Big Guy Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 Our fearless leader, Stephen Harper, has just decided that Canada is about to go to war against Syria. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/Canadian-warplanes-will-face-unique-challenges-in-Syrian-skies/article23678326/ For those who challenge that statement, I suggest that Canadian airplanes will be flying into the air space of a sovereign nation, member of the United Nations, and drop bombs and/or use other armaments against people on the ground on Syrian land. This is being done without the permission or request of the Syrian government. If that is not a declaration of war then I do not know what would be. This guy is going to get us so deep into this quagmire it will take us many Canadian lives, years and $billions to crawl out of this hole he is digging for us. God Bless America! God Help Canada! Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Topaz Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 Tories have been asked the endgame, what happens when ISIS is no longer a problem, no one really answers but I sure that the US want the leader of Syria gone, so a regime change is coming. Where do they go next, Russia, China, North Korea or Iran?? Quote
marcus Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 When there are no wars, weapons don't get used and money is not made by the military industrial complex. Each of the missiles fired by the jets cost $1,000,000. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 When there are no wars, weapons don't get used and money is not made by the military industrial complex. Ummm...no...that's not how it works. Weapons systems are routinely developed, deployed, and de-commissioned with or without "wars". Lots of money is still "made by the military industrial complex". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 ...For those who challenge that statement, I suggest that Canadian airplanes will be flying into the air space of a sovereign nation, member of the United Nations, and drop bombs.... Yep...just like Canada did in 1991 (Iraq), 1999 (Serbia/Kosovo), and 2011 (Libya). Thanks for the update..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 Ummm...no...that's not how it works. Weapons systems are routinely developed, deployed, and de-commissioned with or without "wars". Lots of money is still "made by the military industrial complex". You're right. Much more money is to be made when there are wars. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
overthere Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 I imagine President Assad is quivering in fear at the thought of six F-18s bombing his enemies -one bunch of his myriad of enemies-far from Damascus. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
GostHacked Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 I imagine President Assad is quivering in fear at the thought of six F-18s bombing his enemies -one bunch of his myriad of enemies-far from Damascus. He is not scared of the NATO backed FSA, or ISIS. So I really do not think he is too concerned about us Canucks. Quote
Shady Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 No Canada isn't at war with Syria. Assad has invited air strikes against Isis by other coalition members, Canada would be the same. The OP clearly doesn't have his facts straight. But when it comes to the rabid anti-Harper types, facts don't matter. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 30, 2015 Report Posted March 30, 2015 No Canada isn't at war with Syria. Assad has invited air strikes against Isis by other coalition members, Canada would be the same. The OP clearly doesn't have his facts straight. But when it comes to the rabid anti-Harper types, facts don't matter. Right, facts did not get in the way of Bush bombing Iraq. Let's roll. Quote
Big Guy Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Posted March 31, 2015 To Shady - I am not familiar with any information of Assad asking for or permitting air strikes against ISIS on Syrian territory. I would assume that would cover "inviting". Please direct me to your source. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Bob Macadoo Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 To Shady - I am not familiar with any information of Assad asking for or permitting air strikes against ISIS on Syrian territory. I would assume that would cover "inviting". Please direct me to your source. .....it was in his 60 Minutes interview...you missed it? [/sarcasm] Quote
eyeball Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 No Canada isn't at war with Syria.A dereliction that I'm quite certain would cause my Grand-Pappies to squirm in their graves....now that we're going to start bombing Assad's enemies they'll probably start spinning in their graves at high velocity.This is one of Canada's more disgraceful days. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Rue Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Disgraceful? When Toronto Maple Leaf fans felt that way in the past they covered their faces. Your colleagues believe its an acceptable practice to cover one's face so maybe you can hide your shame that way. Now me, I find it something I think is the result of a leader feeling he has a moral duty to stop terrorists. Disgraceful? Yes using your logic there is grace in allowing ISIS to kill and maim. . Edited March 31, 2015 by Rue Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 No Canada isn't at war with Syria. Assad has invited air strikes against Isis by other coalition members, Canada would be the same. The OP clearly doesn't have his facts straight. But when it comes to the rabid anti-Harper types, facts don't matter. You are right in one small detail...Canada is not at war with Syria, but it will soon be at war IN Syria. Beyond that it was not formally asked in, and therefore we could well be breaking international law. Beyond that, Harper has no friggin idea what he is doing with regard to deciding when the job will be deemed to be done. Hell his minister of defence and his CDS cant even agree on what the scope of the mission is. This has disaster written all over it. Quote
