bush_cheney2004 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 More EC electors defected from Hillary Clinton than they did for Donald Trump. One women in Madison, Wisconsin put on a great show for the cameras as the electors cast votes for Trump, then meekly asked the police if she could get her coat and purse before getting ejected. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bryan Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: More EC electors defected from Hillary Clinton than they did for Donald Trump. The celebrities all trying to tell the electoral college that they have the right to change their vote probably should have been more specific. Quote
Omni Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 4 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: They shouldn't have hoped or believed in such a silly notion to begin with. The five stages of grief pass slowly for some. Reality doesn't care. That's right, I guess we should all have known that Americans would get sucked into the vortex of nonsense. I just wonder what happens down the road when all those rust belt workers are still out of work. Quote
JamesHackerMP Posted December 20, 2016 Author Report Posted December 20, 2016 Oh, bugger....oh well the glorious (bloodless) coup didn't happen. It was a nice dream, though wasn't it? Quote "We're not above nature, Mr Hacker, we're part of it. Men are animals, too!" "I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons!" [Yes, Minister]
?Impact Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, JamesHackerMP said: Oh, bugger....oh well the glorious (bloodless) coup didn't happen. It was a nice dream, though wasn't it? My 6/49 lotto ticket didn't pay off either. Quote
Omni Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 I imagine the residents of Fifth Avenue will be "overjoyed" Quote
sharkman Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: More EC electors defected from Hillary Clinton than they did for Donald Trump. One women in Madison, Wisconsin put on a great show for the cameras as the electors cast votes for Trump, then meekly asked the police if she could get her coat and purse before getting ejected. All of those simple minded people duped by the Dem braintrust which knew there was absolutely no chance of anything other than Trump being voted in. So sad. Quote
August1991 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 12 hours ago, JamesHackerMP said: As most of you are no doubt aware, the United States does not directly elect its president; 538 presidential electors do. The electors are normally bound by their pledges, but not all states levy penalties for, or debar the electors from, voting outside one's pledge... Quote
August1991 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 As most of you are no doubt aware, the United States does not directly elect its president; 538 presidential electors do. The electors are normally bound by their pledges, but not all states levy penalties for, or debar the electors from, voting outside one's pledge... ===== Once again, Leftists in the US believe that they are correct; but everyone else iswrong. In their wisdom, the guys who wrote the US Constitution decided that no president should merely have many votes; the votes should also come from a broad geographic base. In Canada, we have something similar: no federal party can get elected without the support of Quebec. Quote
?Impact Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 2 hours ago, August1991 said: In Canada, we have something similar: no federal party can get elected without the support of Quebec. Not true, Harper didn't have the support of Quebec. In fact federal representation by Quebec is almost perfectly in line with population. It is provinces like prince edward island that have a significant advantage federally, about 4 times that of Quebec per capita. Canada has never elected a ruling government with fewer votes than another party, while the US has elected a president with fewer votes than his opponent on 5 occasions. This time was the largest number of votes (2.9 million) that the competition than ever before, that is 2.9 million completely disenfranchised citizens. In fact there were 25 previous presidents who had won with fewer than that advantage, and now it turned into a loss. The bias always seems to tilt in favour of the Republicans, except for once when it was a 'Democrat-Republican'. It seems the system is strong biased against the Democrats. Quote
Bryan Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 2 hours ago, ?Impact said: Canada has never elected a ruling government with fewer votes than another party, Wilfred Laurier, William Lyon mackenzie King, Joe Clark, and John Diefenbaker each won the seat count while losing the popular vote. 2 hours ago, ?Impact said: This time was the largest number of votes (2.9 million) that the competition than ever before, that is 2.9 million completely disenfranchised citizens. You've got that backwards. The electoral college did its job to prevent one state (California) from disenfranchising the entire rest of the country. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 Hollywood "elite" Martin Sheen makes a big mistake in his efforts to change one EC vote: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/19/martin-sheen-begs-electoral-college-member-mr-mcmillan-to-dump-trump-theres-just-one-problem/ Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
betsy Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 20 hours ago, JamesHackerMP said: As most of you are no doubt aware, the United States does not directly elect its president; 538 presidential electors do. The electors are normally bound by their pledges, but not all states levy penalties for, or debar the electors from, voting outside one's pledge. One TX elector had already announced he's not voting for Trump but a "moderate republican". A Democratic elector from Washington (state of, not the federal capital) announced she too would vote for a moderate Republican instead of Hillary Clinton. (The House of Representatives elects the president from the top 3 returns in the electoral college, should the latter deadlock--not have 270 votes for one of the candidates--so she's actually wise to do that when you think about it, since the House is in Republican hands and they'd never pick Hillary, but might pick a different Republican...who knows?) We shall see. By the end of the day, Trump's now-realized presidential ambitions could be unrealized. It would require 36 Trump electors (from those states where they could do it and get away with it) to defect and vote for someone else. It's a pretty slim chance that would happen. But even if a handful of them decided to defect, it would be not only unprecedented, but it would draw a lot of attention to the fact that Americans are pretty uneasy about the Russian influence in our election. (It might even be remembered long enough to start impeachment charges, should the scandal get a little deeper....but that too is probably a long shot.) Then again, stranger things have happened in American politics before. No way will he be "unpresidented!" Quote Donald Trump Surpasses 270 Votes in Electoral College to Formally Win Presidency The Texas results put the official tally at 301 electoral votes for Trump, 163 for Hillary Clinton and six for others http://fox40.com/2016/12/19/donald-trump-surpasses-270-votes-in-electoral-college-to-formally-win-presidency/ Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 The result was never really in doubt. Now we'll see what happens. Is he the thin-skinned reactionary we see ? Is he a strategic genius who plays his persona while disarming his enemies ? No choice but to stay tuned. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
