Donald vs Hillary

waldo · May 16, 2016

Here's the feedback from some women.

People have to understand that for some women - maybe, a lot of women - power, wealth and fame are great aphrodisiacs.

and here I thought the Republican talking point had women favouring Trump as the leader needed to keep America strong and secure from terrorists, invading Mexican illegals, Muslims... yowzer, you're going against the grain here! Just how big is your "some women"?

you seem to be the only member dropping these most selective types of Trump favoured nuggets - I don't read many instances of anyone drawing like reference to such things as... focus groups for Clinton. Do you think they don't exist?

for 5 successive American Presidential elections, American women have voted in favour of the Democratic Party. In 2012, Obama had a 12% point advantage among women over Romney. The gender gap wins American elections. Donald Trump luvs women... so he keeps saying... so he keeps showing! :lol:

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betsy · May 16, 2016

and here I thought the Republican talking point had women favouring Trump as the leader needed to keep America strong and secure from terrorists, invading Mexican illegals, Muslims... yowzer, you're going against the grain here! Just how big is your "some women"?

you seem to be the only member dropping these most selective types of Trump favoured nuggets - I don't read many instances of anyone drawing like reference to such things as... focus groups for Clinton. Do you think they don't exist?

for 5 successive American Presidential elections, American women have voted in favour of the Democratic Party. In 2012, Obama had a 12% point advantage among women over Romney. The gender gap wins American elections. Donald Trump luvs women... so he keeps saying... so he keeps showing!

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So, you're reduced to quote-mining and changing the context of posts? Here, you forgot to include this in quoting me:

Women are not going to be making a big issue of Trump's alleged treatment of women.......

Comparison with the 5 successive American Presidential election is ......irrelevant.

I don't think "degrading" treatment of women was ever an election issue back then.

Clinton's bombshells happened after the elections!

As usual, you're not getting this, too.

Edited May 16, 2016 by betsy

waldo · May 16, 2016

So, you're reduced to quote-mining and changing the context of posts? Here, you forgot to include this in quoting me:

either stand by your words or quit your forever whining about being "quote mined"! I didn't change a damn thing... your selective, self-serving, gleaned focus group does not set the context for comments about Trump's "treatment of women" - and there's no shortage of factual accounting of that sexist, demeaning and misogynistic treatment to take the edge off your "alleged" spin.

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Shady · May 16, 2016

either stand by your words or quit your forever whining about being "quote mined"! I didn't change a damn thing... your selective, self-serving, gleaned focus group does not set the context for comments about Trump's "treatment of women" - and there's no shortage of factual accounting of that sexist, demeaning and misogynistic treatment to take the edge off your "alleged" spin.

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I guess he's similar to Bill Clinton in that regard.

waldo · May 16, 2016

I guess he's similar to Bill Clinton in that regard.

wow! Zinger! Totally relevant, hey. Surely, you're not like MLW member betsy in wanting to associate the decades old infidelities of Bill Clinton to his wife Hillary, are you? If so, why would you want to further victimize the victim? Say it ain't so... say it ain't so!

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cybercoma · May 16, 2016

Remember what I've posted before? That there are lots of Hispanics who voted fro Trump?

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/02/trump-wins-in-americas-most-hispanic-city/#ixzz48jqsP0Ey

Too bad he's not running for mayor, eh?

Shady · May 16, 2016

wow! Zinger! Totally relevant, hey. Surely, you're not like MLW member betsy in wanting to associate the decades old infidelities of Bill Clinton to his wife Hillary, are you? If so, why would you want to further victimize the victim? Say it ain't so... say it ain't so!

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Hillary isn't the victim, she did much of the victimizing. Destroying the lives of the women her husband wronged.

waldo · May 16, 2016

Hillary isn't the victim, she did much of the victimizing. Destroying the lives of the women her husband wronged.

that's your spin. However, the focus, your focus, was to presume to compare Bill Clinton to Trump in regards treatment of women. You choose, by extension, to attach Hillary Clinton to those decade old infidelities of Bill Clinton. As Hillary Clinton was the victim of her husbands actions, you sir, you are further victimizing the victim. Just who is running for the U.S. Democrats this election cycle - Hillary or Bill Clinton?

and besides.... OBAMA!!!

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Hal 9000 · May 16, 2016

that's your spin. However, the focus, your focus, was to presume to compare Bill Clinton to Trump in regards treatment of women. You choose, by extension, to attach Hillary Clinton to those decade old infidelities of Bill Clinton. As Hillary Clinton was the victim of her husbands actions, you sir, you are further victimizing the victim. Just who is running for the U.S. Democrats this election cycle - Hillary or Bill Clinton?

and besides.... OBAMA!!!

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It's been known for years that Hillary knew all about the affairs - in fact everybody on the inside apparently knew, the issues aren't about the affairs, it's about how Hillary destroyed the women who slept with Bill and later came forward...or wanted to come forward.

