Demonstrations against Trump

Hal 9000 · November 12, 2016

This might be the first night I watch SNL in 10 years.

The_Squid · November 12, 2016

54 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Look, you're just going to have to put on your big boy pants and accept the reality of Trump's win. Repeating wild eyed lies to excuse violence is silly.

I totally accept that he's president! And I look forward to an entertaining run!

Where did I excuse violence? I said it's not surprising given Trump's violent rhetoric and his violent campaign rallies that there was violent pushback.

sharkman · November 12, 2016

48 minutes ago, Wilber said:

I don't know what election you were watching. Trump is going to have a hell of a time trying to stuff the hatred he injected and exploited during this campaign back into the bottle. I doubt it is possible.

What hatred are you speaking of? Hatred to Mexicans? There was none, his ire was directed at Mexican law breakers. Perhaps you could list some of this hate?

The_Squid · November 12, 2016

2 minutes ago, sharkman said:

What hatred are you speaking of? Hatred to Mexicans? There was none, his ire was directed at Mexican law breakers. Perhaps you could list some of this hate?

The examples are endless! Lol

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...an erratic candidate who campaigned as a bully and a bigot, who demonstrated a weak understanding of crucial policy matters, who set a record for false statements, who encouraged violence, who was caught bragging about committing sexual assault, who hid key information about his life from the public, and who was called by members of his own party a con artist, a racist, and a danger to the nation, won the votes (if not the hearts and minds) of tens of millions of Americans and the keys to the White House.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/hate-trumps-history-reality-tv-star-wins-white-house-broken-america

sharkman · November 12, 2016

13 minutes ago, The_Squid said:

The examples are endless! Lol

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/hate-trumps-history-reality-tv-star-wins-white-house-broken-america

Perhaps you should read my post a few more times until the meaning sinks in. All you provided was someone's opinion piece. I asked a simple question. What specific actions or words of Trump were hateful. What did he actually say that was bigoted? Use actual Trump quotes, not someone's memory or opinion.

Edited November 12, 2016 by sharkman

The_Squid · November 12, 2016

9 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Perhaps you should read my post a few more times until the meaning sinks in. All you provided was someone's opinion piece. I asked a simple question. What specific actions or words of Trump were hateful. What did he actually say that was bigoted? Use actual Trump quotes, not someone's memory or opinion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

here you go...

The_Squid · November 12, 2016

What do you think about Trump not renting to black people and having to pay fines for it?

sharkman · November 12, 2016

9 minutes ago, The_Squid said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

here you go...

If all you are going to do is google and provide links, never mind. Perhaps wilber will answer my question.

I will concur that not renting to blacks back in the early 70's was bigoted, but I'm wondering what words and deeds show Trump is bigoted and "spouting hatred" today. The criticism of the muslim parents was not bigoted. It was stupid and bumbling, as many of his attempts at off the cuff comments were. Like his criticism of Mexican illegals crossing the border, saying that Mexico is not sending their best, they are sending criminals.

Of course, Mexico the government is not sending anybody, so the phrase was poorly worded. But the general idea that Mexican illegals coming over have a much higher percentage of a criminal element is essentially true. And it's not bigoted nor racist to point this out. It's an inconvenient truth, so of course the left misquotes him and then calls him racist for it when it is not.

The_Squid · November 12, 2016

Read the article..... there are 13 examples for you.

Smallc · November 12, 2016

Essentially true? Is it true, or is it not?

eyeball · November 12, 2016

1 hour ago, sharkman said:

What hatred are you speaking of? Hatred to Mexicans? There was none, his ire was directed at Mexican law breakers. Perhaps you could list some of this hate?

Here you go.

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taxme · November 13, 2016

On 11/10/2016 at 0:26 PM, Boges said:

For sure. Don't blame those who voted for Trump. He actually received less votes than previous Republicans. The blame goes squarely at the Democrats for allowing an extraordinary unpopular candidate to face Trump. It's impressive he got as many votes as he did with no support from senior members of the party.

It wasn't good enough to plead with people to take the lesser of two evils. Or hold their nose, a proper alternative to Trump wasn't given.

I am glad that there was no alternative to Trump although they tried very hard to do so with a bunch of recycled politically correct politicians who's only aim was for money and power and glory. The people liked and wanted Trump because he told them what they wanted to hear, and that was that the system was corrupt and rigged against them. Of cousre hundreds of thousands of Americans already knew this but it took Trump to come along, and finally convinced them that he was the man for the presidency. The establishment have lost, and now they are all in full panic mode. Aw gee whiz.

taxme · November 13, 2016

5 hours ago, sharkman said:

If all you are going to do is google and provide links, never mind. Perhaps wilber will answer my question.

