Michael Hardner Posted October 12, 2015 Report Posted October 12, 2015 http://www.680news.com/2015/10/12/california-governor-bans-public-schools-from-using-sports-mascot-offensive-to-native-americans/ LOS ANGELES, Calif. – Four California schools will be forced to change mascots after Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation barring public schools from using the Redskins name for sports teams. It's too bad that basic decency has to be mandated from above, but I'm glad that these archaic terms won't be used moving forward. Does anybody else have examples where community standards have needed to be imposed from above ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
sharkman Posted October 12, 2015 Report Posted October 12, 2015 If they have to be imposed from above, then they aren't community standards. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted October 12, 2015 Report Posted October 12, 2015 http://www.680news.com/2015/10/12/california-governor-bans-public-schools-from-using-sports-mascot-offensive-to-native-americans/ Does anybody else have examples where community standards have needed to be imposed from above ? BC women can go legally topless. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Ash74 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Posted October 12, 2015 BC women can go legally topless. As they all should have the right. But that does not mean all should go topless. Ugh Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
BubberMiley Posted October 12, 2015 Report Posted October 12, 2015 If they have to be imposed from above, then they aren't community standards. Yes, like bussing in Mississippi in the 1960s. I don't think integration meets their community standards even yet. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 Yes, like bussing in Mississippi in the 1960s. I don't think integration meets their community standards even yet. Or residential schools in British Columbia or Ontario....they didn't even get busing. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 sports teams... Edmonton Eskimos? Isn't 'Eskimo' considered derogatory? Quote
Big Guy Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 The team names should better represent issues of to-day. With the number of Muslims playing basketball perhaps the new team name should be the Toronto Terrorists. Kansas City football is known for its aggressiveness perhaps the Kansas City Kamikaze? How about Montreal Murderers, Winnipeg Wimps, Peterborough Patsies, Washington Weirdos, Ottawa Airheads and Victoria Vice. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
The_Squid Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 sports teams... Edmonton Eskimos? Isn't 'Eskimo' considered derogatory? Honestly, I don't know. Some references say it's considered derogatory, while some do not. But I am not the correct person to be asking. I notice that most of the team names that could be offensive are referencing First Nations in some manner. Perhaps they should be the ones to decide if the names are derogatory, or whether they simply are an homage to the symbolism that the name represents. Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 Honestly, I don't know. Some references say it's considered derogatory, while some do not. But I am not the correct person to be asking. I notice that most of the team names that could be offensive are referencing First Nations in some manner. Perhaps they should be the ones to decide if the names are derogatory, or whether they simply are an homage to the symbolism that the name represents. What about the Fla St Seminoles? It's not derogatory but the emblem could be seen as. Quote
The_Squid Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 What about the Fla St Seminoles? It's not derogatory but the emblem could be seen as. Same situation as Blackhawks, Braves, Red Skins, etc, etc Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Same situation as Blackhawks, Braves, Red Skins, etc, etc Braves/Redskins aren't tribes. It's the emblem with a warcrying Seminole that puts it over the edge. To me though if you're naming things and you only have A] Animals B] Forces of Nature or C] Natives to choose from it kind of tells me you aren't honouring them.....no matter how you put it. Edited October 13, 2015 by Bob Macadoo Quote
Hal 9000 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 These names weren't offensive to indians until we told them they should be. And, actually the name "Indian" is still acceptable in the USA. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Canada_First Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 sports teams... Edmonton Eskimos? Isn't 'Eskimo' considered derogatory? Inuit call themselves Eskimos. Quote
Big Guy Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I was wondering if Planters Peanuts Redskins were named after the aboriginal tribe or the football team. Found out they are called Redskins becasue they have red skins. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Boges Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Very offensive. Ditto with the Syracuse Orangemen. Edited October 16, 2015 by Boges Quote
The_Squid Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 Inuit call themselves Eskimos. cite please Quote
The_Squid Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Very offensive. Ditto with the Syracuse Orangemen. Irish is not a racial term. Do you not see the difference? Irish is like Canuck. How about a team called the Boges City Black-Freedom-Fighters with a logo of a caricature of a black person in shackles fighting back against the slavery system? Acceptable? A proper homage to oppressed black people who fought for their freedom? Edited October 16, 2015 by The_Squid Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Very offensive. Ditto with the Syracuse Orangemen. ..or Minnesota Vikings. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 Irish is not a racial term. Do you not see the difference? Irish is like Canuck. How about a team called the Boges City Black-Freedom-Fighters with a logo of a caricature of a black person in shackles fighting back against the slavery system? Acceptable? A proper homage to oppressed black people who fought for their freedom? It's not because of the ethnicity. It's the prefex Fighting that would be offensive if attached to an ethnicity that's not of a largely Caucasian nation. You mention Canucks. Not a whole lot different than calling a team Japs. Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 It's not because of the ethnicity. It's the prefex Fighting that would be offensive if attached to an ethnicity that's not of a largely Caucasian nation. You mention Canucks. Not a whole lot different than calling a team Japs. I agree as a wee child o' Eire; might have well said "Drunken Fighting....".....and yes I know it's a catholic school. Great campus though.....beautiful. I wonder if Deacons are offended by Wake Forest? Quote
Bryan Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 It's such a weird thing to get upset about. Most of the supposedly offensive racially derived names are actually paying homage to that race. Sports teams usually pick them because they symbolize strength. Quote
The_Squid Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 It's such a weird thing to get upset about. Most of the supposedly offensive racially derived names are actually paying homage to that race. Sports teams usually pick them because they symbolize strength. What do you think about my example? How about a team called the Boges City Black-Freedom-Fighters with a logo of a caricature of a black person in shackles fighting back against the slavery system? Acceptable? A proper homage to oppressed black people who fought for their freedom? Quote
Bryan Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 What do you think about my example? How about a team called the Boges City Black-Freedom-Fighters with a logo of a caricature of a black person in shackles fighting back against the slavery system? Acceptable? A proper homage to oppressed black people who fought for their freedom? It's a mixed message because it reminds people that those people can be dominated -- probably not what you're going for on the sports field. Quote
Big Guy Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 I still think the Ottawa Airheads should be considered for any team from any sport which wants to really represent Ottawa. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
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