Russians accused of interfering in election to get Trump elected

[BubberMiley]

9 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

It will be a long 8 years for you, hating Trump.

That's pretty far-fetched. I doubt we'll have to even spend a full four years hating Trump.

[Argus]

10 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

It will be a long 8 years for you, hating Trump.

I don't hate him. I disapprove of him, the way I would any ignorant, narcissistic bully who doesn't personally affect me. I do worry about what his spiteful temper might do in terms of international relations, though. And while his promise to turn the spending taps wide open and cut taxes are good for my stocks in the short term, particularly my US banking stocks, in the long run the US is going to the way of Greece if that isn't reigned in.

[DogOnPorch]

55 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

That's pretty far-fetched. I doubt we'll have to even spend a full four years hating Trump.

 

Sure thing, Hillary...errr...Bubber.

[DogOnPorch]

46 minutes ago, Argus said:

I don't hate him. I disapprove of him, the way I would any ignorant, narcissistic bully who doesn't personally affect me. I do worry about what his spiteful temper might do in terms of international relations, though. And while his promise to turn the spending taps wide open and cut taxes are good for my stocks in the short term, particularly my US banking stocks, in the long run the US is going to the way of Greece if that isn't reigned in.

 

Smash Islam...my motive. But will he?

 

Doubt it...but he's one of the first to call the pile of brown material known as Islam S--T.

[cybercoma]

14 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Smash Islam...my motive. But will he?

Supporting a fascist president in the hopes that he'll annihilate a religion and how proud you are of your Nazism.

[DogOnPorch]

16 minutes ago, cybercoma said:

Supporting a fascist president in the hopes that he'll annihilate a religion and how proud you are of your Nazism.

 

Islam = Nazi...I'm against religious fascism...you support it.

[BubberMiley]

7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Islam = Nazi...I'm against religious fascism...you support it.

But you're very much in support of political fascism?

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

But you're very much in support of political fascism?

Oskar Schindler was a nice Nazi.

Should Nazism be judged by Oskar Schindler?

Islam = Theological Fascism.

YOU can support it...but you won't be my friend. I aim to do what I can to put a bright light on this savage, barbaric ideology/religion/cult.

You can reach for the zipper...

[bush_cheney2004]

Fascism is great...just ask previous U.S. presidents like Lincoln or FDR. 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Fascism is great...just ask previous U.S. presidents like Lincoln or FDR. 

In the ol' video game, Civilization, the Wonder one can build after discovering Fascism is Mount Rushmore...

[Omni]

2 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

That's pretty far-fetched. I doubt we'll have to even spend a full four years hating Trump.

I suspect you are right. While he was rather conciliatory during his final speech on his "thank you" tour in Mobil, but I think most of us expect he will soon return to his buffoonery and bombast. Apparently he also confirmed his idiotic plan to build the wall during the same speech.

[Argus]

3 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Smash Islam...my motive. But will he?

 

Doubt it...but he's one of the first to call the pile of brown material known as Islam S--T.

Yeah, but he did it deliberately, to enhance his popularity. He figured it would be popular and he was right. That doesn't mean he actually believes in any of it.

[Rue]

On 12/19/2016 at 5:51 PM, taxme said:

It's over. Trump is now the President of the USA. The liberals/democrats need to get over their loss, and stop whining and crying and trying to get Trump from becoming President. In four years time they can go for it again. But by then, I think that Trump will have shown the people that he is a true leader. 

Agreed. 

[Rue]

37 minutes ago, Argus said:

Yeah, but he did it deliberately, to enhance his popularity. He figured it would be popular and he was right. That doesn't mean he actually believes in any of it.

Agreed. Hard to know what his real agenda is.

Bafoons don't surround themselves with the people he has. If he was as tyrannical as people say he wouldn't have hired the people he did.

I think like Reagan he's going to delegate most stuff away and concentrate on pet projects.

What they will be who knows. As for his wall, it was already being built and will continue to be built no different than during the Obama regime.

If I am a betting man I say he de-regulates things Obama regulated and the big change will be a coming economic war with China. He himself would be a disaster but he has too many generals behind him to let him go crazy and he has Mr. Exxon now his State Dept. guru who unlike Kerry is not a talker-he's a back door oil deal man who from what I hear doesn't get bullied but runs his own show and whose entire method of operation is the oil money bribe. Back to Reagan days where oil consortiums dictated US foreign policy/

I get the idea he is actually a lazy showman and not really interested in running things as much as posing and looking grand. Puff and huff but no substance.