eyeball Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Disgraceful? When Toronto Maple Leaf fans felt that way in the past they covered their faces. Your colleagues believe its an acceptable practice to cover one's face so maybe you can hide your shame that way. Now me, I find it something I think is the result of a leader feeling he has a moral duty to stop terrorists. Disgraceful? Yes using your logic there is grace in allowing ISIS to kill and maim. . I've got nothing to hide. And it's the disgraceful sort of logic you're famous for that inspires the ISIL's of the world. Disgraceful? On second thought, disgusting is more like it. Edited March 31, 2015 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Shady Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 To Shady - I am not familiar with any information of Assad asking for or permitting air strikes against ISIS on Syrian territory. I would assume that would cover "inviting". Please direct me to your source. Asking and permitting are two very different things. Syria Given Information About U.S.-Led Airstrikes Against ISIS: Assad The U.S.-led coalition battling ISIS militants is passing information about airstrikes to the Syrian regime through third parties including Iraq, according to President Bashar Assad. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/syria-given-information-about-u-s-led-airstrikes-against-isis-n303381 Canada may be at war IN Syria, but not WITH Syria. Your original post is factually incorrect, and misleading. Quote
Shady Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 You are right in one small detail...Canada is not at war with Syria, but it will soon be at war IN Syria. Beyond that it was not formally asked in, and therefore we could well be breaking international law. Beyond that, Harper has no friggin idea what he is doing with regard to deciding when the job will be deemed to be done. Hell his minister of defence and his CDS cant even agree on what the scope of the mission is. This has disaster written all over it.Assad would have to be the one to publicly insist that such strikes stop, and that international law is being broken. Regardless, your claim of disaster is absurdity. No such disaster. Missions will be flown, they will end. Canada will go home in a short while. Overblown bluster and hyperbole not withstanding. Quote
eyeball Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Asking and permitting are two very different things. Syria Given Information About U.S.-Led Airstrikes Against ISIS: Assad The U.S.-led coalition battling ISIS militants is passing information about airstrikes to the Syrian regime through third parties including Iraq, according to President Bashar Assad. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/syria-given-information-about-u-s-led-airstrikes-against-isis-n303381 Canada may be at war IN Syria, but not WITH Syria. Your original post is factually incorrect, and misleading. That's right, we're allied WITH the filthy disgusting bastards. Edited March 31, 2015 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
On Guard for Thee Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 Assad would have to be the one to publicly insist that such strikes stop, and that international law is being broken. Regardless, your claim of disaster is absurdity. No such disaster. Missions will be flown, they will end. Canada will go home in a short while. Overblown bluster and hyperbole not withstanding. You havent read up on international law. To be legal Assad would need to formally ask Canada in under duty to protect. That hasnt happened of course. Harper has committed Canada for up to another year. I wouldnt call that a short time especially when they cant even decide what the mission is. If its the destruction of ISIS, and you think that can be done is a short time, you either dont know how these things work or you are dreaming. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 For those who challenge that statement, I suggest that Canadian airplanes will be flying into the air space of a sovereign nation, member of the United Nations, and drop bombs and/or use other armaments against people on the ground on Syrian land. This is being done without the permission or request of the Syrian government. Is it a fact that we don't have permission from Syrian government to do this? If so, yes it's war. One of the biggest foreign policy blunders by Obama was turning against the Assad regime. Annoying dictators are better than Islamist extremists. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Shady Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 You havent read up on international law. To be legal Assad would need to formally ask Canada in under duty to protect. That hasnt happened of course. Harper has committed Canada for up to another year. I wouldnt call that a short time especially when they cant even decide what the mission is. If its the destruction of ISIS, and you think that can be done is a short time, you either dont know how these things work or you are dreaming.Well if that's the case, Obama has already broken international law. I believe the British have as well. Possibly even Jordan. I guess Harper's slow to the dance. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 With this mission extension and expansion it's very likely terrorist threats within Canada will increase. More attacks to come in the near future? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 Well if that's the case, Obama has already broken international law. I believe the British have as well. Possibly even Jordan. I guess Harper's slow to the dance. Possibly. But at least Obama had the brains to work through the UN with reference to article 51. Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 Possibly. But at least Obama had the brains to work through the UN with reference to article 51. .....coat tails.....coat tails. Quote
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