Smallc Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Romantic is your word, rather meaningless really. Whose community is romantic? Home is what it is. Home, on many reserves, is far from where the heart is. It's a terrible situation. Quote
TimG Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Once we remove Quebec, the Federal Government, and Federally regulated industries, this still leaves indigenous Canadians with access to many jobs in principle, just fewer than for English and French Canadians.~70% of the country are English speakers with some French learned in school. They have no fewer opportunities than that 70%. Language is not an excuse. Quote
Accountability Now Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Romantic is your word, rather meaningless really. Whose community is romantic? Home is what it is. . Actually 'romantic' his not his word but rather a word in the dictionary with this meaning: f, characterized by, or suggestive of an idealized view of reality. "a romantic attitude toward the past" synonyms: idyllic, picturesque, fairy-tale; More I have stated you have a romantic view of the First Nation situation and history before so it comes as no surprise that I agree with Smallc on this one. Quote
PIK Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Maybe people are spending to much time in school, do we need all these degrees to work these days. It is almost a conspiracy, that you cant get a good job with out a bunch of degrees, that forces you to stay in school longer and IMO the longer you stay the more stupid you become. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Argus Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Posted January 8, 2016 Maybe people are spending to much time in school, do we need all these degrees to work these days. It is almost a conspiracy, that you cant get a good job with out a bunch of degrees, that forces you to stay in school longer and IMO the longer you stay the more stupid you become. Young men, at least, would be better off learning a trade. We're a lot shorter of tradesmen than we are of keyboard tapping cubicle dweller with arts degrees. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 How? How is having a good education going to lead to less poverty and addiction if there are no jobs out there in the bush? Not all of us here in Canada have access to good education. Money being part of the problem, you know paying for that education. Quote
PIK Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 I live right next to and work with people from a remote reserve that is very successful. I donate and participate in their cultural ceremonies. It's still not the romantic situation you're trying to portray. Manitoba as I have read has had great success with natives running their own industry and making their own money with out having to depend on government hand outs. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Smallc Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Manitoba as I have read has had great success with natives running their own industry and making their own money with out having to depend on government hand outs. In some areas that's true. Overall Manitoba reserves are amongst if not the most impoverished in the country. Addictions of all kinds run rampant. Quote
eyeball Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) . Edited January 8, 2016 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Maybe people are spending to much time in school, do we need all these degrees to work these days. It is almost a conspiracy, that you cant get a good job with out a bunch of degrees, that forces you to stay in school longer and IMO the longer you stay the more stupid you become. I'm pushing sixty and the state will require me, once again, to take six months off work and spend about $10,000 if I want to keep doing what I've been doing all my life. I call it the certification-industrial complex and I'm grist for it's mill. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
GostHacked Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 I'm pushing sixty and the state will require me, once again, to take six months off work and spend about $10,000 if I want to keep doing what I've been doing all my life. I call it the certification-industrial complex and I'm grist for it's mill. I feel the same way in IT. To retain some of the certs and keep them up to date costs a good amount of money. Quote
eyeball Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) It generates a lot of revenue as well for instructors and given the certifiers I've seen showing up as instructors and visa versa I smell a revolving door of quid pro quo. It's pretty easy to keep driving the process with public fear and the perception that the government must do something to protect the public. Edited January 9, 2016 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
cybercoma Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 When will white men ever be heard. It must be so awful suffering in silence. Quote
dialamah Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 When will white men ever be heard. It must be so awful suffering in silence. Maybe there can be some kind of affirmative action so that white men have the opportunity to be in politics and heads of corporations, and maybe in the media as well. That might help eh? Quote
cybercoma Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Maybe there can be some kind of affirmative action so that white men have the opportunity to be in politics and heads of corporations, and maybe in the media as well. That might help eh?They're really underrepresented. It's a damn shame. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 When will white men ever be heard. It must be so awful suffering in silence. Is this in reference to anything ? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
jacee Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) This fear has habituated many Western leaders in their frailty to speak the unvarnished truth about the need for the refugees and immigrants welcomed into these societies to fully integrate in them. It is not about changing ones religion or bleaching ones skin to make it paler. It is about learning the moral, ethical, social and political anchors that, in this case, Canada is rooted in. We've drifted far from Argus' topic of 'immigrants need to integrate'.Or have we? Perhaps all of us immigrants could have done a better job of integrating and respecting the Indigenous cultures upon arrival. . Edited January 10, 2016 by jacee Quote
Smallc Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Perhaps all of us immigrants could have done a better job of integrating and respecting the Indigenous cultures upon arrival. . The reality is, this country was established without regard for them. That's how things were back then. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 We've drifted far from Argus' topic of 'immigrants need to integrate'. Or have we? Perhaps all of us immigrants could have done a better job of integrating and respecting the Indigenous cultures upon arrival. . I believe our ability to rid ourselves of xenophobia will be one true test of whether or not we are actually evolving. It seems we have a ways to go. Quote
eyeball Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 The reality is, this country was established without regard for them. That's how things were back then. Funny how things change over time. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
-TSS- Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Europe is committing suicide. This Trojan horse of the fakeugees is just a prelude to what is going to happen. So sad. I'm advicing all the youngsters I deal with to emigrate to palces such as Canada, the USA, Australia. I'm too old to move and where would I move from my home anyway. Quote
Argus Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 We've drifted far from Argus' topic of 'immigrants need to integrate'. That is not the topic. The topic is how shrill progressives shut down debate and substitute accusations and character assassination whenever anyone wants to talk about issues which make them feel uncomfortable. For example, discuss mass rape as a byproduct of the brutal misogyny of Muslim culture in the middle east and they'll accuse you of xenophobia rather than actually addressing the topic. This is because while they desperately want to defend rape and misogyny, they can't be seen to be doing so too openly. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 This is because while they desperately want to defend rape and misogyny, they can't be seen to be doing so too openly. Question to mods. Is "guffaw" acceptable in lieu of "bwahaha" in a case like this? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Charles Anthony Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 This is because while they desperately want to defend rape and misogyny, they can't be seen to be doing so too openly. Question to mods. Is "guffaw" acceptable in lieu of "bwahaha" in a case like this? Alone, they are both considered VERY low content posts. We would probably nix them unless you were able to genuinely tie-in the humorous nature of the comment with the topic of this thread. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Hal 9000 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Alone, they are both considered VERY low content posts. We would probably nix them unless you were able to genuinely tie-in the humorous nature of the comment with the topic of this thread. Of course you know it wasn't a real inquiry though. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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