Well then his act today would have been pointless then. He's a Lame-Duck Senator. Has nothing to lose. I find it sad and telling that Senators who are not running are expected to be more moral, and it's just accepted. Unbelievable corruption in the system today... and people just accept it. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Shady Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I find it sad and telling that Senators who are not running are expected to be more moral, and it's just accepted. Unbelievable corruption in the system today... and people just accept it. It’s actually the opposite. A senator up for re-election is more apt to act in a way that represents their constituents. Regardless, I’m not sure helping continue a disgusting farce and smear of a persons character is so-called moral. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Truth Detector said: IA senator up for re-election is more apt to act in a way that represents their constituents. "Constitutents" are the people who bribe them millions for their campaign. It's really a sad thing and I'm not happy about it. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Shady Posted September 28, 2018 Report Posted September 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: "Constitutents" are the people who bribe them millions for their campaign. It's really a sad thing and I'm not happy about it. The constituents are the people that vote. Quote
Wilber Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 28 minutes ago, Truth Detector said: The constituents are the people that vote. Only until the election is over, then it is their bankrollers. Money is speech in the US of A, the SCOTUS said so. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 2 hours ago, scribblet said: Thanks.. haven't heard that yet about the attorneys, where is it reported... The Hill has this... https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409041-lawyer-for-kavanaugh-accuser-fbi-probe-should-not-have-artificial-limits Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
scribblet Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The Hill has this... https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409041-lawyer-for-kavanaugh-accuser-fbi-probe-should-not-have-artificial-limits Thanks..they have no say... if they are doing pro Bono why does she need a haf million go fund me Pretty sure Democrats will find a one week FBI investigation, especially if nothing is found, insufficient and new allegations suddenly surface . 1 Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Wilber Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, scribblet said: Thanks..they have no say... if they are doing pro Bono why does she need a haf million go fund me Pretty sure Democrats will find a one week FBI investigation, especially if nothing is found, insufficient and new allegations suddenly surface . I think the FBI will now be calling the shots. If they think something needs further investigation, it would be suicidal for the GOP to say no. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 The FBI will not be conducting a criminal investigation...just a supplemental background check with principal witnesses in the matter. The FBI is in no position to get cute with political partisanship given what has transpired between Trump and (now fired) agents. Background checks involve interviews and documentation...not findings of guilt or innocence. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
ReeferMadness Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 Kavanaugh is credible only to blind partisans and blithering idiots. Much of what he said is provably untrue (he was of legal drinking age) , strains credibility (tens of thousands of dollars worth of credit card debt that was suddenly paid off was due to baseball tickets for friends) or consisted of statements that any 17 year old would instantly recognize as a blatant lie you tell your parents to stay out of trouble (boofing=farting, devil's triangle is a drinking game, yearbook reference to Renate was a gesture of respect). There is zero reason to believe him, over his accusers, regardless of how long ago it was or whatever detail may have faded due to the years. The mere fact that his handlers didn't even bother to come up with believable lies shows how the GOP holds its followers in utter contempt, a contempt that is clearly well deserved. The mere fact that this putz is a judge, much less nominated for the supreme court is proof of how far the US has sunk into moral decrepitude. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
ReeferMadness Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Truth Detector said: Your sociopathic disregard for what this woman has suffered is duly noted. My condolences to any actual humans who find themselves encountering you in real life. 2 Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Michael Hardner Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Truth Detector said: The constituents are the people that vote. That's such an adorable notion. Lawmakers More Likely To Meet With Campaign Donors Than Constituents, New Study Finds https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/campaign-donations-access_n_4941357Study: Politicians Vote Against the Will of Their Constituents 35 Percent of the Time https://promarket.org/study-politicians-vote-will-constituents-35-percent-time/ Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Hal 9000 Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 They were both deceptive in their testimonies. He was covering up just how much they partied back in the day, reason being, if the dems can prove that he drinks to excess, it's a short bridge to believe that he's guilty. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
marcus Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, taxme said: Even her best friend pretty much said that she is not telling the truth here. Which best friend? Where do you get your information? Here is her best friend fully support her friend and emphasizing that Ford is telling the truth: Edited September 29, 2018 by marcus Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Hal 9000 Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) ^I think by "best friend", the reference is to this Leland Keyser person that was supposedly at the alleged gathering where the assault was claimed to have happened. Ms. Keyser has stated that she didn't know Kavanaugh and has never been at any gathering with him. Edited September 29, 2018 by Hal 9000 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted September 29, 2018 Report Posted September 29, 2018 BTW - For all you trying to keep up with the FBI, what they can find and what they'll report - doesn't matter. While the media is discussing the scope of the investigation, the dem's slight of hand has already happened. The dems knew very quickly that they would never prove him guilty of sexual assault, not with Ford's poor evidence. Kavanaugh was never fighting a sexual assault case, he was fighting a case of excessive drinking. If they could prove that he drank to excess, the dems could claim that he did it, but didn't remember. Kavanaugh's only defence is to say as a youngster he never drank to blackout status. And, that's also why they need Mark Judge (an alcoholic) to testify...to show "guilt by association'. They asked continually about passing out and he responded with "he never blacked out". Ford has done her job, she is passe', I guarantee the dems are scouring for evidence or photos of a passed out Kavanaugh for the inevitable perjury charge. 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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