Arrest (in Edmonton) leads to renewed criticism of refugee policy

[blueblood]

6 hours ago, hernanday said:

No, the media reported he was syrian and refugee, the media doesn't report when the criminal is white their national origin.

That's because it's assumed the murderer is white given that whites are a majority of the population and also the pictures they release make those statements redundant.

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, betsy said:

Who did those massive sex assaults on New Year's eve in Europe?

Earthlings.

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, blueblood said:

That's because it's assumed the murderer is white given that whites are a majority of the population and also the pictures they release make those statements redundant.

I'm just glad to know the murderer didn't have eye-stalks and tentacles.

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm just glad to know the murderer didn't have eye-stalks and tentacles.

I have to admit that my first thought too. 

[betsy]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Earthlings.

 

Dog? Elephant?  Worm? Alligator? Camel?

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

Folks stay on topic please.

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, betsy said:

 

Dog? Elephant?  Worm? Alligator? Camel?

 

 

Human is close enough for me.

[Rue]

 Interesting Hern picks up these racist  undertones. Did he notice the racist undertones of picking a Somali Refugee Immigration Minister? Appears he did not. Did H notice in the last two weeks Canada now is faced with a sudden phenomena of mostly Somalis crossing the Canadian border from Manitoba and Quebec? Does he mention because the Immigration Minister is a Somali refugee and the people now coming  to Canada are mostly all Somali refugees,  I am racist for pointing that connection and the fact that the coyotes are now going to exploit that to bring Somalis in the US to the Canadian border saying this Minister will never deport them? Does H think this is not happening? Tell me has H noticed the luggage the so called refugees are bringing not to mention they come to the US border in TAXIS?

 No not H. If I told him racism, so called racist stereotyping doesn't just work white on black but Somalis thinking they now have favoured status over others coming to Canada would he call that racism? Of course not.

It is an unwritten rule an aboriginal Canadian mp is not given the Indian Affairs Ministry because of the double standard that would be expected of them an impossible and unfair one but Trudeau had no problem exploiting a Somali refugee as Immigration Minister. Put him in another cabinest position hell no. Now did Trudeau  not think placing  a Somali refugee in the Immigration Ministry would trigger an influx of Somalis?   He has set this man up for failure. If he's too harsh on immigration policy and illegal Somalis or any illegal s- this man will be  called a sell out if he is not lenient  and right now he appears quite silent as Somalis break all the rules and push ahead in the lines. What is it racist to point out there may be a conflict of interest or certainly the appearance of one?

Atta boy Justin in your zeal to exploit and tokenize minorities you have told the world they can flood Canada with illegals. His symbolism by placing a refugee as the Immigration Minister  was crass and racist as it gets. ,,not to mention Trudeau's previous comments about Canada welcoming people to show how morally superior he is to Trump has  triggered this latest fiasco of illegals.

As for not being able to point out who someone is who commits a crime because H believes its racist to do that let him prove it. Prove its racist. Just saying its racist means what. Using that immediate conclusion without any proof is an exercise in racist stereotyping as well against the media. 

The issue Hern does not discuss is whether Canadians of all ethnicities, origins have the right to know as much info about a criminal as the media can find or should it be censored if they are non white  because then according to H its racist to do that. Hell no discussion from H as to whether the info is relevant or not-nope he just assumes its not. It can't be. The moment someone is not white, we are supposed to stop asking questions..

If someone commits a crime and is white and is a refugee or black or brown and is a refugee that refugee status being reported probably has nothing to do with their skin colour. The assumption its reported because someone hates dark skin is bull. If anything if its unfair it impacts on all refugees white or brown unfairly not just non white refugees. Zip over H's head.

If a refugee has a history of crime that he continues to commit once he's in Canada and repeats the crime, of course its relevant.

Under the UN refugee definition Canada can deport refugees who commit serious crimes. Canada never does though. We now take in rapist pedophiles fleeing Muslim nations as refugees on the grounds that they will be given capital punishment if they are returned. The refugee status was expanded to include criminals fleeing jurisdictions where the criminal sentence they were handed out does not exist in Canada.

Zip over H's head as well.

You bet I want to know if the refuge had a history of being a peophile, a rapist, a  criminal before he came to Canada.Its got nothing to do with his skin colour and everything to do with whether our government is properly vetting refugees. We all have the right to know that including fellow refuges who may have been raped or victimized by these people.

