Russians accused of interfering in election to get Trump elected

[Smallc]

25 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

Maybe you would be more informed if you watched Fox, they followed the right polls and knew what was going on.

The right polls?

 

thr only poll that had trump winning was off by a mile.  The polls were right for the overall vote - the razor thin margins in the states just broke down in a different way.

[Hal 9000]

2 minutes ago, Smallc said:

The right polls?

 

thr only poll that had trump winning was off by a mile.  The polls were right for the overall vote - the razor thin margins in the states just broke down in a different way.

You guys are actually defending the media that lied and tried manipulating you for the last 18 months.  It's like you people suffer from "beaten wife syndrome".

[Omni]

4 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

You guys are actually defending the media that lied and tried manipulating you for the last 18 months.  It's like you people suffer from "beaten wife syndrome".

Not sure what you "suffer from" but go ahead and try and prove any of what you just said.

[Hal 9000]

1 minute ago, Omni said:

It's also something I have kept a sort of straw pole on is how when the righties arguments fail, as they so often do, they just drag up an insult to fill in the blanks. 

WTF are you talking about.

 

[Omni]

4 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

WTF are you talking about.

 

I'm talking about "beaten wife syndrome"

 

[Smallc]

41 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

You guys are actually defending the media that lied and tried manipulating you for the last 18 months.  It's like you people suffer from "beaten wife syndrome".

No one lied to me.  I need multiple sources for a story before I believe it.

[Hal 9000]

22 minutes ago, Omni said:

I'm talking about "beaten wife syndrome"

 

The mainstream media has treated the viewing public like stooges, they have lied and cheated continuously, they misquoted and misrepresented Trump and his supporters, they shamelessly assisted the democrats, they beat down Trump supporters on air every chance they had (CNN always had a 7/2 ratio, MSNBC was at best 3/1) and they rode non-stories as if they were somehow significant...and it didn't work (at least not how they intended).  And, in a shocking act of defiance, they are pressing forward with the same plan.  

The fact they have any credibility with people, let alone some actually defending their actions is staggering. 

[Hal 9000]

6 minutes ago, Smallc said:

No one lied to me.  I need multiple sources for a story before I believe it.

But they clearly did lie to you!

 

[Omni]

24 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

The mainstream media has treated the viewing public like stooges, they have lied and cheated continuously, they misquoted and misrepresented Trump and his supporters, they shamelessly assisted the democrats, they beat down Trump supporters on air every chance they had (CNN always had a 7/2 ratio, MSNBC was at best 3/1) and they rode non-stories as if they were somehow significant...and it didn't work (at least not how they intended).  And, in a shocking act of defiance, they are pressing forward with the same plan.  

The fact they have any credibility with people, let alone some actually defending their actions is staggering. 

Nobody lied to me. All I had to do was listen to Trump at the debates and his campaign speeches to see what he was.

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, Omni said:

Nobody lied to me. All I had to do was listen to Trump at the debates and his campaign speeches to see what he was.

Like you ever did...

[Hal 9000]

Of course, and that's what a beaten wife would say.

4 minutes ago, Omni said:

Nobody lied to me. All I had to do was listen to Trump at the debates and his campaign speeches to see what he was.

 

[Omni]

Just now, Hal 9000 said:

Of course, and that's what a beaten wife would say.

 

Perhaps you aren't aware of all the lies trump told.

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

Of course, and that's what a beaten wife would say.

 

 

You hit 'er pretty hard there, Rick.

[Omni]

10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Like you ever did...

Maybe you missed it all. Sounds like it.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Omni said:

Maybe you missed it all. Sounds like it.

 

Worked on Trump Campaign as volunteer. What did you do for Hillary to get her (not) installed as the Queen?

[Omni]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

Worked on Trump Campaign as volunteer. What did you do for Hillary to get her (not) installed as the Queen?

Umm, as a Canadian we weren't allowed to vote. Can you believe that?

