eyeball Posted April 30, 2017 Report Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Wilber said: Doesn't matter, you can't claim a case that never happened as a precedent. It would make one hell of a moral basis for a determined hunger striker to shame Trudeau into intervening on their behalf. I doubt Trudeau would want the death of a conscientious activist for a drug war armistice, aka decriminalization, on his conscience. That said, Trudeau seems oblivious enough at times to imagine the profound ethical dissonance of the spectacle of his own families escaping "justice" while cracking down on other Canadians would escape him. I honestly think Trudeau might be more determined to take a hard line on disobedience and be inclined to underscore that the law is the law is the law - as far as the little people are concerned they either get with the program and remain fused to it or face the completely unforgiving consequences. It's very right-wing as opposed to conservative. Edited April 30, 2017 by eyeball A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 30, 2017 Report Posted April 30, 2017 3 hours ago, eyeball said: I suppose asking that of fellow posters with similar sorts of connections is fair game so...fess up those of you whose Dad conveniently happened to be a PM. The truly powerless get scant sympathy in these pages - so let's continue to ignore them for a while. I hope it's not news to anyone here that you don't need to be PM to try to bend the law a little bit, to attempt to get charges dropped for a son or relation or to fight them in court with the best lawyer you can afford. Many of you would be screaming blue murder if lawyers were randomly assigned to defend criminal cases. JT did not need to tell this story. The predictable response here says more about us than him.
Wilber Posted April 30, 2017 Report Posted April 30, 2017 11 hours ago, eyeball said: It would make one hell of a moral basis for a determined hunger striker to shame Trudeau into intervening on their behalf. I doubt Trudeau would want the death of a conscientious activist for a drug war armistice, aka decriminalization, on his conscience. That said, Trudeau seems oblivious enough at times to imagine the profound ethical dissonance of the spectacle of his own families escaping "justice" while cracking down on other Canadians would escape him. I honestly think Trudeau might be more determined to take a hard line on disobedience and be inclined to underscore that the law is the law is the law - as far as the little people are concerned they either get with the program and remain fused to it or face the completely unforgiving consequences. It's very right-wing as opposed to conservative. As far as the courts are concerned, what never went to court never happened. Whether you agree with a law or not, it is the law until it is changed. You know it is against the law so don't whine if the law bites you when you break it. "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
eyeball Posted April 30, 2017 Report Posted April 30, 2017 Sycophancy is such a nauseating spectacle at times. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Wilber Posted April 30, 2017 Report Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) My problem is the date of legalization. Putting the right to get stoned on the same level as Confederation and Beumont Hamel as a fucking insult to this country. Edited April 30, 2017 by Wilber "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
-TSS- Posted April 30, 2017 Report Posted April 30, 2017 How about John Turner who also was PM only for 2-3 months before losing an election in a crushing defeat? Maybe not, as he was allowed to lead the party to the next election four years later.
PIK Posted May 1, 2017 Report Posted May 1, 2017 Weed will not be legal in trudeau term. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
-TSS- Posted May 1, 2017 Report Posted May 1, 2017 If alcohol was discovered today it would be banned as a dangerous drug.
GritBusters Posted May 2, 2017 Report Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) On 2/15/2017 at 2:08 PM, Omni said: I'd worry more about my home turf. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/02/08/trudeau-trump_n_14646334.html That's not a valid argument. Not living in Canada does not preclude somebody from having valid options about (insofar as somebody daft enough to admire Bush and Cheney is capable of having well-reasoned, reality-based opinions about much of anything) or a personal interest in Canadian affairs. Moreover, it is possible for people to dislike both Justin Trudeau AND Donald Trump for different reasons, a position that you'll often see taken by left-wing critics of the Liberal Party of Canada. For instance, Mexico's equivalent to the Liberal Party, the disgustingly corrupt Institutional Revolutionary Party, has been back in power since 2012. The candidate best positioned to defeat them in 2018 is the National Regeneration Movement's Lopez Obrador, a former head of government in Mexico City and left-wing populist who is also a strident critic of the Trump Administration and of American foreign policy. Edited May 3, 2017 by GritBusters
Omni Posted May 2, 2017 Report Posted May 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, GritBusters said: Not living in Canada does not preclude somebody from having valid options about (insofar as somebody daft enough to admire Bush and Cheney is capable of having well-reasoned, reality-based opinions about much of anything) or a personal interest in Canadian affairs. Very true. Matter of fact we have a poster on here, not living in Canada, who takes a very serious interest in all things Canada. Matter of fact, guess where this thread came from.
capricorn Posted May 11, 2017 Report Posted May 11, 2017 Much has been said about the 14 cardboard cut-outs of PM Justin Trudeau. It turns out those cut-outs will come in handy after all. A Sun journalist has identified some potential uses for them. These are my faves: Quote 4. Bonfire starter for Earth Hour 5. Stand-in for Trudeau when he wants a selfie with himself 10. Stand-in for Trudeau when asked about growing economy from heart outwards 17. Seat holder on Aga Khan’s helicopter 18. Seat holder at Broadway openings 22. Passenger when driving in High Occupancy Vehicle lanes 29. Border guard at unmanned crossings in Manitoba 30. Re-enforcements for Canadian military http://www.torontosun.com/2017/05/10/thirty-uses-for-justin-trudeaus-cardboard-cut-outs I would add "stand-in for Trudeau when asked in the House "how many times have you met with the Ethics Commissioner?" 2 "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
scribblet Posted May 11, 2017 Report Posted May 11, 2017 PM Trudeau told us there are no Canadian values yet Minister Freeland tells us that they were for “re-engaging with the world to champion the values that Canadians hold dear”. Oh dear... 1 Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Boges Posted May 11, 2017 Report Posted May 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, scribblet said: PM Trudeau told us there are no Canadian values yet Minister Freeland tells us that they were for “re-engaging with the world to champion the values that Canadians hold dear”. Oh dear... Only Liberals are allowed to trumpet Canadian values. It's racist if Conservatives do it. 1
Boges Posted May 11, 2017 Report Posted May 11, 2017 I haven't been monitoring this thread closely. Have any JT apologists tried to justify why the Liberals are trying to weaken the powers of Parliament? My God if Harper tried something like this, the CBC would claim a constitutional crisis.
