marcus Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 It may not be such a bad thing. Maybe this will shake up the system. I agree with Slavoj Zizek who says he would opt for the Republican as the apparently less dangerous choice in the US election. I'm also loving watching CNN fumbling around. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Altai Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 Who cares ? Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Guest Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 I imagine quite a few people care. I don't have their names, so I can't answer your question fully. Anyone help here? Quote
Guest Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 6 hours ago, marcus said: It may not be such a bad thing. Maybe this will shake up the system. I agree with Slavoj Zizek who says he would opt for the Republican as the apparently less dangerous choice in the US election. I'm also loving watching CNN fumbling around. It was fun watching them search for ways Hillary could still win. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It was fun watching them search for ways Hillary could still win. John King was so desperate that I actually felt sorry for him. He stood by his big monitor all night looking for hidden pockets of Hillary votes right up until Hillary conceded. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
?Impact Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Republicans are now 100% responsible for the future, and will have nobody to blame. Edited November 9, 2016 by ?Impact Quote
Argus Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) The Donald is not going to be the president, really. That will be Pence. President Pence will chair all the important meetings, will be giving day to day directions to senior staff, and will be reading the reports. King Donald will be playing golf, making out with models in the oval office, and giving general, broad directions. "Hey, Pence, have you built that wall yet?" "Working on it, sir." "Lemmie know when that's done so I can do a photo op. Oh yeah, what about that NAFTA stuff?" "Holding meetings on it all this week, sir." "Good boy. Hey, call up Air Force One for me. I feel like golfing in Florida." "Yes, sir." Edited November 9, 2016 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
?Impact Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 I don't think Donald can keep his fingers out of the cookie dough. I agree with you that Pence will be more active than previous VPs, but at some point he will step out of line and Donald is not very forgiving. Quote
The_Squid Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 Look for more Russian aggression in the Baltics... Trump will weaken NATO and not stand with their allies. Quote
overthere Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 2 hours ago, The_Squid said: Look for more Russian aggression in the Baltics... Trump will weaken NATO and not stand with their allies. Agreed. The Donald took his cues on this from Justin Trudeau. After the terror attacks on Paris, the French President begged his allies to help destroy ISIS. The response of our newly elected PM-his first act as PM- was to promise to withdraw our aircraft from the region. He set the new standard for not standing with our allies. Once again, Canada is a world leader. Ironically, until then, it was France that had always been the global leader in the manufacture and deployment of white flags on the battlefield. The French, US and other air support for non-NATO ground troops in Iraq/Syria is proving decisive. ISIL has lost all subsequent battles, their logistics are severely degraded, and they are basically in full retreat- since that push from France that happened while Canada walked away.. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Smallc Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, overthere said: Agreed. The Donald took his cues on this from Justin Trudeau. After the terror attacks on Paris, the French President begged his allies to help destroy ISIS. The response of our newly elected PM-his first act as PM- was to promise to withdraw our aircraft from the region. Yes, that is exactly the order things happened in. I disagreed with the decision to remove the aircraft. I don't have to revise history to disagree. 5 minutes ago, overthere said: The French, US and other air support for non-NATO ground troops in Iraq/Syria is proving decisive. ISIL has lost all subsequent battles, their logistics are severely degraded, and they are basically in full retreat- since that push from France that happened while Canada walked away.. Canada's training forces and ISR aircraft (and those of others) have also proved decisive. Quote
taxme Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 Finally the game is over. America has a new President and things should be a lot better for America now that Trump is President. World war 3 is not put on hold. There will be better relations between Russia and America. But what is most important is that the globalists elite zionists corporate warmongers have been given pretty much the boot. They now hopefully will have to act a little more human for a change and get with the new program. Hillary and Billy, or as others have called them Bonnie and Clyde, won't be seeing the White House anymore. Poor old bill is probably sad because there won't be any more fun at the White House with new interns anymore. I can only say and believe that the world will be a safer place to live in as we do not have a warmonger politician in the White House but a business man who knows how to run a business and will run America in the same way. Trump will create more jobs and new businesses because he will get government off the peoples backs by him saying that a lot of regulations will be gone. So many regulations that make it very hard to try and start up a new business. The people must come first, not politicians or special interest groups who have their own interests in mind and whom always tried very hard to make it difficult for the average joe and mary taxpayer to get anywhere. Miracles do exist, thank gawd. Go, Trump, go. Quote
overthere Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 Yes, all those warm blankies really turned the tide. and the advice from the Canadian advisors to the Kurds: "go kill ISIS soldiers". Now that is wise and invaluable, and who else would have come up with that but our training people? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Altai Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Now I declare my support for Trump because I see that everyone I hate supports the other candidate. I always follow my enemies' arrows to find true path. Edited November 9, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