I want to know who these Somalis are coming in and whether they are coming in with money from illegal drug trade, from war lords who are sending their families with stolen money from illegal activities.  That doesn't make me racist.

Edited February 19, 2017 by Rue

[-TSS-]

Does Canada recognize dual-citizenship?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, -TSS- said:

Does Canada recognize dual-citizenship?

It did for me. 

[?Impact]

7 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

Does Canada recognize dual-citizenship?

Canada allows you to take foreign citizenship without relinquishing your Canadian citizenship, and does not force you to renounce foreign citizenship when becoming a Canadian. Subtle, but important distinction.

[Rue]

You want to accuse the press of racism do more than simply suggest reporting that a criminal is a refugee is automatically "racist". If you claim the editorial decision for describing the criminal as a refugee is anti refugee prove it. Prove it by arguing its not relevant. This intellectually lazy and dishonest use of the word racist to suggest its not just anti refugee but done because the refugee was not white is bull sheeyat. Its an unsubstantiated allegation.

The term racist is thrown out without any substance. Its used to shut down and avoid having to go further and provide an explanation for the allegation. The word is thrown out and no one is supposed to ask for proof the editors or writer hate blacks or Arabs let alone refugees? Its so damn lazy and ignorant it can't even get the term right. If the use of refugee description is unfair, its anti refugee. Refugees are not a category of race.

 

[-TSS-]

The problem with deportations is that some countries don't accept their own citizens back, which is utterly shameful for those countries but it happens nevertheless.

Another obvious problem is that since the ones who you want to deport have deliberately lost their documents and they refuse to state where they are coming from then you don't know where to deport them to.

[taxme]

On 2/11/2017 at 5:33 PM, jbg said:

Arrest leads to renewed criticism of refugee policy.

Here is a snippet of the article:

This reminds me of a similar incident in Austria, Iraqi refugee who raped a boy in Germany has conviction overturned. Snippet from article:

Maybe both of these migrants just can't control themselves at a swimming pool. I don't know. But it seems that immigration policy should be driven by the needs of the receiving country and not just being "big-hearted."

Reports on The Rebel by Faith Goldy tells of incidents where young Syrian boys are beating up on Canadian girls in a Halifax school. It is obvious that these boys are being led to believe that it is ok to beat up girls in Canada by their parents. Trudeau has made a big error here by wanting to bring too Canada 50,000 Syrian and other refugees from other countries. Hey trudeau, which females will be next, eh? Personally, I don't think that you really could give a dam. Pathetic. 

[taxme]

12 hours ago, ?Impact said:

Canada allows you to take foreign citizenship without relinquishing your Canadian citizenship, and does not force you to renounce foreign citizenship when becoming a Canadian. Subtle, but important distinction.

This needs to stop. No one needs to have dual citizenship in Canada. This farce has been allowing new immigrants to come to Canada, and after they are here, and get their citizenship they go back to their country from whence they came and go to work there. Most Canadians are so clueless as to how the rest of the world thinks, and makes fools and suckers of them. Bloody amazing indeed. 

[taxme]

On 2/11/2017 at 7:21 PM, OftenWrong said:

Yes, you nailed it exactly. Being "Big Hearted" and at the same time, dumb brained. How can anyone expect that you just drop in some guy who's practically a complete savage compared to our culture, and have him go to a beach or swimming pool. Or people just out for a nice evening stroll, in Germany.

Thanks to these naive leftist policies on immigration, we are in danger. Grave danger.

The fake main scream media in Canada refuses to tell Canadians as to how many women in Sweden are being raped every year by Syrian refugees. Sweden has become the highest rape country in the world. Their police and politicians tell the women that they should not go out alone at night by themselves. So, Swedish women have to hide and lock themselves away in their homes at night, and all the police and the politicians seem to want to do about the rapes is sweet nothing. Pretty much saying to the women that it is your fault you got raped. They know the problem but they just keep on bringing them in. And where are the men? They should be out there protecting their women. They hide also it would appear. Thanks to puzzy liberalism and socialism and multiculturalism it would appear as though they have turned men into wimps and cowards. Men today are fast becoming to feminine and are acting more like a bunch of women. Indeed we are in grave danger but do the leftist politically correct politicians really care? Me thinks not.  

