bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Bryan said: They exist in the marketplace, but local media is what dominates. With a few subsidized or mandated exceptions, local cable & broadcast channels would not survive on local media alone. Local newsrooms are often loss leaders. Local media does not dominate motion pictures or business news, entertainment news, or female demographic talk shows/soaps. Edited December 6, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: With a few subsidized or mandated exceptions, local cable & broadcast channels would not survive on local media alone. Local newsrooms are often loss leaders. Local media does not dominate motion pictures or business news, entertainment news, or female demographic talk shows/soaps. You said News channels, then you said American TV networks, then you said print media. Now this. Why don't you stop moving the goal posts? Local news IS the news. The local newspapers, the local news radio station, the local network affiliate's news department. Here in Winnipeg, if you want to know what's happening, you look for the Sun, The Free Press, CJOB, CBC, Global, etc. You don't go searching out the New York Times, USA Today, or CNN or NPR. CJOB (news talk radio) in particular is the top of the ratings charts and the highest earning station on the prairies. There are several similar stations across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Bryan said: You said News channels, then you said American TV networks, then you said print media. Now this. Why don't you stop moving the goal posts? Because the goal posts are moving....traditional channels and media outlets are changing. Local print is dying. Local television is less hard news and more content. YouTube is not based in Winnipeg, neither is Twitter. American shows do penetrate daytime programming (The Talk, The View, The Chew, Dr. Phil, soap operas ). Fake news is easier to distribute because nearly anyone can do it, and Canada uses the "channels" that are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 The news content being consumed on any of those platforms is still predominantly from local sources. People are still checking their local news station's page. not the one for USA Today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 But yes, if you want to claim fake news as being an American phenomenon, I'll give you that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 hours ago, Bryan said: The news content being consumed on any of those platforms is still predominantly from local sources. People are still checking their local news station's page. not the one for USA Today. I don't know anyone who checks USA Today in my U.S. city either. But they do check Facebook...which is also not based in Winnipeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 hours ago, Bryan said: But yes, if you want to claim fake news as being an American phenomenon, I'll give you that one. American media have very broad First Amendment rights, without hate speech laws or other regulatory prohibitions seen in Canada. After peeking at CKND (Global) Winnipeg's weekday schedule listing for today (12/6), lots of American programming is offered early morning, daytime, and in prime time. It is unclear to me how the CRTC would handle "fake news" from such American programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 US content (commercials) are regularly replaced with CBC/CTV etc commercials. Nothing like sitting down to the Simpsons on Fox and watch Shaw f--- it up with the editing-in of Canadian ads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I don't know anyone who checks USA Today in my U.S. city either. But they do check Facebook...which is also not based in Winnipeg. The pages Winnipeggers check for news are predominantly based in Winnipeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 21 hours ago, Bryan said: The fake news that Canadian lefties watch is CBC. Do you have any examples at all of fake news on CBC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 19 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Oh, I see...sarcasm is a new concept in Canada ? Sorry for "misleading" you. Sarcasm? You mean trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 On 12/5/2016 at 3:51 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: A distinction without a difference. Fake ass CBC news is OK when it comes to Israel ? If it works down south, why not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 hours ago, cybercoma said: Sarcasm? You mean trolling. Nah, there's not of that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I don't care about fake news. I just want to spend time celebrating the birth of the son of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 On 12/6/2016 at 11:49 AM, cybercoma said: Sarcasm? You mean trolling. Hey, be careful, you are challenging the expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 All this fake news nonsense is all about going after and trying to get rid of the Alternative media, and nothing more. If one supports Hillary, and the websites that support and promote her than what they say or report is not fake news. If a website is supporting and promoting Trump, than what they say and report is just fake news. At least that is the way I see things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 It's about mocking fake news. That's the best way to get rid of it. It's more fun doing it that way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 This is how Snopes.com prosecuted fake news about Trump tweeting that Canadians are "Snow Mexicans": http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-called-canadians-snow-mexicans/ Snopes.com propagated the fake news but labeled it as "FAKE". This way they can use the click bait and refute the story at the same time. Win-win. I found it interesting that some Canadians found the fake tweet to be very derisive, as if being compared to Mexicans is a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 On 12/14/2016 at 11:25 PM, taxme said: All this fake news nonsense is all about going after and trying to get rid of the Alternative media, and nothing more. If one supports Hillary, and the websites that support and promote her than what they say or report is not fake news. If a website is supporting and promoting Trump, than what they say and report is just fake news. At least that is the way I see things. And so you think this kind of shyte shouldn't be challenged? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hillary-clinton-fake-news-conspiracy-theory-child-sex-ring-edgar-maddison-welch-open-fire-comet-ping-a7456021.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Fake news: It's all a lot of fun until someone loses a country. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/26/pakistan-minister-issues-nuclear-warning-israel-tricked-fake/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 OTOH a reaction like this might just be the smack upside the head the human race needs if it's ever going to smarten up. The path to enlightenment is always painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 We have been talking about Universities limiting speech and censorship. Here's another institution that is trying to lock down dissent: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/12/29/2111207/republicans-propose-bill-to-impose-fines-for-live-streaming-from-house-floor Quote Likely in response to the 25-hour sit-in staged by Democrats earlier in 2016, protesting the lack of gun reform, House Speaker Paul Ryan has proposed new fines and ethics violations for House members that take photo and video from the floor of the chamber It's from a Blog but supported by Bloomberg here: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-24/ryan-proposes-fines-ethics-moves-on-grandstanding-house-members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 So is "fake news" just a new name for propaganda? Let's just call it ..LIES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 On 12/5/2016 at 11:32 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Except for Quebec, U.S. based content remains the prime time draw for revenue, complete with simsub. A large percentage of "U.S. based content" is filmed in Canada. All we have to do is put up a few flags and blue postboxes and you American's lap it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, ?Impact said: A large percentage of "U.S. based content" is filmed in Canada. All we have to do is put up a few flags and blue postboxes and you American's lap it up. A large percentage of U.S. based content is filmed around the world....and in outer space too. It is still financed with U.S. dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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