America under President Trump

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

I doubt Canada will actually do that...but if it does, you can thank President Trump for motivating Canada to stop being so dependent on the U.S. economy.

How cynical.  Right up there with “Arbeit macht frei”.

[bush_cheney2004]

25 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

How cynical.  Right up there with “Arbeit macht frei”.

 

Thank you...reality bites that way.   Whether it is Bush blocking softwood lumber, Obama and "Buy American", or Trump's tariffs...one would think that Canada would have figured it out by now.    What is it going to take ?

[Zeitgeist]

It’s obviously not about taking the high road or honour; more like whatever you can get away with.  

[bush_cheney2004]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s obviously not about taking the high road or honour; more like whatever you can get away with.  

 

...and a strong dose of what Canada has chosen for over 50 years, to wit:

 

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Frank McKenna is former Canadian Ambassador to the United States

A new trade agreement with the United States may provide Canadians with a sense of relief. But these negotiations have shaken our confidence in our largest trading partner. Indeed, our vulnerability has been laid bare for all the world to see. Let’s not waste this crisis.

We have known for more than 50 years of our need to diversify our export markets, but nothing has really changed in the way we have responded to that need.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-why-we-need-to-diversify-exports/

 

[Argus]

On 10/25/2018 at 5:49 PM, Zeitgeist said:

It’s obviously not about taking the high road or honour; more like whatever you can get away with.  

Trump is not nor has he ever been a man of honor, honesty, integrity or decency. This is a guy who cut off his own nephew's health care (he had cerebral palsy) because he was angry at their parents.

Edited October 27, 2018 by Argus

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Trump is not nor has he ever been a man of honor, honesty, integrity or decency. This is a guy who cut off his own nephew's health care (he had cerebral palsy) because he was angry at their parents.

That’s really cruel. 

[Boges]

This weekend while in France for the 100th Anniversary of the WW1 Armistice, he cancelled an appearance because of RAIN!!!! He can't be seen in public when it's raining because of his hair piece. 

He also goes after California because of the Wildfires, disrespecting those that put their lives on the line fighting these horrific fires. 

But kneeling during the national anthem disrespects those that serve? 

[-TSS-]

George HW Bush is dead. I wonder is Trump welcome to his funeral.

I was counting the other day; there have recently been during the term of any president five former living presidents since when Clinton started when there were Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush sr. When GW Bush started there were Ford, Carter,  Reagan, Bush sr and Clinton. When Obama started there were Ford, Carter, Bush sr, Clinton and Bush GW . When Trump started there were Carter, Bush sr, Clinton, Bush GW and Obama.

 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, -TSS- said:

George HW Bush is dead. I wonder is Trump welcome to his funeral.

 

President Trump and the First Lady are scheduled to attend the state funeral for President George H. W. Bush.   It would not be consistent for #41 to shun Trump despite a poor and combative relationship with Bush politics.

Trump has declared the usual 30 days of mourning for flags at half-mast across the U.S.

[Boges]

So I guess Wall Street didn't seem so optimistic that President Trade Tariff accomplished anything with China over the weekend. The Stock Market lost 800 points yesterday. The four largest single-day drops in the Dow's history came this year, under this president. 

And in other news, to counter his witness tampering by praising those who don't rat (which he harshly criticized in reference to Democrats), The Mueller team recommended Micheal Flynn get no jail time. Must be giving them good shit. 

The court document also showed that there are two other criminal investigations Flynn is helping Mueller with. Don Jr and Jared? 

Edited December 5, 2018 by Boges

[Iznogoud]

Looks like Mueller is closing in. 

U.S. Justice Department Connects Trump To A Federal Crime For 1st Time

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/12/08/u-s-justice-department-connects-trump-to-a-federal-crime-for-1st-time_a_23612563/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

[Don Jonas]

I like how the Trump strategy is to make up BS that he has been cleared of wrongdoing on the assumption that his supporters (see above) will just accept what he tells them to believe, no matter how far removed from reality it is.

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, Don Jonas said:

I like how the Trump strategy is to make up BS that he has been cleared of wrongdoing on the assumption that his supporters (see above) will just accept what he tells them to believe, no matter how far removed from reality it is.

I don't think he has a strategy, per se, or at least not a well-thought out one.  I would guess he is relying on the Republican Senate to protect him from impeachment, and feels that he can rally Americans behind him during the ensuing deadlock.  It's very simple, but also requires the least amount of finesse and thinking... and READING

I would guess that people would tire of this do-nothing approach and that the economy will be down by 2020, which should help usher this loser out of office.

[bush_cheney2004]

Trump's chaos strategy has served him very well....that's how he became the 45th President of the United States, defeating Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Impeachment...or another "nothingburger" ?    President Bill Clinton was also impeached, but he still served two full terms.

 

[Boges]

21 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump's chaos strategy has served him very well....that's how he became the 45th President of the United States, defeating Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Impeachment...or another "nothingburger" ?    President Bill Clinton was also impeached, but he still served two full terms.