It's you people who chose to constantly turn this from Hillary's actions and make it about the affairs themselves.

akhoring · May 16, 2016

Trump Hillary Debate Video

The funny debate in the video link above got me thinking..

1. Will Hillary bring up Trump disparaging woman? Cause it will open the door for Trump to talk about her husband.

2. How will Trump handle not being ahead in the polls since that was one of his main talking points..

3. Who will flip flop more in the general between Trump or Hillary?

4. How will Hillary react to Trump Insults. Will she play the victim or will she go back at him.

betsy · May 16, 2016

Too bad he's not running for mayor, eh?

That's a big step down, isn't it? From being President to being mayor......

betsy · May 16, 2016

Trump Hillary Debate Video

The funny debate in the video link above got me thinking..

1. Will Hillary bring up Trump disparaging woman? Cause it will open the door for Trump to talk about her husband.

2. How will Trump handle not being ahead in the polls since that was one of his main talking points..

3. Who will flip flop more in the general between Trump or Hillary?

4. How will Hillary react to Trump Insults. Will she play the victim or will she go back at him.

And she can't use the transparency card!

She doesn't even have the credibility questioning Trump's transparency with his income tax returns....since Hillary is not a transparent politician. Hence she's being investigated for her private emails! :lol:

Hillary should be reminded that it's not Trump, who's being investigated by the FBI.

She's cooked. I'm beginning to see why Conrad Black had said, "Trump will mop the floor with Hillary!"

Edited May 16, 2016 by betsy

cybercoma · May 17, 2016

That's a big step down, isn't it? From being President to being mayor......

#thatsthepoint

WestCoastRunner · May 17, 2016

Hillary isn't the victim, she did much of the victimizing. Destroying the lives of the women her husband wronged.

Hillary was the perpetrator? First and foremost, Hillary was a victim, she was a wife who was betrayed by a husband. No one can judge her reactions/actions.

cybercoma · May 17, 2016

Please. We just haven't heard of Hillary's own philandering. Theirs is a marriage of convenience.

WestCoastRunner · May 17, 2016

Please. We just haven't heard of Hillary's own philandering. Theirs is a marriage of convenience.

Not sure I agree with that.

cybercoma · May 17, 2016

Seriously, the only thing Hillary is a victim to is her own inability to cover her tracks when she does completely illegal things like breaching the regulations around some of the highest levels of security in the US government.

WestCoastRunner · May 17, 2016

Seriously, the only thing Hillary is a victim to is her own inability to cover her tracks when she does completely illegal things like breaching the regulations around some of the highest levels of security in the US government.

Not much is going to come from that.

Hal 9000 · May 17, 2016

Please. We just haven't heard of Hillary's own philandering. Theirs is a marriage of convenience.

Uhmmm errrr uhmmmm, I completely agree with you.

WestCoastRunner · May 17, 2016

Uhmmm errrr uhmmmm, I completely agree with you.

I do think they are a happily married couple with grandchildren. It doesn't get any better than that.

Edited May 17, 2016 by WestCoastRunner

cybercoma · May 17, 2016

Kings and Queens had grandchildren throughout the ages too. They didn't marry for love and I would be pretty surprised if the Clintons did too.

Smallc · May 17, 2016

Not much is going to come from that.

I'm almost convinced President Trump will come of that.

taxme · May 17, 2016

Me too. Clinton says whatever people want to hear and her opinions change with the times whereas Sanders has been speaking his mind consistently for all these year, popular opinion or not.

So does Trump, and he gets more flak for saying things as they are. Trump has called Hillary a liar, and she has not challenged him on that. So, he must be right. Americans are lucky that they have Trump running for President who calls it as he sees it unlike the rest of the candidates and other Presidents who can only speak and know how to be political correct. Let's be honest here? Can Trump do any worse than these last few present and past Presidents?

Argus · May 17, 2016

So does Trump, and he gets more flak for saying things as they are. Trump has called Hillary a liar, and she has not challenged him on that. So, he must be right. Americans are lucky that they have Trump running for President who calls it as he sees it unlike the rest of the candidates and other Presidents who can only speak and know how to be political correct. Let's be honest here? Can Trump do any worse than these last few present and past Presidents?

Trump lies constantly. It's not even open to debate. He's also a notorious adulterer. How he gets the balls to call Clinton an 'enabler' for her husband's cheating is beyond me, as is why he isn't called on his own adultery.

Hal 9000 · May 17, 2016

Trump lies constantly. It's not even open to debate. He's also a notorious adulterer. How he gets the balls to call Clinton an 'enabler' for her husband's cheating is beyond me, as is why he isn't called on his own adultery.

Are you suggesting that the media is giving Trump a free pass?