[Michael Hardner]

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Donald Trump is 'ready to accept Russia hacking report if FBI and CIA can agree,' says Reince Priebus
 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4046222/Donald-Trump-ready-accept-Russia-hacking-report-FBI-CIA-agree-says-Reince-Priebus-says-doesn-t-think-hacks-swayed-election.html

Looks like the forces of reason have got to the president-elect again.  Maybe once he's elected his insecurity will abate and he will see fit to do an investigation.  The idea that Russia elected Trump is preposterous to me, but I would be open to hearing what the intelligence agencies *think* happened, once they see fit to make an official announcement of their findings.

[kactus]

4 hours ago, Omni said:

Umm, as a Canadian we weren't allowed to vote. Can you believe that?

He is a canadian too...Allegedly...

[Hal 9000]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4046222/Donald-Trump-ready-accept-Russia-hacking-report-FBI-CIA-agree-says-Reince-Priebus-says-doesn-t-think-hacks-swayed-election.html

Looks like the forces of reason have got to the president-elect again.  Maybe once he's elected his insecurity will abate and he will see fit to do an investigation.  The idea that Russia elected Trump is preposterous to me, but I would be open to hearing what the intelligence agencies *think* happened, once they see fit to make an official announcement of their findings.

I think we can all agree that everybody is trying to hack everybody else, the question that nobody can answer is; did they actually get anything, if so, what? And, was it the Russians that released the info?  So far, it seems that the idea is; The Russians were hacking, therefore they must have gotten the DNC emails and released them and they must be working with Trump because the RNC was also hacked and no emails were released.  There are huge leaps to make here, especially when the apparent leaks from the DNC were from a different source than the Podesta emails (which most professionals believe was an inside leak). 

It doesn't help that Clapper said there is no link and the intelligence agencies that were so quick to leak what they were investigating suddenly clammed up at the thought of actually bringing their info to the oversight committee.

[?Impact]

5 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

and they must be working with Trump because the RNC was also hacked and no emails were released.

Not sure where you got that part of the story. Having a preference does not require collusion. Sure some people may want to imply a collusion, but that is a small minority.

[Hal 9000]

3 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Not sure where you got that part of the story. Having a preference does not require collusion. Sure some people may want to imply a collusion, but that is a small minority.

Well, that is part of some pundit's story, one could say working on Trumps behalf then - it that makes a difference to you.  

It's quite possible that both were hacked (or hack hack attempts) and the hackers released nothing, but the DNC had a leak.  Let's not forget that some DNC people were fired and at least one died tragically.  Why is it so easy to believe that the Russians did all this for Trump, yet the most obvious idea, that it was a good old fashioned "leak", is dismissed outright?

[GostHacked]

22 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

Well, that is part of some pundit's story, one could say working on Trumps behalf then - it that makes a difference to you.  

It's quite possible that both were hacked (or hack hack attempts) and the hackers released nothing, but the DNC had a leak.  Let's not forget that some DNC people were fired and at least one died tragically.  Why is it so easy to believe that the Russians did all this for Trump, yet the most obvious idea, that it was a good old fashioned "leak", is dismissed outright?

Might as well blame others for their own shortcomings. They won't hold themselves accountable and won't admit to mistakes they made.

[DogOnPorch]

7 hours ago, Omni said:

Umm, as a Canadian we weren't allowed to vote. Can you believe that?

The wife is American. Can you believe that?

[?Impact]

1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said:

Why is it so easy to believe that the Russians did all this for Trump

Who said that? The Russians may prefer Trump to Clinton for whatever reasons, but saying they are doing it for Trump is a big stretch. Perhaps, just like the CIA, they are more interested in creating unrest and Trump certainly does that.

[Topaz]

Its been reported, that even if Russian was involved, there no connection to the voting machines ,not many connected to the net and it was the PEOPLE who voted Trump in. Having said that, if those against, can change the out come, legally or other wise, the country could have a civic war on its hands and  the US is lucky the terrorist don't have an Air Force because while they are fighting among themselves they could attack,not that I would want that but the politicians better THINK more about their country and not what THEY want.