Crime wave now spreads in US

[sharkman]

As a direct result of the media's crusade against cops, cops are now being surrounded and threatened any time they show up in certain communities across the US. Basic serve-and-protect police work can't be done, and arrests are way down, crime is way up.

Why is this happening? Because of those awful murders of black men, you say? Let's consider those. How many unlawful murders were there in the last year? 5? 7? Michael Brown was not one of them, but they mostly all have something in common. Refusing to be arrested, your basic resisting arrest. If they hadn't resisted, none of the following would have occurred.

But that's besides the point. The main point is, how many interactions occurred between cops and blacks across the U.S. in the same last year as the above deaths? 500,000? 700,000? The vast majority of the time, nothing bad happens, and that is a fact. Also a fact, the media has completely ignored this and has therefore failed to provide any context because it goes against their narrative/crusade. So basically, they're ignoring reality.

And then there is the inconvenient fact that they are ignoring white deaths, cop deaths(by comparison to the black deaths) and of course the long and sorted records and history of the blacks involved. But the end result of all this, something the media didn't see coming(though anyone with a brain and some scruples could deduce), is the resulting increase in crime. Way to go, meatheads.

EDIT: I named this thread "And So It Begins" for a reason. The mod has seen fit to change the name.

Edited June 7, 2015 by sharkman

[Topaz]

Well, from what I've seen and heard both the US and Canada are getting their police to wear cameras, which should solve a lot of problems.

[sharkman]

I'd like to think so, but they can be considered an intrusion on property rights. They can also be turned off if a bad cop wanted some "privacy".

[Shady]

It's complete policeaphobia. It's funny that with many more instances of Islamic terrorism, the media and the usual suspects go out of their way to tell us that it's not all Muslims or that the threat doesn't even exist. But when it's a few instances involving the police, it's a pattern of behaviour that needs to be addressed! The hypocrisy is rank.

[Shady]

If you point out the one, you're an islamaphobe. If you point out the other, you're a justified, victim.

[Je suis Omar]

I'd like to think so, but they can be considered an intrusion on property rights. They can also be turned off if a bad cop wanted some "privacy".

The memes are flying fast and furious here, Sharkman. With the usual suspects.

And that link, right out of the Fox hole.

[Freddy]

If you point out the one, you're an islamaphobe. If you point out the other, you're a justified, victim.

I think we are trying to apply rule of law as equally as we can, But don't realize that it's impossible. So we have Illogical double standards showing up everywhere. Maybe if we could admit it's beyond our capacity to make everything perfectly equal and fair, and accept our limits and realize we are only human. We would, all be better off.

This obsession with equalities and fairness is becoming so extreme, it's getting toxic for our own society. It looks great on paper, but in practice it's not feasible. At some point we all need to acknowledge that what we have is great, but it has it's limits.

Edited May 30, 2015 by Freddy

[sharkman]

It's complete policeaphobia. It's funny that with many more instances of Islamic terrorism, the media and the usual suspects go out of their way to tell us that it's not all Muslims or that the threat doesn't even exist. But when it's a few instances involving the police, it's a pattern of behaviour that needs to be addressed! The hypocrisy is rank.

That's an observation that the media at large is so guilty of. And since most people believe everything they see on TV, the result is a police force increasingly unable to protect society.

[sharkman]

The memes are flying fast and furious here, Sharkman. With the usual suspects.

And that link, right out of the Fox hole.

Here's another link for you. I didn't include it for the obvious reason. But no doubt it's a right wing vast conspiracy.

In Baltimore, the most pressing question every morning is how many people were shot the previous night. Gun violence is up more than 60% compared with this time last year, according to Baltimore police.

Edited May 30, 2015 by sharkman

[Freddy]

Maybe that's exactly what needs to happen for people to realize what's going on.

Stop policing completely until it's so bad people are begging you to police them.

[bush_cheney2004]

Maybe that's exactly what needs to happen for people to realize what's going on.

Stop policing completely until it's so bad people are begging you to police them.

That's right...let the fun begin. They'll be begging for more police, just like they did in Chicago.

