Boges Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) On September 22, 2000, Ronald Gay opened fire on Backstreet Cafe, a gay bar in Roanoke, Virginia, killing Danny Overstreet, 43, and severely injuring six others. Gay was angry that his last name could mean “homosexual” and said God had told him to kill gay people. He called himself a “Christian Soldier working for my Lord” and testified in court that he wished he could have “killed more fags.” If the Pulse nightclub is about Islam, then the Backstreet Cafe is about Christianity. They are both equally vile. It certainly is. You had to go back 16 years to find an example, and even then it pales in comparison to two recent Islam inspired killings in America, not mention the scores that happen in other parts of the world. Edited June 13, 2016 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 So even though Islam has a vocal and violent stance on homosexuality, you can't entertain the idea that perhaps Islam likewise played a role? What bothers me about the mental health aspect of this is that it's being employed as an excuse to whitewash the rest of it and pretend it's not there. Similar to "Oh, the Montreal Massacre wasn't inspired by hatred of women, Marc Lepine was just crazy, that's all it was." Well, no, that's not all it was. Is it unrealistic to suggest that extreme rhetoric, like the kind of anti-gay rhetoric we hear from religious conservatives, might have an influence on people who are already volatile or violent by nature? -k Motive is the only factor with any variance when it comes to mass shootings. The commonality is mental instability and access to guns. In *this case*, his motive was his religion's stance on homosexuality, but it's ridiculous to say it was his religion when it happens so often to non-Muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Okay...I'm convinced. No need to do anything re: Islam. What's your suggestion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 What's your suggestion? Convert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) It certainly is. You had to go back 16 years to find an example, and even then it pales in comparison to two recent Islam inspired killings in America, not mention the scores that happen in other parts of the world. What about the guy who shot up the black Church in SC? How come when white people commit hate crimes they're only accountable for themselves but when brown or black people do, they are ambassadors for their entire community? Edited June 13, 2016 by BC_chick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) On September 22, 2000, Ronald Gay opened fire on Backstreet Cafe, a gay bar in Roanoke, Virginia, killing Danny Overstreet, 43, and severely injuring six others. Gay was angry that his last name could mean homosexual and said God had told him to kill gay people. He called himself a Christian Soldier working for my Lord and testified in court that he wished he could have killed more fags. If the Pulse nightclub is about Islam, then the Backstreet Cafe is about Christianity. They are both equally vile. Yes, exactly! Only the numbers vary. Edited June 13, 2016 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 What about the guy who shot up the black Church in SC? How come when white people commit hate crimes they're only accountable for themselves but when brown or black people do, they are ambassadors for their entire community? Excellent citation. Sounds like an act of violence against Christians. An athiest killed a group of Muslims recently. I think when religion is used as the cause of terrorism it's more alarming than when people have been bullied and lash back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 What about the guy who shot up the black Church in SC? How come when white people commit hate crimes they're only accountable for themselves but when brown or black people do, they are ambassadors for their entire community? They're not. They are accountable for themselves and those that agree with them, and those that support them. Same with religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 You've already been told that this is not an amusing shtick. Assalamu Alaikum. On the contrary, I find the racist shtick on here very amusing and as a recent convert I think somebody should speak for those Muslims taking over North America. You have laughed at the 72 virgins joke and tell everybody that we have a hidden agenda. You Infidels try to blame us for all your problems and when one of us tries to explain our point of view you go all ballistic. I shall continue my duty Insha’Allah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Convert. You rail on and on about how "the left" ignores the problem, yet you offer no solutions. If you threw something out there, it might even turn into a discussion. Since you won't, we are left with your empty "left is bad" rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 You rail on and on about how "the left" ignores the problem, yet you offer no solutions. If you threw something out there, it might even turn into a discussion. Since you won't, we are left with your empty "left is bad" rhetoric. I never bring right or left into discussions on Islam. Right and left politics are a part of democracy...from the French Republic, in fact...not Saudi Arabia. You brought it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 You rail on and on about how "the left" ignores the problem, yet you offer no solutions. If you threw something out there, it might even turn into a discussion. Since you won't, we are left with your empty "left is bad" rhetoric. I don't think there are any solutions, other than time. It took Christianity hundreds of years to leave the dark ages behind, and much of Islam is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I don't think there are any solutions, other than time. It took Christianity hundreds of years to leave the dark ages behind, and much of Islam is still there. The solution is to allow Islam to enter our societies full bore. We should either convert or submit if we don't want problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 The solution is to allow Islam to enter our societies full bore. We should either convert or submit if we don't want problems... Finally somebody with a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 You've already been told that this is not an amusing shtick. says who? It's a most interesting approach that appears to register just a tad too close for some here... but c'mon, just accept that crescent rolls (and croissants too) are a 2-way covert action - one side devouring Islam, the other side nurturing. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 says who? It's a most interesting approach that appears to register just a tad too close for some here... but c'mon, just accept that crescent rolls (and croissants too) are a 2-way covert action - one side devouring Islam, the other side nurturing. . kimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 says who? It's a most interesting approach that appears to register just a tad too close for some here... but c'mon, just accept that crescent rolls (and croissants too) are a 2-way covert action - one side devouring Islam, the other side nurturing. . Yeah cutting satire. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 The solution is to allow Islam to enter our societies full bore. We should either convert or submit if we don't want problems... So what would be your actual solution? Obviously, this is tongue in cheek... let's hear the DoP solution to radical Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 These things will continue to happen, and more often as more Muslims come over, and it will be on the heads of the progressives who fought desperately, even fanatically, to bring as many conservative Muslims with retrograde social views to North America. But don't worry, you say! Their kids born in Canada will be fully integrated! Just like this guy... Trying to equate Islamic extremism with all muslims is counter-productive. It only makes ISIS stronger, and that is a stupid thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 So what would be your actual solution? Obviously, this is tongue in cheek... let's hear the DoP solution to radical Islam. As stated...convert. The more Islam dominates a society, the more issues non-Muslims have. And just minding your own business won't do...Islam is proactive re: stamping-out opposing points of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Trying to equate Islamic extremism with all muslims is counter-productive. It only makes ISIS stronger, and that is a stupid thing to do. If that's all it takes for Muslims to turn murderous...well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 If that's all it takes for Muslims to turn murderous...well...What are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) What are you talking about? Best not equate Islam with violence lest it turn the members murderous? C'mon....even you can see the problem. Edited June 13, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) As stated...convert. The more Islam dominates a society, the more issues non-Muslims have. And just minding your own business won't do...Islam is proactive re: stamping-out opposing points of view. We are beginning our conquest. There appear to be a strong correlation between Christianity and violence. Historically the Christians used the excuse of religion to demolish and rape Europe under the guise of these things called "Crusades". I think there were about 7 or 8 of them that Christians used to pillage and murder. But we Muslims are a peaceful people. We will not hold that against Christians, some of whom still murder and hate on the pretense of their faith. There are some in our community who resent the fact that more and more Christians are coming into Europe and the Middle East. Even when something called the UN took away some of our lands in Palestine and dropped a whole bunch of Israelis there, we tried to accommodate. When the Middle East were all Muslim we had only a few problems which we resolved. Then the Western Christians discovered that we had oil and it was shipload and shipload of Christians into our lands. Now the Christians set up puppet governments to rule us. Canada has lots of room, lots of places to grow goats and the water is cheap. We are getting converts every day but unfortunately some of them left Canada and disappeared into Syria and Iran. May God be good to them but the future of Islam is in North America - I have no idea why they left. Things will go well ‘In shā‘ Allāh. Edited June 13, 2016 by Big Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) We are beginning our conquest. There appear to be a strong correlation between Christianity and violence. Historically the Christians used the excuse of religion to demolish and rape Europe under the guise of these things called "Crusades". I think there were about 7 or 8 of them that Christians used to pillage and murder. But we Muslims are a peaceful people. We will not hold that against Christians, some of whom still murder and hate on the pretense of their faith. There are some in our community who resent the fact that more and more Christians are coming into Europe and the Middle East. Even when something called the UN took away some of our lands in Palestine and dropped a whole bunch of Israelis there, we tried to accommodate. When the Middle East were all Muslim we had only a few problems which we resolved. Then the Western Christians discovered that we had oil and it was shipload and shipload of Christians into our lands. N At least to admit you're a Muslim. Edited July 20, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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