The_Squid Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Quote In saying a racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, lying egomaniac could “make America great again,” its voters have shown that ‘greatness’ was just a yearning for times when white supremacy went unchallenged. https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/09/americas-minorities-dealt-horror-with-racist-president-in-trump-paradkar.html This guy nails it: Quote https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/09/globalisation-dead-white-supremacy-trump-neoliberal Donald Trump has won the presidency – not because of the “white working class”, but because millions of middle-class and educated US citizens reached into their soul and found there, after all its conceits were stripped away, a grinning white supremacist. Plus untapped reserves of misogyny. The academic debate about what’s driving the ultra-right surge in liberal democracies – migration or economic hardship – was always sterile in the case of the US. High recent migration into an economy where growth provides only low-paid jobs, in the absence of a strong and progressive labour movement, is always going to fuel the right. But that’s not the US. The US “won” the global recovery after 2008. It stabilised its banks and opted strong and early for monetary expansion. Real wage growth has wavered around the 4% line for the past five years. And he goes on to say what should be the response.... which I think is accurate as well: Quote You’re going to hear a lot of wailing from the left about our “disconnection” with the values of “ordinary working-class people”. It is bullshit – both as a fact and an explanation of what’s happened. In every state in America there are working-class people staffing beleaguered abortion clinics, organising unions among migrant cleaners and Walmart workers. Those who tell you the left has to somehow “reconnect” with people whose minds are full of white supremacy and misogyny must finish the sentence. By what means? By throwing our black brothers and sisters under a bus? Eighty years ago the poets and miners of the International Brigades did not march into battle saying: “Mind you, the fascists have got a point.” It’s not about reconnection. As in the UK, the racist right in America is a minority that can and must be defeated. It’s about re-forming the political coalition that won both the New Deal and the second world war. The left, the unions, the ethnic minorities; the liberal middle class; and that section of Wall Street and the US boardroom that is unprepared to lie supine as wannabe-Trumps put their “locker room talk” into practice. It will not be hard for a common story to emerge that puts the defence of global interconnection, racial tolerance and gender equality at its heart. But we have to tell it convincingly. And to do so Democrats in America must find the courage to learn what British Labour – in a huge and unfinished effort – has learned. Stop putting discredited representatives of the elite at the top of the ballot paper. Edited November 9, 2016 by The_Squid Quote
Bonam Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, The_Squid said: This guy nails it: I don't think so. No doubt, Trump is a racist and sexist. But that's not why he won the election. He won the election because he had a message that resonated (even if based on false empty promises and non-factual claims). Clinton had no message, she conceded the direction of the conversation to Trump for the entire duration of the campaign. The Clinton campaign evidently thought that their best bet was to lay low and hope that Trump would sink himself with his own words. That backfired, badly. Trump knew exactly how many voters he needed and how many he could afford to alienate, and his words resonated with exactly the number of people they needed to resonate with. You don't win an election by letting your opponent control the story. The democrats picked a uniquely terrible campaigner. Everyone thought she had the nomination in the bag in 2008, but Obama came out of nowhere with some decent campaigning skills and took it away from her. And even this year, she almost lost to Sanders, another obscure out of nowhere person, and hardly the picture of a democratic champion. Edited November 9, 2016 by Bonam Quote
marcus Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Of course, the base and a majority of his supporters, are sexist and bigots, however, the reason why Trump won is because of the rebellion against the corrupt political system. Hillary was the perfect symbol of that. She is a representative of the multi-nationals and wall street. The good news is that a politician like Bernie, who actually wants to represent the people, will have a chance to win in four years. Edited November 9, 2016 by marcus Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Argus Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, marcus said: Of course, the base and a majority of his supporters, are sexist and bigots, however, the reason why Trump won is because of the rebellion against the corrupt political system. Hillary was the perfect symbol of that. She is a representative of the multi-nationals and wall street. And with Trump's election the stock of the big banks and pharmaceutical companies are exploding upward. Gee, do you think there might be some doubt in certain quarters about how much of an enemy of Wall Street he is? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
marcus Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Argus said: And with Trump's election the stock of the big banks and pharmaceutical companies are exploding upward. Gee, do you think there might be some doubt in certain quarters about how much of an enemy of Wall Street he is? It's not about Trump. Besides the few things that will never happen (build a wall paid by Mexico and keep Muslims out) Trump never really had a platform. I'm pretty sure he'll do what he can to lower his taxes. This was all about not voting for Hillary and voting against the usual. I do wonder how many Bernie supporters voted third party or not vote at all. This big defeat can lead to a change in the democratic party. A party that may actually start representing the people. Edited November 9, 2016 by marcus Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 Trump will add more volatility to markets, which is good for small investors like me. Just bought some Valeant Pharma on the dip and it is up as of now. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump will add more volatility to markets, which is good for small investors like me. Just bought some Valeant Pharma on the dip and it is up as of now. The time to buy the pharma companies was yesterday. Wish I'd thought to. I did buy gold and a couple of defense contractors though, who all did very well today. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Argus said: The time to buy the pharma companies was yesterday. Wish I'd thought to. I did buy gold and a couple of defense contractors though, who all did very well today. Trump would say, "Good job". That's what markets are for. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
betsy Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, The_Squid said: https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/09/americas-minorities-dealt-horror-with-racist-president-in-trump-paradkar.html This guy nails it: And he goes on to say what should be the response.... which I think is accurate as well: Nail my foot. He's lost it. That guy is in denial, or hallucinating! Quote
Smallc Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 2 hours ago, overthere said: Yes, all those warm blankies really turned the tide. and the advice from the Canadian advisors to the Kurds: "go kill ISIS soldiers". Now that is wise and invaluable, and who else would have come up with that but our training people? In other words, you don't know what you're talking about. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 5 hours ago, ?Impact said: I don't think Donald can keep his fingers out of the cookie dough. I agree with you that Pence will be more active than previous VPs, but at some point he will step out of line and Donald is not very forgiving. Cheney was THE most active VP I've seen. For obvious reasons... Quote
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