I will concur that not renting to blacks back in the early 70's was bigoted, but I'm wondering what words and deeds show Trump is bigoted and "spouting hatred" today. The criticism of the muslim parents was not bigoted. It was stupid and bumbling, as many of his attempts at off the cuff comments were. Like his criticism of Mexican illegals crossing the border, saying that Mexico is not sending their best, they are sending criminals.

Of course, Mexico the government is not sending anybody, so the phrase was poorly worded. But the general idea that Mexican illegals coming over have a much higher percentage of a criminal element is essentially true. And it's not bigoted nor racist to point this out. It's an inconvenient truth, so of course the left misquotes him and then calls him racist for it when it is not.

Apparently, it did not hurt him from saying all those things and now he is the President of the USA. I guess that most of the American people agreed with what he said. The Americans who voted for Trump blame the Democrat liberals for their immigration mess, and the many crimes that were committed by those Mexican illegals, and them not having put a wall up decades ago to keep the Mexican cartels and illegals out. Some horrendous crimes committed against Americans by illegals over the years was always hushed up by the liberal fake elite media and politicians so as not keep the Americans informed of what was going on. The alternative media did just that. We are lucky to have the alternative media around, and not just have to rely on the media and politicians for the truth.

OftenWrong · November 13, 2016

20 minutes ago, taxme said:

I am glad that there was no alternative to Trump although they tried very hard to do so with a bunch of recycled politically correct politicians who's only aim was for money and power and glory. The people liked and wanted Trump because he told them what they wanted to hear, and that was that the system was corrupt and rigged against them. Of cousre hundreds of thousands of Americans already knew this but it took Trump to come along, and finally convinced them that he was the man for the presidency. The establishment have lost, and now they are all in full panic mode. Aw gee whiz.

While I too was pleased, it was mainly because the American public chose the politically incorrect candidate over the one who was corrupt. It was a difficult choice, and the corrupt candidate was the "safe" option, practically guaranteeing 4 more years of status quo. They could have accepted criminality as the norm, which the media was trying to justify but they went for the chancer,

However, and here's the "however"... I'm old enough to know by now that one should be careful what you wish for. Just like when Obama got elected and his followers went ape, believing the messiah has come and some time after the disillusionment process kicked in. Same goes for those intoxicated by "Trudeau mania".

In other words, "The King is dead. God save the King." or, "Meet the new boss...the same as the old boss".

Edited November 13, 2016 by OftenWrong

taxme · November 13, 2016

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Here you go.

Of course the corporate elite media would never try to keep Americans informed of all the black on white crimes that have been committed over the years, now have they? If it were not for the alternative media, no one would ever hear about those crimes. All we would get from the mainstream fake corporate media would be pictures like those above because only white people can be racists, right? There have been Jews and blacks who have called for white people to be killed off. So, just where was the media reporting on these unbelievable events? I guess to busy looking for some white person saying something racist. Then they go into ballistic mode. Let's go get that white racist scum.

taxme · November 13, 2016

11 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

While I too was pleased, it was mainly because the American public chose the politically incorrect candidate over the one who was corrupt. It was a difficult choice, and the corrupt candidate was the "safe" option, practically guaranteeing 4 more years of status quo. They could have accepted criminality as the norm, which the media was trying to justify but they went for the chancer,

However, and here's the "however"... I'm old enough to know by now that one should be careful what you wish for. Just like when Obama got elected and his followers went ape, believing the messiah has come and some time after the disillusionment process kicked in. Same goes for those intoxicated by "Trudeau mania".

In other words, "The King is dead. God save the King." or, "Meet the new boss...the same as the old boss".

This new boss will not be the same as the old bosses that pretty much ruined the world and everybody in it. The American people were wishing for a guy like Trump to come along, and he did. I feel now that the world has a better chance of getting rid of the banksters and their crimes committed for centuries against humanity where they pretty much tried to destroy everything normal, moral and decent. Donald Trump may not be an angel, but then who here can say that they have been an angel all their life. Even I will admit that I have not always been angelic like. I don't think that the people who voted for Trump are ever going to have any regrets about doing so. I believe that we have a chance of now trying to make this world a better place to live in, and Trump will do this for all the world. If he back fires on what he said he would do, then I would say, off with his head. We must all give the man a chance. I mean can he be any worse than the rest of the Presidents before him? The nice thing about all of this is that the bankster globalist elites are in panic mode now, and that has to be a good thing for all of us. Hillary the puppet was on their payroll, and if she had become President, it's WW3 time.

