Compensating Khadr

[scribblet]

56 minutes ago, Omni said:

Yet another who knows zilch about how the laws and the courts work. 

And you do of course.   It is a most egregious act on the part of the PM, I agree with Rue, Trudeau should resign.

[capricorn]

A press conference is scheduled for 11:45 this morning where 2 Liberal cabinet ministers will formally apologize to Khadr. No cheque presentation  as the cheque has already been been given to Khadr and cashed. All this done while Trudeau is conveniently absent from Ottawa and unable to deliver the good news to Canadians himself. The wording of the apology should be interesting.

[scribblet]

I hear that the Lib. gov't is panicking, they know this is going to cost them politically - and rightly so, it was slimy to say the least.   Trudeau should resign.

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, capricorn said:

A press conference is scheduled for 11:45 this morning where 2 Liberal cabinet ministers will formally apologize to Khadr. No cheque presentation  as the cheque has already been been given to Khadr and cashed. All this done while Trudeau is conveniently absent from Ottawa and unable to deliver the good news to Canadians himself. The wording of the apology should be interesting.

 

He and Der Fuehrer in a skirt are figuring out how to import MORE Omars as there aren't enough homegrown variety.

[betsy]

Vets and soldiers should be in that press conference - and they should ask questions!

 

I'd like to know why the Khadrs are so important to the Liberals.

[betsy]

19 minutes ago, capricorn said:

A press conference is scheduled for 11:45 this morning where 2 Liberal cabinet ministers will formally apologize to Khadr. No cheque presentation  as the cheque has already been been given to Khadr and cashed. All this done while Trudeau is conveniently absent from Ottawa and unable to deliver the good news to Canadians himself. The wording of the apology should be interesting.

 

No doubt the cash will be hidden now, to prevent any from going into the hands of the victim, and victim's family. The Liberals are complicit in that too, that's why it was so hushed up - until someone leaked what was happening to the media.

 

Of course, it's not only one terrorist who'll benefit from that cash.  The Khadr siblings and matriarch will get a windfall.....and most likely, some of that cash will find its way to some terrorist cells.

 

Edited July 7, 2017 by betsy

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

Vets and soldiers should be in that press conference - and they should ask questions!

 

I'd like to know why the Khadrs are so important to the Liberals.

 

Omar is a fellow Muslim in trouble with the Infidel. 

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32 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Omar is a fellow Muslim in trouble with the Infidel. 

By George - I think you've got it.

[Army Guy]

15 hours ago, Peter F said:

What makes you think Sgt. Speer was acting as the medic that day? Was it the distinctive markings he was wearing? Y'know Red crosses on white background? Was he acting as a medic by laying down covering fire for his compatriots? What makes you think he was most certainly a medic that day.

Sgt Speer, was part of a special forces team, a team that is made up of several men with different specialties, some having multi specialties....Such as communications, sniper, marksmen, explosives, intel, or combat medic.....just to be clear all are armed, including the Combat medic.....yes today medics are allowed to be armed, with side arms or long rifles, they can engage the enemy to protect themselves or any wounded, all without losing there protections claimed by the conventions....

One does not have to be wearing a red cross arm band to be protected under the convention, such as padre or chaplin, medical doctor, etc etc...all one has to be doing is, it is assumed they are protected while carry out their duties, that being said the convention also says a medic can use a wpn to protect himself or his wound in event they are targeted by enemy soldiers....

 Conditions not depriving medical units and establishments of protection

ARTICLE 22

The following conditions shall not be considered as depriving a medical unit or establishment of the protection guaranteed by Article 19 [ Link ] :

(1) That the personnel of the unit or establishment are armed, and that they use the arms in their own defence, or in that of the wounded and sick in their charge.

(2) That in the absence of armed orderlies, the unit or establishment is protected by a picket or by sentries or by an escort.

(3) That small arms and ammunition taken from the wounded and sick and not yet handed to the proper service, are found in the unit or establishment.

(4) That personnel and material of the veterinary service are found in the unit or establishment, without forming an integral part thereof.

(5) That the humanitarian activities of medical units and establishments or of their personnel extend to the care of civilian wounded or sick.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/ART/365-570027?OpenDocument

 

 

 

[GostHacked]

What's a WPN??  You mean weapon? Write weapon then ..  geeze.

[capricorn]

In mulling over the comments made by Goodale at the press conference, one thing sticks out for me. We know that the Supreme Court did not put a dollar figure on the compensation to be paid to Khadr. Goodale stressed that agreeing to the negotiated compensation was done because not doing so could have resulted in the court setting a higher amount, perhaps $20M, the amount claimed by Khadr and his lawyers. Here's my question: how does Goodale know that the court would not have set the compensation at a much lower amount than $10.5M? How does Goodale know the court would have awarded the maximum claimed by the plaintiffs? Or, is it that the government does not have confidence in their lawyers to properly argue the case before the courts.