Constantly telling outright, demonstrable lies to try and deceive his base has also served him well. Does that mean it's right? The chaos strategy has also given the Dems the best mid-term result they've had since Watergate.  

The more people that leave the administration and tell how he's a simple crook like Rex Tillerson did, the more it'll be hard to hide behind Fake News. If Rex was really "Dumb As a Rock" then why'd he get nominated? The only people that aren't dumb are blind "Yes Men"? 

The list is growing long of people leaving this administration because they committed crimes, fraud or felt they can't work with the President.

Drain the Swamp indeed. 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Constantly telling outright, demonstrable lies to try and deceive his base has also served him well. Does that mean it's right? The chaos strategy has also given the Dems the best mid-term result they've had since Watergate. 

 

The Dems also had the worst mid-term results in 2010...far worse than Trump/Republicans in 2018.   

 

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The more people that leave the administration and tell how he's a simple crook like Rex Tillerson did, the more it'll be hard to hide behind Fake News. If Rex was really "Dumb As a Rock" then why'd he get nominated? The only people that aren't dumb are blind "Yes Men"? 

The list is growing long of people leaving this administration because they committed crimes, fraud or felt they can't work with the President.

Drain the Swamp indeed. 

 

They all serve at the pleasure of the president....did I mention that Trump is still the president ?    

I'm sure he will be impeached any day now.....right ?   That's what the losers have been saying since day one.

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The Dems also had the worst mid-term results in 2010...far worse than Trump/Republicans in 2018.   

The interesting thing about that is that it was because of ObamaCare. Other than the President being a criminal, Healthcare and preserving protections in the ACA was the main thing that allowed the Dems to get traction in 2018. 

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They all serve at the pleasure of the president....did I mention that Trump is still the president ?    

I don't suspect he'll leave any time soon. But he's running out of capable people that will be seen in the same room with him. 

 

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I'm sure he will be impeached any day now.....right ?   That's what the losers have been saying since day one.

Cite where I've predicted Impeachment. It would be foolish because it also requires a Super Majority in the Senate.

Too that though, why hasn't Trump fired Mueller? Or even Rosenstein? It's because even he knows it may be a bridge too far for the Republicans that are propping him up right now. Matthew Whitaker can't do shit to Mueller at this point, the optics would be too terrible, even for an appointed political stooge.  

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

The interesting thing about that is that it was because of ObamaCare. Other than the President being a criminal, Healthcare and preserving protections in the ACA was the main thing that allowed the Dems to get traction in 2018.

 

That's right....Obama and his party got slaughtered far worse than Trump, and would go on to lose the House, Senate, governorships, and legislatures (approx. 1,000 seats).

So lets review....lying Trump did far better than Obama.   

 

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I don't suspect he'll leave any time soon. But he's running out of capable people that will be seen in the same room with him.

 

So ?    There will always be more people who want the position/power.

 

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Cite where I've predicted Impeachment. It would be foolish because it also requires a Super Majority in the Senate.

 

It's not all about you.   Many of Trump's other critics have very much indeed predicted impeachment.

 

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Too that though, why hasn't Trump fired Mueller? Or even Rosenstein? It's because even he knows it may be a bridge too far for the Republicans that are propping him up right now. Matthew Whitaker can't do shit to Mueller at this point, the optics would be too terrible, even for an appointed political stooge.  

 

Why would Trump fire Mueller ?    Mueller has nothing yet on Trump and "collusion".   Trump has more support from his party than Obama had from all Democrats.

 

[Boges]

10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

=That's right....Obama and his party got slaughtered far worse than Trump, and would go on to lose the House, Senate, governorships, and legislatures (approx. 1,000 seats).

So lets review....lying Trump did far better than Obama.   

Thanks to Gerrymandering. 

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So ?    There will always be more people who want the position/power.

Sure, but at this point Trump is drawing on the D-Team. 

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It's not all about you.   Many of Trump's other critics have very much indeed predicted impeachment.

Well that's foolish. Clinton got impeached and stayed President. You really only hear the media talking about Impeachment. Right now the Democrats just want to get control of committees so they can embarrass Trump more. 

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Why would Trump fire Mueller ?    Mueller has nothing yet on Trump and "collusion".   Trump has more support from his party than Obama had from all Democrats.

Why would he call for the end of the investigation? He can end it can't he? 

Edited December 10, 2018 by Boges

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, Boges said:

Thanks to Gerrymandering.

 

You have to WIN more seats first to control voting districts....Obama lost far more seats than "lying" Trump....fact.

 

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Sure, but at this point Trump is drawing on the D-Team.

 

D-listers were good enough for Obama...why not Trump ?    Trump was/is a D-lister too, but he still kicked all the A-lister asses in 2016.

 

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Well that's foolish. Clinton got impeached and stayed President. You really only hear the media talking about Impeachment. Right now the Democrats just want to get control of committees so they can embarrass Trump more.