betsy Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: The result was never really in doubt. Now we'll see what happens. Is he the thin-skinned reactionary we see ? Is he a strategic genius who plays his persona while disarming his enemies ? No choice but to stay tuned. He might become the most media-covered president in US history. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 Just now, betsy said: He might become the most media-covered president in US history. The result is not in doubt on that one. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
betsy Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: The result was never really in doubt. Now we'll see what happens. Is he the thin-skinned reactionary we see ? Is he a strategic genius who plays his persona while disarming his enemies ? No choice but to stay tuned. So far, foreign leaders seemed to have snapped up to attention. Even Merkel is sending her top aide this week to see Trump.....and he isn't even been sworn yet! They're taking him seriously. There's also his issue with Taiwan and China. Looks like he'll try to put China in her place. Our business executives are reacting. They had a business analyst on a Canadian news station (CBC?), and he's saying that Canadian business execs had stated that they will be investing in the USA! That's investments lost to us. Investors seems to have confidence in him - Canadian investors! That's a boon for the USA! Quote Canadian executives confident about Donald Trump presidency Michael Cooper, president of real estate developer Dream Unlimited Corp., believes his company’s operations in Western Canada will benefit from Mr. Trump’s policies for the energy sector, but wishes his company had more U.S.-based exposure. “I wish we had a lot more in the States right now. I do feel some of the decisions we made did not reflect the U.S. doing as well as it’s doing,” he said. “We should have had more exposure there. Who knew?” Mr. Cooper said he is not a big fan of many of Mr. Trump’s views, but is confident he will create a positive business climate that could leave Canada at a competitive disadvantage. “He’s putting together a team of people and it looks like he’s going to empower them to radically change the regulatory environment to be much more focused on business being able to create jobs and make money, so it’s going to be a massive change for the U.S. economy,” he said. “And I think Canada is going to have to take it seriously because we’re going the complete opposite way.” http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/canadian-business-executives-confident-about-donald-trumppresidency/article33359868/ He's already getting positive results....... and he isn't even officially president yet. Edited December 20, 2016 by betsy Quote
BubberMiley Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 2 hours ago, betsy said: Looks like he'll try to put China in her place. I thought the U.S. was heavily indebted to China. What would China's place proper place be in that situation? Trump would probably have insight into how being heavily indebted puts you in a position not of power but of vulnerability. Looks like his debtor, Mr. Putin, is going to put the U,S, in its place. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
betsy Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: I thought the U.S. was heavily indebted to China. What would China's place proper place be in that situation? Trump would probably have insight into how being heavily indebted puts you in a position not of power but of vulnerability. Looks like his debtor, Mr. Putin, is going to put the U,S, in its place. Why would Trump keep making provocative remarks to China if he has no game plan? Quote Trump tells China: Go ahead, keep that U.S. military drone you seized President-elect Donald Trump says the Chinese government should be told “we don't want the drone they stole back” and “let them keep it!” http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-china-drone-trump-20161218-story.html ....and China's the one walking on eggshells, it seems: Quote China Sidesteps Trump Twitter Storm But Media Slams 'Reckless Remarks' http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-sidesteps-trump-twitter-storm-media-slams-reckless-remarks-n691931 Edited December 20, 2016 by betsy Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 Red China....the old China is crammed onto Taiwan. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 Everyone understands that the electoral college representatives are picked by their reapective party, right? There was no chance of a defection. Quote
sharkman Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Smallc said: Everyone understands that the electoral college representatives are picked by their reapective party, right? There was no chance of a defection. Everybody except the Dems. Quote
sharkman Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: The result was never really in doubt. Now we'll see what happens. Is he the thin-skinned reactionary we see ? Is he a strategic genius who plays his persona while disarming his enemies ? No choice but to stay tuned. So far the only thin skinned reactionaries are in the MSM, bitching about Trump not being legit. He's too legit to quit! Quote
BubberMiley Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, betsy said: Why would Trump keep making provocative remarks to China if he has no game plan? Because he doesn't know any better. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
DogOnPorch Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Because he doesn't know any better. Perhaps he read a history book about Communist China. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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