Bottom line, I would have more respect for the Liberals had they enabled the process of compensation to go forward in court. At least the Liberals could have said "We tried to get the best financial outcome possible." Seems to me most Canadians would have responded well.

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, capricorn said:

The wording of the apology should be interesting.

It suggest it say something about the disgusting reaction coming from conservatives, perhaps ask Islam to note who their real enemies in the West are. I'm quite certain moderate Muslims have figured it out but it still needs to be said. 

[capricorn]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

 perhaps ask Islam to note who their real enemies in the West are.

Spoken like a real Islamist apologist.

[ironstone]

Canada is truly the land of milk and honey isn't it?Apparently it doesn't say much for the vetting process(what vetting process?) for people from that hate-filled part of the world.I keep thinking of the idiotic Liberal phrase,"A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian!".It's all about political correctness,progressive thinking and nothing to do with common sense or right or wrong.

It's truly shameful.

 

[Omni]

20 minutes ago, capricorn said:

Or, is it that the government does not have confidence in their lawyers to properly argue the case before the courts.

Or is it that those lawyers concluded their case was doomed to fail.

[capricorn]

5 minutes ago, Omni said:

Or is it that those lawyers concluded their case was doomed to fail.

If that's the case, why did the government and its lawyers spend $5M in court fees before coming to that conclusion?

[betsy]

29 minutes ago, capricorn said:

In mulling over the comments made by Goodale at the press conference, one thing sticks out for me. We know that the Supreme Court did not put a dollar figure on the compensation to be paid to Khadr. Goodale stressed that agreeing to the negotiated compensation was done because not doing so could have resulted in the court setting a higher amount, perhaps $20M, the amount claimed by Khadr and his lawyers. Here's my question: how does Goodale know that the court would not have set the compensation at a much lower amount than $10.5M? How does Goodale know the court would have awarded the maximum claimed by the plaintiffs? Or, is it that the government does not have confidence in their lawyers to properly argue the case before the courts.

Bottom line, I would have more respect for the Liberals had they enabled the process of compensation to go forward in court. At least the Liberals could have said "We tried to get the best financial outcome possible." Seems to me most Canadians would have responded well.

The Liberals didn't want to disclose how much the reward is - they're hiding the real amount.  We probably paid for Khadr's legal fees, as well.  And maybe, he got his 20 million!

 

Where's the Liberal's so-called transparency now?  

 

Furthermore, the apology says,

 

Quote

"On behalf of the government of Canada, we wish to apologize to Mr. Khadr for any role Canadian officials may have played in relation to his ordeal abroad and any resulting harm," the statement reads.

http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/201256/Official-apology-to-Khadr

 

May have?  I thought Canadian officials did play a role!  Isn't  that's why we're paying?

Edited July 7, 2017 by betsy

[betsy]

From how the government acted to expedite giving the money asap - looks like the Liberals are really complicit to make sure the victim's don't get their hands on Khadr's reward.

Edited July 7, 2017 by betsy

[capricorn]

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

The Liberals didn't want to disclose how much the reward is - they're hiding the real amount.  We probably paid for Khadr's legal fees, as well.  And maybe, he got his 20 million!

According to one reporter, we should find out in the fall the amount of the settlement when the government publishes financial information on claims against the Crown and how much was paid out.

[Omni]

17 minutes ago, capricorn said:

If that's the case, why did the government and its lawyers spend $5M in court fees before coming to that conclusion?

So you're suggesting they should have just written a check for 20 million immediately when the suit was filed.

[Omni]

15 minutes ago, betsy said:

From how the government acted to expedite giving the money asap - looks like the Liberals are really complicit to make sure the victim's don't get their hands on Khadr's reward.

There's no way that was going to happen regardless of when the check was written.

[capricorn]

2 minutes ago, Omni said:

So you're suggesting they should have just written a check for 20 million immediately when the suit was filed.

No, I suggested the government should have taken its chances and gone to court to answer to Khadr's monetary demands.

[Rue]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

What's a WPN??  You mean weapon? Write weapon then ..  geeze.

Yah yah. Idt, idiot.

 

[Rue]

4 minutes ago, capricorn said:

No, I suggested the government should have taken its chances and gone to court to answer to Khadr's monetary demands.

Geez for such an expert on the law you think he would have known that.

[Rue]

6 minutes ago, Omni said:

There's no way that was going to happen regardless of when the check was written.

Het legal expert go find out what the pending injunction was about.