PIK Posted May 11, 2017 Report Posted May 11, 2017 I am living in this flood crisis and his cut out took a helicopter ride and his press conference was sickening. All he talked about was climate change, extreme weather and it is going to happen all the time. Just what people in a crisis wants to hear at this moment from our so called leader. He is now by far the worst leader this country has ever had. Liberals should be ashamed of themselves for still supporting this fool. And ban me if you want, but he is a fool. 1 Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Hydraboss Posted May 11, 2017 Report Posted May 11, 2017 41 minutes ago, PIK said: And ban me if you want, but he is a fool. No worries on the banning issue. It's open season on insults towards Trump and "Fat Kim", so it's likewise fine to call The Idiot....The Idiot. About time. 1 "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
PIK Posted May 12, 2017 Report Posted May 12, 2017 Trudeau IMO has styepped into it. By saying these floods could probably happen every few yrs, he just might have destroyed the values of people homes along the water. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted May 12, 2017 Report Posted May 12, 2017 On 5/11/2017 at 10:03 AM, Boges said: I haven't been monitoring this thread closely. Have any JT apologists tried to justify why the Liberals are trying to weaken the powers of Parliament? My God if Harper tried something like this, the CBC would claim a constitutional crisis. As I have said before all the nasty stuff the CBC and liberal party said about harper is coming true under trudeau. 1 Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 12, 2017 Author Report Posted May 12, 2017 A unhappy Canadian camper put it this way... "We all live in a Liberal submarine...Liberal submarine...Liberal submarine". 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
scribblet Posted May 12, 2017 Report Posted May 12, 2017 1 hour ago, PIK said: Trudeau IMO has styepped into it. By saying these floods could probably happen every few yrs, he just might have destroyed the values of people homes along the water. How much is he helping Alberta cos he's sending billions overseas... this guy will spend us into oblivion, he's the second highest spending PM... (most arrogant too) Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
eyeball Posted May 12, 2017 Report Posted May 12, 2017 2 hours ago, PIK said: Trudeau IMO has styepped into it. By saying these floods could probably happen every few yrs, he just might have destroyed the values of people homes along the water. Won't this also increase the values of peoples homes that are high and dry? A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted May 15, 2017 Report Posted May 15, 2017 On 5/12/2017 at 5:58 PM, eyeball said: Won't this also increase the values of peoples homes that are high and dry? Actually is seem hydro and the government own this one. Nothing to do with CC or extreme weather as trudeau said. The guy needs to go. And who gives a shit to high and dry people. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted May 15, 2017 Report Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, PIK said: Actually is seem hydro and the government own this one. Nothing to do with CC or extreme weather as trudeau said. How so? Quote The guy needs to go. Yep. I was ready to send him packing the second or third day after he was elected myself. For more serious things though like selling weapons to Saudi Arabia's dictators and keeping our own state firmly planted on Canadian's backs. Of course these are the sorts of things that you right wingers usually love to support so the reasons that make you think he needs to go seem really really picayune. Quote And who gives a shit to high and dry people. So when did right-wingers stop giving a shit about people whose wealth is safe and increasing in value? ... Oh...duh....when Trump started campaigning against them of course...walked right into that one didn't I? Edited May 15, 2017 by eyeball A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 On 5/15/2017 at 5:24 PM, eyeball said: How so? Yep. I was ready to send him packing the second or third day after he was elected myself. For more serious things though like selling weapons to Saudi Arabia's dictators and keeping our own state firmly planted on Canadian's backs. Of course these are the sorts of things that you right wingers usually love to support so the reasons that make you think he needs to go seem really really picayune. So when did right-wingers stop giving a shit about people whose wealth is safe and increasing in value? ... Oh...duh....when Trump started campaigning against them of course...walked right into that one didn't I? Too much water came down to fast. 1st we heard hydro could have lowered it 3 feet but did not want to hurt the fish stocks, but that still does not explain what happened. What I heard since is they open a dam and did not know they did till it was too late and lost control of it. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Argus Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Why do I hate this picture? Because it perfectly illustrates what a shallow man Justin Trudeau is. In it, Trudeau is purportedly jogging - alone - in Vancouver, through a group of students. And Trudeau's photographer just happened to be set up in advance to take the picture. And there are no bodyguards jogging with him - except we know there are ALWAYS bodyguards with him. So they would have been ordered to stand back away from him so the photographer could get the shot of him passing through the group of students. They would NOT have been happy about such an order, so Trudeau would obviously have had to overrule their objections. So this is a staged shot, agreed on in advance between Trudeau and his photographer and his aides. I doubt the students were told what the plan was. They were simply convenient props in the Trudeau propaganda department's ongoing stream of 'Gosh what a great regular guy Trudeau is!" that we keep getting subjected to. Now I don't blame the publicity guys. They're always wanting to do stuff like this in every government. It's just that most leaders rarely ever go along with it since they'be busy and not narcissistic publicity whores. With Trudeau, it's like this sort of thing is his JOB. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/05/20/jogging-justin-trudeau-photobombs-vancouver-prom-students.html "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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