WestCoastRunner Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 i wasn't sure where to put this but I thought it would be great to give a shout out to the first female pilot of the f-35, Christine Mau. She was also part of the all women combat mission in Afghanistan in 2011. Well done! Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
poochy Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 This isn't really something new, women flying combat aircraft that is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeannie_Leavitt for example. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Posted May 7, 2015 This isn't really something new, women flying combat aircraft that is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeannie_Leavitt for example. Yea I get that. Your point? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Doesn't it demean women to trumpet every small act as if it's some kind of great accomplishment? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Posted May 7, 2015 Doesn't it demean women to trumpet every small act as if it's some kind of great accomplishment? This is no small act. And why on earth would it be demeaning to women to call it out? She is the first woman. It is a great accomplishment. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
-1=e^ipi Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Doesn't it demean women to trumpet every small act as if it's some kind of great accomplishment? She was born with a vagina. Therefore accomplishment according to WestCoastRunner. She is the first woman. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Posted May 7, 2015 She was born with a vagina. Therefore accomplishment according to WestCoastRunner. Right. You miss the whole point that she is the first female to pilot a F-35. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 This is no small act. People fly planes all the time. Even women, believe it or not. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) She was born with a vagina. Therefore accomplishment according to WestCoastRunner.You guys seem more hell bent on distracting female accomplishments. That's ok with me except I'm going to broadcast these accomplishments to my daughters and future grand daughters. Do you guys have a problem with this? Should I not mention these female accomplishments in a male dominated industry? What if one of my daughters wanted to be a fighter pilot? Should I ignore this rather fabulous milestone? Edited May 7, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Shady Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I think that the real shout out should go to her for participating in combat missions in Afghanistan. That's impressive. Quote
eyeball Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 What if one of my daughters wanted to be a fighter pilot? Should I ignore this rather fabulous milestone? I would if mine wanted to join some Coalition's squadron of fighter pilots on yet another economic/geo-strategic Crusade. That's pretty unlikely though given her upbringing. There's just nothing worth being proud of here that I can see. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCoastRunner Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Posted May 7, 2015 I would if mine wanted to join some Coalition's squadron of fighter pilots on yet another economic/geo-strategic Crusade. That's pretty unlikely though given her upbringing. There's just nothing worth being proud of here that I can see. The accomplishment is that it represents a huge milestone for women to achieve whatever goals they desire no matter the male denomination. You don't need to be proud of the specific goals yours daughters achieve. It's the fact that many more opportunities open up for them. If your daughter decides to engage in warfare by piloting a f-35, that is her choice. And that is the beauty of this accomplishment. She gets to decide. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
-1=e^ipi Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 You guys seem more hell bent on distracting female accomplishments. It's a human accomplishment. Congratulations to the individual on her accomplishments. The gender/sex of the person seems irrelevant though. Do you guys have a problem with this? No, but I have a bit of a problem with your constant gynocentric attitude. Should I not mention these female accomplishments in a male dominated industry? If a male succeeds in a female dominated area such as elementary school teaching, nursing, or now simply being a university student, do we go 'omg, congratulations on succeeding in a female dominated area!'? Not really. So why the double standard? What if one of my daughters wanted to be a fighter pilot? Then let her be a pilot. Why does her gender/sex have anything to do with it? Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 The accomplishment is that it represents a huge milestone for women to achieve whatever goals they desire no matter the male denomination. Would you say the same thing if you replaced women with men and male with female? If not, why the double standard. But I guess females deserve more praise for similar accomplishments as males. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Right. You miss the whole point that she is the first female to pilot a F-35. Likewise Lt.Col. Mau, based on her initial transition into the F-35 program, combat record and rank, will be an odds on favorite to command one of the first operational F-35 squadrons. Well done. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Should I not mention these female accomplishments in a male dominated industry? What if one of my daughters wanted to be a fighter pilot? Should I ignore this rather fabulous milestone? I don't think so, but then, I'm biased.......my own daughter will start basic flight with the RCAF next Summer........something her family is very proud of, likewise I'm sure Christine Mau's family is. Quote
Guest Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 i wasn't sure where to put this but I thought it would be great to give a shout out to the first female pilot of the f-35, Christine Mau. She was also part of the all women combat mission in Afghanistan in 2011. Well done! Agreed. Good to see. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 I tip my hat to anyone who is brave enough to fly one of those crates. Hopefully they never have to do it in combat. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Posted May 8, 2015 It's a human accomplishment. Congratulations to the individual on her accomplishments. The gender/sex of the person seems irrelevant though. No, but I have a bit of a problem with your constant gynocentric attitude. If a male succeeds in a female dominated area such as elementary school teaching, nursing, or now simply being a university student, do we go 'omg, congratulations on succeeding in a female dominated area!'? Not really. So why the double standard? Then let her be a pilot. Why does her gender/sex have anything to do with it? If you have a problem with my whatever....let it go Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Ash74 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 I don't think so, but then, I'm biased.......my own daughter will start basic flight with the RCAF next Summer........something her family is very proud of, likewise I'm sure Christine Mau's family is. Congrads. That is something too be very proud of. Her and your family should be very proud of such an accomplishment. I wish her the very best. Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
Bonam Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 i wasn't sure where to put this but I thought it would be great to give a shout out to the first female pilot of the f-35, Christine Mau. She was also part of the all women combat mission in Afghanistan in 2011. Well done! Congrats to her! Great achievement for anyone, as many of the top pilots in the US compete for the chance to fly the F-35. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Anyone succeeding outside of what used to be traditional roles helps to remove old barriers and moves us forward. Good going I say. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 I think it's great the a woman can fly a fighter jet, but I'm more proud of women (or anyone else) whose accomplishments are truly their own. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Derek 2.0 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Congrads. That is something too be very proud of. Her and your family should be very proud of such an accomplishment. I wish her the very best. Thank you, yes we're all very proud, especially my 84 year old, former RN & RCN FAA pilot, father. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 It's odd to me that people protest the celebration of yet another milestone in gender equality. This event marks an important advance in freedom for people, why wouldn't we toast such a thing ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
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