If I am Iran or China I am a bit anxious. If I am Putin I am laughing at anticipated oil money coming in for the mob.

If I am Canada and Trudeau I would be anxious about future trade. I think we are in for some very protectionist US policies that hurt both Mexico and Canada and cause friction with Europe.

I think Liberals are going to be disappointed when he doesn't blow up the world. Rude, ignorant, for sure. Crazy, probably not.

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2016 by Rue

[Wilber]

I was watching Autoline on PBS the other day. It is a panel show on the auto industry. Their guest was from Continental and is the NAFTA guy for the parts industry. He says it is more complicated than just NAFTA and includes all its members trade agreements. He said Mexico has agreements with more countries than the US which makes it easier to export from Mexico than it does from the US. The same could apply to Canada, particularly with the new EU agreement.

[taxme]

22 hours ago, Omni said:

I get a pretty good idea of what he thinks by what he says. How do you estimate peoples thoughts I wonder? Or are you just happy with any nutbar?

And I suppose that you never have had to wash your mouth out with soap, now have you, eh?  I go by what a person does, not what they say. We all have said something funny or stupid at least one time in our life. If Trump can make America great again, then who cares what he said or who he insulted or offended. They need to suck it up, buttercup. 

What is that old saying? "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me".   

[taxme]

On 12/19/2016 at 9:01 AM, Argus said:

Yet according to a study the viewers of FOX are the most ignorant people in America when questioned about current events, worse even than those who watch no news.

I must assume that it was a liberal study. People listening to CNN or MSNBC appear to be the most ignorant. They are fed liberal lying crap and eat it up like candy. 

[taxme]

16 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

It will be a long 8 years for you, hating Trump.

It will be a long 8 great years for Trump to make America great again.  

[betsy]

On 12/19/2016 at 5:51 PM, taxme said:

It's over. Trump is now the President of the USA. The liberals/democrats need to get over their loss, and stop whining and crying and trying to get Trump from becoming President.

I created a topic yesterday - but it seemed to have disappeared. It's this:

 

Just when you thought they'd finally gotten over it - here comes Bill Clinton, whining in a Book Store!

 

Quote

Bill Clinton bashes Trump, blames 'angry white men' and Comey for wife's loss

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/19/bill-clinton-bashes-trump-blames-angry-white-men-and-comey-for-wifes-loss.html

 

Boy.....by the looks of it, we'd most likely keep hearing these whiners for the next 8 years.

Edited December 21, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

2 hours ago, Rue said:

If I am a betting man I say he de-regulates things Obama regulated and the big change will be a coming economic war with China.

I bet he already had something planned ......even before he ran for office.  He already had ideas.

 

I'm betting he'll re-negotiate the US debt with China.  He'll maintain a positive relationship with Russia since they (USA and Russia)  are fighting the same enemy (ISIS).

[Argus]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

I must assume that it was a liberal study. People listening to CNN or MSNBC appear to be the most ignorant. They are fed liberal lying crap and eat it up like candy. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

[Omni]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

And I suppose that you never have had to wash your mouth out with soap, now have you, eh?  I go by what a person does, not what they say. We all have said something funny or stupid at least one time in our life. If Trump can make America great again, then who cares what he said or who he insulted or offended. They need to suck it up, buttercup. 

What is that old saying? "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me".   

Trump hasn't done anything yet, so all we have to go on is what he says. And if he does what he says, he ain't gonna make America anything but a joke.

[Omni]

39 minutes ago, betsy said:

I bet he already had something planned ......even before he ran for office.  He already had ideas.

 

I'm betting he'll re-negotiate the US debt with China.  He'll maintain a positive relationship with Russia since they (USA and Russia)  are fighting the same enemy (ISIS).

Russia is not fighting ISIS anywhere near as much as they are fighting to keep Assad in power. And of course Trump has to kiss Putin's arse because he helped get him elected after all.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Omni said:

Russia is not fighting ISIS anywhere near as much as they are fighting to keep Assad in power.

 

At least Putin did not recall all strike fighters from the campaign, like Justin Trudeau.   Trump probably appreciates that.

[Omni]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

At least Putin did not recall all strike fighters from the campaign, like Justin Trudeau.   Trump probably appreciates that.

Trudeau probably doesn't like Putin (and therefore Assad) nearly as much as Trump does so he got out of the swamp.