Boges Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 In retrospect Trump's strategy here is obvious. He could have had his funding for the wall last year if he would agree to DACA protection. He didn't. But now that he's lost control of the House it's the most important thing in the world. Trump can't function without someone to blame for his incompetence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 34 minutes ago, Boges said: But tell us again how Hilary killed those people in Bengazi. Hillary was pretty much a part and responsible for the deaths of those Americans in Bengazi because she did not do anything quick enough to try and help them. After they were killed she pretty much said "what's the difference now" or just like she said when Saddam was murdered. "We came, we saw, we killed him(Saddam)". What kind of an ass hole person would say something like that unless they are an ass hole? Pretty sad words to be saying coming from someone who wanted to be president of the USA. Hilary like Obama never did give a crap about America. It was all about the money and the power and screw the people of America. Trump is a true American patriot nationalist and America needs more leaders like him. Just tell us all as to why during the Obama years he has allowed illegal immigration into America to continue en masse while he was in office? Obama did nothing to try and stop illegal immigration. At least Trump is trying to stop "illegal" immigration. It is the democrats that want more "illegal" immigration to continue into America and they are also responsible for the deaths of those two kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 17 hours ago, taxme said: Hillary was pretty much a part and responsible for the deaths of those Americans in Bengazi because she did not do anything quick enough to try and help them. After they were killed she pretty much said "what's the difference now" or just like she said when Saddam was murdered. "We came, we saw, we killed him(Saddam)". What kind of an ass hole person would say something like that unless they are an ass hole? Pretty sad words to be saying coming from someone who wanted to be president of the USA. Hilary like Obama never did give a crap about America. It was all about the money and the power and screw the people of America. Trump is a true American patriot nationalist and America needs more leaders like him. Just tell us all as to why during the Obama years he has allowed illegal immigration into America to continue en masse while he was in office? Obama did nothing to try and stop illegal immigration. At least Trump is trying to stop "illegal" immigration. It is the democrats that want more "illegal" immigration to continue into America and they are also responsible for the deaths of those two kids. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/08/trump-deportations-behind-obama-levels-241420 Quote The U.S. is deporting people more slowly than during the Obama administration despite President Donald Trump’s vast immigration crackdown, according to new data from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. From Feb. 1 to June 30, ICE officials removed 84,473 people — a rate of roughly 16,900 people per month. If deportations continue at the same clip until the fiscal year ends Sept. 30, federal immigration officials will have removed fewer people than they did during even the slowest years of Barack Obama's presidency. Trump wants an immigration problem so he can try and blame the Democrats for it. Except before today his party was in control of 100% of the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Boges said: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/08/trump-deportations-behind-obama-levels-241420 Trump wants an immigration problem so he can try and blame the Democrats for it. Except before today his party was in control of 100% of the government. Get with the program. It has been the democrats that have been causing the problem of trying to remove as many illegals as Trump can get removed. The democrats have created sanctuary cities and have been making it difficult for ICE to remove more illegals because many states will not cooperate with ICE, especially California. Probably it would be double if it were not for the pro immigration liberal/democratic lobby that want more illegals let into America and who do not want to cooperate with Trump on illegal immigration. Trump is not the problem here, it is those dumbocrats who are the problem. And now they hold the house and will try and make it more difficult for Trump to try and fix the illegal immigrant mess in America. Trump did not hold 100% of the government. Trump had the majority house but not majority senate. If Trump did have majority senate he would have had the wall pretty much built by now. It was the senate democrats that were holding up getting the wall built. And now with those idiots back in power again illegal immigration will only get worse. Democrats/liberals are forever out there to try and destroy all things normal, decent and sane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Cite the bill republicans tabled to blget the wall built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Cite the bill republicans tabled to blget the wall built. Secure Fence Act of 2006 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iznogoud Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 2:01 PM, taxme said: Hillary was pretty much a part and responsible for the deaths of those Americans in Bengazi because she did not do anything quick enough to try and help them. After they were killed she pretty much said "what's the difference now" or just like she said when Saddam was murdered. "We came, we saw, we killed him(Saddam)". What kind of an ass hole person would say something like that unless they are an ass hole? Pretty sad words to be saying coming from someone who wanted to be president of the USA. Hilary like Obama never did give a crap about America. It was all about the money and the power and screw the people of America. Trump is a true American patriot nationalist and America needs more leaders like him. Just tell us all as to why during the Obama years he has allowed illegal immigration into America to continue en masse while he was in office? Obama did nothing to try and stop illegal immigration. At least Trump is trying to stop "illegal" immigration. It is the democrats that want more "illegal" immigration to continue into America and they are also responsible for the deaths of those two kids. Short of standing guard outside the embassy herself, I fail to see how Clinton could have prevented the death of the embassy guards. And you want an asshole? How about the one who posed in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner? And I think you better check Obama's record on illegal immigration. Check the graph you will find Obama's term of office in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 16 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Secure Fence Act of 2006 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006 And the Dems would provide funding for additional fencing. Not a 2,000 mile concrete wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Now Trump is repeating Russian conspiracy theories verbatim. He doesn't even need to try and pretend anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 How are Fox News fans not calling Chris Wallace a Cuck Beta Swampster after this? https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/fox-news-chris-wallace-sarah-huckabee-sanders_us_5c321e10e4b073352833c7c0?ec_carp=9189481664229121359 Quote White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Sunday continued to push the Trump administration’s false claims that terrorists pour into the U.S. across the border with Mexico. But Fox News’ Chris Wallace wasn’t having it. Sanders had a heated exchange with the host of “Fox News Sunday” as she discussed President Donald Trump’s threat to continue the partial government shutdown if his demand for $5 billion to fund a U.S.