 

False...several members of Congress threatened to draft articles of impeachment early on, and continue to do so.

 

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Why would he call for the end of the investigation? He can end it can't he? 

 

Mueller is already at the end of his nothingburger investigation.

Edited December 10, 2018 by bush_cheney2004

[Boges]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

You have to WIN more seats first to control voting districts....Obama lost more seats than "lying" Trump....fact.

Thanks to Gerrymander. At, it appear voter fraud, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/7/18128973/north-carolina-9th-district-voter-election-fraud-mccrae-dowless

 

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D-listers were good enough for Obama...why not Trump ?    Trump was/is a D-lister too, but he still kicked all the A-lister asses in 2016.

Yes but the fact that he's at the D-List means his A, B, and C Listers either quit or got fired. He got to nominate them. Trump hasn't even filled all the positions he needs to. It's a do-nothing Executive. 

 

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False...several members of Congress threatened to draft articles of impeachment early on, and continue to do so.

And I believe that's foolish. We'll see what happens. 

 

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Mueller is already at the end of his nothingburger investigation.

Oh really? You have knowledge of the leakless Russia probe? Please share. I don't think I've even heard the sound of Robert Mueller's voice. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Boges said:

Thanks to Gerrymander. At, it appear voter fraud, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/7/18128973/north-carolina-9th-district-voter-election-fraud-mccrae-dowless

 

Obama benefited from voter fraud too...so what ?     Trump outperformed Obama for their first mid-term elections, and nothing you post can change that.

 

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Yes but the fact that he's at the D-List means his A, B, and C Listers either quit or got fired. He got to nominate them. Trump hasn't even filled all the positions he needs to. It's a do-nothing Executive.

 

"Yes"...as in Trump did kick all their asses.

Do you think Obama filled all his positions too ?    Why are memories so short when it comes to Trump ?

 

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And I believe that's foolish. We'll see what happens. 

Oh really? You have knowledge of the leakless Russia probe? Please share. I don't think I've even heard the sound of Robert Mueller's voice. 

 

Opinion noted, but completely irrelevant to the matter.    The political battle has been enjoined, and nothing is ruled out on either side.

Impeachment is a political process, not a criminal prosecution.

[Boges]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Obama benefited from voter fraud too...so what ?     Trump outperformed Obama for their first mid-term elections, and nothing you post can change that.

Cite? 

 

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"Yes"...as in Trump did kick all their asses.

By getting 3 million less votes. 

 

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Do you think Obama filled all his positions too ?    Why are memories so short when it comes to Trump ?

This many? 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2018/01/12/daily-202-trump-has-no-nominees-for-245-important-jobs-including-an-ambassador-to-south-korea/5a57cce830fb0469e8840085/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ffba60c13e66

 

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Opinion noted, but completely irrelevant to the matter.    The political battle has been enjoined, and nothing is ruled out on either side.

Impeachment is a political process, not a criminal prosecution.

And to win the House Impeachment wasn't really the threat used by the Dems. If Impeachment is their choice than the fear-mongering will ensue. 

[bush_cheney2004]

12 minutes ago, Boges said:

Cite?

 

Here is one...of many...remember ACORN ?    Or did Trump erase that memory ?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/

 

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By getting 3 million less votes.

 

A win is a win....sorry...can't change the election rules just because Trump won.   Trump also defeated 16 other candidates for the GOP nomination....quite easily.

 

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And to win the House Impeachment wasn't really the threat used by the Dems. If Impeachment is their choice than the fear-mongering will ensue. 

 

They were suppose to win the House....the opposing party routinely wins more seats, regardless of impeachment.

Trump has been president for almost two years, and will likely finish his first term, regardless of any fear mongering.   If it was good enough for Bill Clinton to endure, then so can Donald Trump.   All these things do is solidify Trump as another U.S. president, with friends and enemies...like all the rest.

Edited December 10, 2018 by bush_cheney2004

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Here is one...of many...remember ACORN ?    Or did Trump erase that memory ?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/

From 2008, Not apples to apples. 

 

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A win is a win....sorry...can't change the election rules just because Trump won.   Trump also defeated 16 other candidates for the GOP nomination....quite easily.

Yes but "Kicking Ass" is a bit to much Hyperbole for receiving less votes than Mitt Romney. 

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They were suppose to win the House....the opposing party routinely wins more seats, regardless of impeachment.

Just because? That's just the way things are? or because the President is immensely unpopular. 

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Trump has been president for almost two years, and will likely finish his first term, regardless of any fear mongering.   If it was good enough for Bill Clinton to endure, then so can Donald Trump.   All these things do is solidify Trump as another U.S. president, with friends and enemies...like all the rest.

So this is how things will go? Just pivoting to impeachment? It's not like it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. 

It's the us vs them thing that makes Trump an awful President. He can only campaign, when he's in full control of government, like he has been in the last 2 years, he still needed an enemy. The Dems didn't prevent the Wall being built, Trump didn't get it built because he can't govern.