Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 Anti-Semitism is a bigger problem than Islamphobia.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 Are we still discussing Islamophobia in Canada? As if it's a pressing issue? I guess it might be a bit of an issue to you if you just arrived in Canada and someone rode by on a bike and squirted pepper spray in your face.
Shady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 I guess it might be a bit of an issue to you if you just arrived in Canada and someone rode by on a bike and squirted pepper spray in your face. I guess, if it happened even close to a lot. You'd have better luck being struck by lightening.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 I guess, if it happened even close to a lot. You'd have better luck being struck by lightening. In any case, I don't see or hear of a lot of antisemitism here, but then maybe I don't live where that's occurring.
Boges Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 In any case, I don't see or hear of a lot of antisemitism here, but then maybe I don't live where that's occurring. Except when our PM doesn't mention Jews when talking about the Holocaust.
Argus Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 I agree totally that some of the cultural practices in some countries are worrisome. Especially what I have seen myself in some of those countries, especially the poorer ones where, such as Afghanistan, where something like 80% of the people are illiterate. However I am also concerned how (some) people rush to judgement regarding the whole of the culture There are dozens of Muslim countries spread around the globe. Pick one where women are treated equally, both culturally and under the law. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jbg Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 Just a couple of days ago, a group of racist hateful lazy thinkers took it upon themselves to set fire to a mosque in Ontario. Today, a Muslim woman, on her way to pick up her kids from school, was jumped and beaten and told to go back to her country. In Quebec, someone posted a video declaring that one Arab a week will be killed. Simple people need the narrative to be made simple, so they can feel like they understand the situation. Their laziness prevents them from exploring who they are fearing. Usually they're too lazy and too conditioned to change their minds by looking at the facts, so they repeat the same misinformation that is fed to them. For these people, it's a lot easier when they can go into the "us vs them", "black vs white", and "Muslims vs West" mode rather than examining a complicated and multi-faceted situation. It's time for the quiet majority to speak out against these ignorant loud minority. The more we allow them to repeat their hate, the more it will become acceptable. The next time someone makes a racist or bigoted comment, call them on it. They need to be confronted. It would be really nice, but unrealistic, to expect that the majority of decent Muslims would isolate and marginalize the savages, the same way that Jews marginalized and isolated the Jewish Defense League in the 1970's and 1980's. Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
On Guard for Thee Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 There are dozens of Muslim countries spread around the globe. Pick one where women are treated equally, both culturally and under the law. What is much more important is to ensure they are treated equally if/when they seek refuge in this country. That includes the men as well.
WestCoastRunner Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 What is much more important is to ensure they are treated equally if/when they seek refuge in this country. That includes the men as well. Exactly, this thread is about Canada. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted February 4, 2016 Report Posted February 4, 2016 Exactly, this thread is about Canada. Yeah I do seem to recall it did say something about Canada somewhere. Oh yeah, like in the thread title. Islamophobia however,seems to not respect borders.
Hal 9000 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Has there been any actual "islamaphobia" in Canada beyond the pepper spray incident? The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
DogOnPorch Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Has there been any actual "islamaphobia" in Canada beyond the pepper spray incident? Was that even 'Islamophobia'? Who did that apparent drive-by? Was there an arrest? A questioning, even? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Exactly, this thread is about Canada. No, it's about Islamophobia, and whether or not being wary of importing hundreds of thousands of Muslims is something which is indication of sanity and wisdom, or a 'phobia'. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hal 9000 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Was that even 'Islamophobia'? Who did that apparent drive-by? Was there an arrest? A questioning, even? I don't know! But if this is just about Canada, I'm pretty sure I could make an easier case for "Godaphobia", " Christianaphobia" ...and even one of the most rampant phobias..."Harperaphobia". The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 No, it's about Islamophobia, and whether or not being wary of importing hundreds of thousands of Muslims is something which is indication of sanity and wisdom, or a 'phobia'. ww are talking about 50,000 refugees. Can we get real about this I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
GostHacked Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Seems to me you complain about a lot of things here rather than 'taking our politicians to task'. You might be right. I voted Green and got someone who is green (aka rookie). Taking them to task is useless anyways.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Was that even 'Islamophobia'? Who did that apparent drive-by? Was there an arrest? A questioning, even? All of the above if they find the perp. It's called assault, even if it's a brown person
On Guard for Thee Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 No, it's about Islamophobia, and whether or not being wary of importing hundreds of thousands of Muslims is something which is indication of sanity and wisdom, or a 'phobia'. Go up to the top of the page, read it, and get back to us.
eyeball Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Anyways...to address Islamophobia: Islamophobia today is akin to claiming Nazi-phobia as the Panzers cruised across France in 1940. That bird might have flown in 2002... No it isn't. Islamophobia today is more akin to the rhetorical crap Nazis spread about other people they didn't like Europe back then. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Anti-Semitism is a bigger problem than Islamphobia. It's the same problem actually. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Was that even 'Islamophobia'? Who did that apparent drive-by? Was there an arrest? A questioning, even? I guess if you have to ask if a guy driving by a load of Syrian refugees getting off a bus and assaulting them is islamophobia, you really should go spend some time trying to comprehend the term.
Argus Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 ww are talking about 50,000 refugees. Can we get real about this Canada takes in tens of thousands of Muslims every year quite aside from this group. Pakistan, one of the most brutally repressive religious cultures around, is one of our major sources for immigration. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 In any case, I don't see or hear of a lot of antisemitism here, but then maybe I don't live where that's occurring. Jewish Canadians, remarkably, are more than 10 times as likely to be the victim of a hate crime than Muslim Canadians I'm going to go out on a limb and guess most of those who commit anti-Semitic hate crimes are Muslims and progressives. http://www.the10and3.com/which-canadians-are-most-likely-to-be-the-victims-of-hate-crimes/ "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Jewish Canadians, remarkably, are more than 10 times as likely to be the victim of a hate crime than Muslim Canadians I'm going to go out on a limb and guess most of those who commit anti-Semitic hate crimes are Muslims and progressives. Yes I'd say you're definitely out on a limb alright. 1st of all the Muslims you hate he most are semites and anti-semitism is by far and away more closely associated with right-wing conservatives than liberals. Always has been and always will. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted February 5, 2016 Report Posted February 5, 2016 Yes I'd say you're definitely out on a limb alright. 1st of all the Muslims you hate he most are semites and anti-semitism is by far and away more closely associated with right-wing conservatives than liberals. Always has been and always will. Islam is a religion rather than a race of people. All three 'religions of the book' are from the same desert. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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