[On Guard for Thee]

Let the police police, but lets make sure they know they are not above the laws they are meant to enforce, by charging them as well if they break them.

[Freddy]

Let the police police, but lets make sure they know they are not above the laws they are meant to enforce, by charging them as well if they break them.

How do you know when they are acting above the law or not? No one has any idea. Right now it a riot every time regardless if procedures were followed. So many people think this is black and white. It's not at all.

I stand by my statement. Let the crime spree begin.

I've said this several time. You have to take the good with the bad in this life.

If you don't like a thug getting shot once in awhile. Then live with the thugs crime every day. It's a obvious lack of being able to put things into perspective. If people aren't intelligent enough to understand give them what they are asking for.

Edited May 30, 2015 by Freddy

[eyeball]

As a direct result of the media's crusade against cops, cops are now being surrounded and threatened any time they show up in certain communities across the US.

Right on, about friggen time to.

Stand your ground America

[drummindiver]

Right on, about friggen time to.

Stand your ground America

Are we being Poe'd?

[On Guard for Thee]

How do you know when they are acting above the law or not? No one has any idea. Right now it a riot every time regardless if procedures were followed. So many people think this is black and white. It's not at all.

I stand by my statement. Let the crime spree begin.

I've said this several time. You have to take the good with the bad in this life.

If you don't like a thug getting shot once in awhile. Then live with the thugs crime every day. It's a obvious lack of being able to put things into perspective. If people aren't intelligent enough to understand give them what they are asking for.

Fairly simple. The same way a cop is supposed to know when someone else is acting above the law.

[sharkman]

It's not up to the cops if they are surrounded by 50 citizens shouting threats as soon as they show up. The citizens in these communities have foolishly decided that all cops are bad, and now innocents are being held up and shot up in significantly higher numbers.

[Freddy]

Fairly simple. The same way a cop is supposed to know when someone else is acting above the law.

For some reason it's not as easy as you seem to think because we haven't been able to produce that result anywhere on earth yet.band it's not from lack of trying.

Again I'll say it. Looks good on paper but it's not realistic. We keep trying that and it keeps not working. Maybe we should look into why that is.

Edited May 31, 2015 by Freddy

[On Guard for Thee]

For some reason it's not as easy as you seem to think because we haven't been able to produce that result anywhere on earth yet.

Again I'll say it. Looks good on paper but it's not realistic. We keep trying that and it keeps not working. Maybe we should look into why that is.

FFS! Could it be any clearer than this......

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/23/cleveland-officer-not-guilty-shot-137-times-police

[WestCoastRunner]

The citizens in these communities have foolishly decided that all cops are bad, and now innocents are being held up and shot up in significantly higher numbers.

Foolishly decided? I'm pretty sure they have evidence to back up their decisions.

[Freddy]

FFS! Could it be any clearer than this......

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/23/cleveland-officer-not-guilty-shot-137-times-police

He was found not guilty. So obviously your the one who is in misunderstanding.

[Freddy]

Foolishly decided? I'm pretty sure they have evidence to back up their decisions.

Why.... Do you think the community, know better then the judges of the court of law if the police acted within his rights as a police?

[On Guard for Thee]

He was found not guilty. So obviously your the one who is in misunderstanding.

OMG! You don't get the significance of 49 rounds through the windshield of a car holding 2 unarmed black people because it backfired! Cops are nearly always found not guilty in the States, if they even do get charged in the first place. So, the riots will carry on.

[sharkman]

Foolishly decided? I'm pretty sure they have evidence to back up their decisions.

Really? Well, they have the agenda driven "evidence" that the media outlets provide. But as I mentioned before, how many wrongful deaths occurred in the last year versus how many interactions occurred with the police in the same year? And we know that 100% of the those killed all started out by resisting arrest and had to be chased/collared/etc. That's hardly any evidence to throw the cops out of your neighbourhood over. And again, now the deaths/muggings/assaults are REALLY starting to add up. But they don't seem concerned about those, as long as it's black on black.

[WestCoastRunner]

Why.... Do you think the community, know better then the judges of the court of law if the police acted within his rights as a police?

Um, yes.