Argus · November 13, 2016

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

While I too was pleased, it was mainly because the American public chose the politically incorrect candidate over the one who was corrupt.

I am fairly certain Trump will set new standards for corruption. He will be the president everyone remembers whenever they think of corruption, lies, incompetence and blatant cronyism, nepotism and using government powers for self-enrichment for centuries to come. Everything about his history says he will lie, cheat, defraud others, and do everything possible to make himself richer.

OftenWrong · November 13, 2016

Just now, Argus said:

I am fairly certain Trump will set new standards for corruption. He will be the president everyone remembers whenever they think of corruption, lies, incompetence and blatant cronyism, nepotism and using government powers for self-enrichment for centuries to come. Everything about his history says he will lie, cheat, defraud others, and do everything possible to make himself richer.

In that case, same as a Clinton presidency. In other words, a member of the corrupt, power mongering elite. It's the status quo. As Donald Trump would say, what have you got to lose?

Wilber · November 13, 2016

You mean the Clintons who make their tax returns public?

OftenWrong · November 13, 2016

52 minutes ago, taxme said:

This new boss will not be the same as the old bosses that pretty much ruined the world and everybody in it. The American people were wishing for a guy like Trump to come along, and he did. I feel now that the world has a better chance of getting rid of the banksters and their crimes committed for centuries against humanity where they pretty much tried to destroy everything normal, moral and decent.

The "banksters", etc. have always been in charge, going back centuries. The elite are so deeply entrenched in all societies, all over the world that if ordinary people knew about the real extent of corruption it would probably break their hearts. No one is likely going to change this, and maybe it even shouldn't be changed. It is in fact the very foundation of civilization. Corruption is not in "them", it is in us, and is probably a foundational principle. Anyone who comes along and threatens the system as a whole is very likely doomed. Somebody like a Napoleon comes to mind. If they do somehow get far enough, then you have WWIII for sure. People must make a choice between whether they would tolerate moderate amounts of corruption that provides relative peace and stability, or pursue an abstract concept like "purity", total equality, and the tremendous violence it calls for to achieve it.

Topaz · November 13, 2016

Oftenwrong, I agree with u and when corruption goes toooo far and starts killing its leader and gets away with it, the country is in a whole lot of trouble, especially when its people don't want to believe someone within government is that corrupt. Today, IF the president-elect is taken out the finger is pointing to certain people this time.

OftenWrong · November 13, 2016

2 hours ago, Wilber said:

You mean the Clintons who make their tax returns public?

No, I mean the Clintons who accepted cash from Saudi Arabia, where a woman is worth less than a goat, and then tell people into a microphone how they will protect the rights of little girls everywhere. The Clintons who admit they have a public voice and a private voice, who branded vast numbers of voters as a 'basket of deplorables', somehow thinking that will help them get the win, and who accepted debate questions leaked to them before the debate, rather than contacting the authorities. Imagine how well she would have done had she reported that instead, by showing the public her honesty. That would have been one hell of a stunt! Instead, she chose to take the dope.

I mean the Clintons who thought they could fool all the people all the time.

That's why those demonstrators are out there now, utterly dumbfounded, seeking some place to focus their empty rage. They will not heal until they face the fact that the Clintons failed them, and in doing so, failed America.

bush_cheney2004 · November 13, 2016

Fox News: Why are the protesters (rioters) doing so in cities/states that voted for Clinton ? Are they afraid to riot in Kentucky or Idaho?

Edited November 13, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

DogOnPorch · November 13, 2016

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Fox News: Why are the protesters (rioters) doing so in cities/states that voted for Clinton ? Are they afraid to riot in Kentucky or Texas ?

I mentioned that to my wife...not impressed she was.

Wilber · November 13, 2016

9 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

No, I mean the Clintons who accepted cash from Saudi Arabia, where a woman is worth less than a goat, and then tell people into a microphone how they will protect the rights of little girls everywhere. The Clintons who admit they have a public voice and a private voice, who branded vast numbers of voters as a 'basket of deplorables',

Which you know about because it was disclosed. You don't think all politicians don't have public and private voices? You don't think Trump has a public and private voice? You don't have a public and private voice if a situation requires it? Ya right.

The basket of deplorables statement was just dumb but it was certainly no worse than things Trump said about many people and groups during this campaign.

I predict the American people will never see a Trump tax return or any other disclosure he is not required to make by law.