[taxme]

8 hours ago, -TSS- said:

The problem with deportations is that some countries don't accept their own citizens back, which is utterly shameful for those countries but it happens nevertheless.

Another obvious problem is that since the ones who you want to deport have deliberately lost their documents and they refuse to state where they are coming from then you don't know where to deport them to.

Good point. I guess that all Canada can do now is to send customs officers to every country on earth where they can stop those illegals in their tracks from getting over here. I think that it would be a lot cheaper then allowing the illegals to get over here and then start sucking off the system taxpayer's which has been costing the taxpayer's of Canada hundreds of millions to baby sit just about all of them for life. A make work project for Canadians. Works for me. 

[OftenWrong]

6 hours ago, taxme said:

The fake main scream media in Canada refuses to tell Canadians as to how many women in Sweden are being raped every year by Syrian refugees. Sweden has become the highest rape country in the world. Their police and politicians tell the women that they should not go out alone at night by themselves. So, Swedish women have to hide and lock themselves away in their homes at night, and all the police and the politicians seem to want to do about the rapes is sweet nothing. Pretty much saying to the women that it is your fault you got raped. They know the problem but they just keep on bringing them in. And where are the men? They should be out there protecting their women. They hide also it would appear. Thanks to puzzy liberalism and socialism and multiculturalism it would appear as though they have turned men into wimps and cowards. Men today are fast becoming to feminine and are acting more like a bunch of women. Indeed we are in grave danger but do the leftist politically correct politicians really care? Me thinks not.  

No they don't care, they have been emasculated by leftist social policies. It begins at a young age. The child is "protected" from ideas that are contrary to the leftist agenda. Things like healthy competition, the idea that one person can be better than others at something. Let alone the idea that one culture is superior to another by reason of its core values. But in leftism all things are considered equal. The result is a person who is completely fragile. It doesn't take much to frighten them if they encounter a problem. Rather than fight back, they run away.

[Michael Hardner]

7 hours ago, taxme said:

The fake main scream media in Canada refuses to tell Canadians as to how many women in Sweden are being raped every year by Syrian refugees.  

Can we have a cite for this ?

I have noticed a pattern whereby people make up stories, then claim that the media is lying by not reporting the fake stories.  So if you are posting in good faith, I expect you to provide a source for your claims here.

[?Impact]

7 hours ago, taxme said:

The fake main scream media in Canada refuses to tell Canadians as to how many women in Sweden are being raped every year by Syrian refugees.

The fake Presidential alternative facts (ie. lying) administration makes up shyte, and the lemmings believe this 'fake media' crap. After the obvious lie from Trump the other night, Sweden responded with the real fact that crime has been essentially flat for the past decade. They called the bullshyter out. The Swedish media took it one stop further and are lampooning him with all the mundane traffic problems and other significant 'criminal' activity that occurred when Trump claimed otherwise.

[bush_cheney2004]

Sweden's high incidence of sexual assault has been news long before President Trump ran for office.

If it is fake news, then it is old fake news:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

[?Impact]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Sweden's high incidence of sexual assault has been news long before President Trump ran for office.

Yes, that is a good article and worth reading. It explains why the statistics are higher in Sweden than other jurisdictions, and yes have absolutely nothing to do with recent immigrants/refugees.

[betsy]

42 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Can we have a cite for this ?

I have noticed a pattern whereby people make up stories, then claim that the media is lying by not reporting the fake stories.  So if you are posting in good faith, I expect you to provide a source for your claims here.

 

 

 

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Sweden 'covering up' migrant rape and violent crime for the sake of 'humanitarianism'

OFFICIALS in the Swedish government have been accused of "covering up" migrant rape and refugee violence for the sake of appearing politically correct.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/768980/Sweden-cover-up-migrant-rape-violent-crime

 

 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, ?Impact said:

Yes, that is a good article and worth reading. It explains why the statistics are higher in Sweden than other jurisdictions, and yes have absolutely nothing to do with recent immigrants/refugees.

 

Also has nothing to do with President Trump.    Canada's chronic problems with sexual assault, discrimination, murders of FN women, etc. are "statistics" that existed long before Trump arrived in the oval office.    Even when perps are arrested in Canada, they are quickly returned to the streets to save money, victims be damned.

[?Impact]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Also has nothing to do with President Trump.

Nor does it have to do with this topic, perhaps you and taxme need to take this conversion offline.