-Mexico border wall isn’t met by Democrats. “Let’s talk about the wall,” Wallace said. “The president talks about terrorists potentially coming across the border.” He then showed a clip of Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsenstating Friday that “over 3,000 special interest aliens” trying to enter the U.S. from the southern border had been stopped by Border Patrol agents. “But special interest aliens are just people who have come from countries that have ever produced a terrorist, they’re not terrorists themselves,” Wallace said. He also cited State Department reports that found “no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.” "Special Interest Aliens" are not terrorists AND they aren't all (or even a measurable amount) crossing along the border where a wall would reduce those numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boges said: How are Fox News fans not calling Chris Wallace a Cuck Beta Swampster after this? https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/fox-news-chris-wallace-sarah-huckabee-sanders_us_5c321e10e4b073352833c7c0?ec_carp=9189481664229121359 "Special Interest Aliens" are not terrorists AND they aren't all (or even a measurable amount) crossing along the border where a wall would reduce those numbers. I might point out that there was "no credible evidence" of terrorists coming into the US when they attacked the twin towers and the pentagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, cannuck said: I might point out that there was "no credible evidence" of terrorists coming into the US when they attacked the twin towers and the pentagon. That cross the border, by land, and not at a port of entry. The 911 terrorists were there legally? And even if they don't they didn't get there by trekking across a desert in Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 8:24 PM, Iznogoud said: Short of standing guard outside the embassy herself, I fail to see how Clinton could have prevented the death of the embassy guards. And you want an asshole? How about the one who posed in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner? And I think you better check Obama's record on illegal immigration. Check the graph you will find Obama's term of office in there somewhere. those numbers could be off by 3 or 4 orders of magnitude, according to several other estimates. The whole thing about undocumented illegals is that they aren't likely to be calling up the census or immigration office to report their presence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boges said: That cross the border, by land, and not at a port of entry. The 911 terrorists were there legally? And even if they don't they didn't get there by trekking across a desert in Arizona. The point is you don't know that, you are just assuming. Were I a terrorist handler, it would be my responsibility to use EVERY opportunity to implant a cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, cannuck said: The point is you don't know that, you are just assuming. Were I a terrorist handler, it would be my responsibility to use EVERY opportunity to implant a cell. So that's where we're at to justify 5.6 billion spent on a wall that's not even all that popular. That the president insisted would be paid for by Mexico. Trump supporters are so forgiving they assume Trump's lying and love him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boges said: So that's where we're at to justify 5.6 billion spent on a wall that's not even all that popular. That the president insisted would be paid for by Mexico. Trump supporters are so forgiving they assume Trump's lying and love him anyway. Whether you like him or not, or agree with the wall or not, reality is the days of open borders need to come to an end. THAT is what the Demo lefties don't seem to appreciate. While Trump has a rather crude way of interpreting, he is the ONLY President who seems to have appreciated the importance. Edited January 7, 2019 by cannuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, cannuck said: Whether you like him or not, or agree with the wall or not, reality is the days of open borders need to come to an end. THAT is what the Demo lefties don't seem to appreciate. Would that include Canada as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Would that include Canada as well? Sadly, yes. We are the longest undefended border in the world, and since OUR borders are now wide open - shit, we INVITE terrorists and pay them a $10mm (Cdn, though) reward for every Yank they murder - any handler worth his 72 virgins has figured that out years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, cannuck said: Sadly, yes. We are the longest undefended border in the world, and since OUR borders are now wide open - shit, we INVITE terrorists and pay them a $10mm (Cdn, though) reward for every Yank they murder - any handler worth his 72 virgins has figured that out years ago. Alright well good luck getting that paid for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Boges said: Alright well good luck getting that paid for. I agree with you that a simple wall or fence is not the answer. In fact, when it comes to the Canada/US border, would be highly ineffective. We have so much water-to-water border, land would be a waste and air would still be wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 No matter how big a given wall is. A motivated group will be able to climb over it or dig under it. You need it to be patrolled. That's the pricey part of the element. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Boges said: No matter how big a given wall is. A motivated group will be able to climb over it or dig under it. You need it to be patrolled. That's the pricey part of the element. I think the logic is that it is enough of an impediment that attempts to cross will take long enough for CBP to intercept. Fact is: the border is there and it WILL be crossed. AND, it WILL be patrolled. Just how effective you can make detection for the patrol agents is what is at stake/in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Boges said: No matter how big a given wall is. A motivated group will be able to climb over it or dig under it. You need it to be patrolled. That's the pricey part of the element. Some of the reports I have seen where surveillance drones and the like can be implemented for much much less and be more effective and will take a very short time to deploy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, cannuck said: I might point out that there was "no credible evidence" of terrorists coming into the US when they attacked the twin towers and the pentagon. You might, but that wouldn't be true. You don't remember the memo titled "bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S."? So your argument that you don't need credible evidence to believe something (a typical Trump supporter argument) is not substantiated by that example at all. Would you like to try another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, cannuck said: I think the logic is that it is enough of an impediment that attempts to cross will take long enough for CBP to intercept. Fact is: the border is there and it WILL be crossed. AND, it WILL be patrolled. Just how effective you can make detection for the patrol agents is what is at stake/in question. I think the logic is that it would be worth it to spend billions on something if it can be used to stir up wedge politics by portraying immigration as an emergency crisis and illegal immigrants as white-walkers heading for King's Landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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