21 Christians killed by ISIS.

[sharkman]

Last week they burned alive a pilot, this week they murder 21 reported as Coptic Christians. While the world seems to be hoping that ISIS burns itself out, the fire only consumes more and more.

The killings raise the possibility that the extremist group — which controls about a third of Syria and Iraq in a self-declared caliphate — has established an affiliate less than 800 kilometres from the southern tip of Italy. One of the militants in the video said the group now plans to "conquer Rome."

Warning, I do not know what the video contains, and I suggest you proceed with caution.

[Guest]

At least the Egyptians acted accordingly, like the Jordanians did.

[sharkman]

Is that going to stop ISIS?

[Mighty AC]

The feature What ISIS Really Wants by Graeme Wood from the March edition of The Atlantic is worth reading.

[Guest]

Is that going to stop ISIS?

Probably not stop all of them. No doubt it stopped a few.

Edited February 17, 2015 by bcsapper

[Topaz]

Have you ever wondered how a "terrorists group" can out power the US, which many have called a "super power" yet NATO and this super power can't take out a terrorists group???? Who is supporting these terrorists with weapons and money and why does do governments allow the media to even show these beheadings and give them free press???

[Michael Hardner]

Have you ever wondered how a "terrorists group" can out power the US, which many have called a "super power" yet NATO and this super power can't take out a terrorists group????

No - they aren't "out powering" the US, they are using guerilla warfare:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_guerrilla_warfare

[Topaz]

One of the US republican radio program I was listening to said that the problem with the war in the Middle-East is that the US people only want war on a "timeline" and are not interested in fighting until the war is won but I don't think any nation can keep fighting financially, until the war is won. Canada has spent 18 Billion in Afghanistan and we are up 200 million against ISIS.

[GostHacked]

No - they aren't "out powering" the US, they are using guerilla warfare:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_guerrilla_warfare

They are already out powering the USA. War on Terror .. failed. They exist and are getting bigger.

Edited February 17, 2015 by GostHacked

[Shady]

They are already out powering the USA. War on Terror .. failed. They exist and are getting bigger.

Complete nonsense. The US has barely anyone on the actual ground in that area, and has only flown a few bombing missions. ISIS will love your propaganda though!

[Boges]

ISIS is doing a great job making enemies of surrounding Muslim states.

If they keep this up, the West won't need to intervene.

[kimmy]

ISIS is doing a great job making enemies of surrounding Muslim states.

If they keep this up, the West won't need to intervene.

ISIS is creating unity by being so despicable that everybody agrees they need to be killed.

It's kind of like "Mothers and daughters reunited by hatred of Homer Simpson".

-k

[cybercoma]

I still say we drop bombs filled with pig blood on them.

[cybercoma]

Bury them in mass graves filled with pig corpses.

[Michael Hardner]

I feel a need to remind people of the usefulness of the <sarcasm> tag...

[Wilber]

Have you ever wondered how a "terrorists group" can out power the US, which many have called a "super power" yet NATO and this super power can't take out a terrorists group???? Who is supporting these terrorists with weapons and money and why does do governments allow the media to even show these beheadings and give them free press???

I haven't seen any of these beheadings shown on mainstream media. They all report them but none I've seen have shown them.

Edited February 17, 2015 by Wilber

[Boges]

Bury them in mass graves filled with pig corpses.

That would be an immoral waste of bacon.

[cybercoma]

I wasn't being sarcastic. Those who would terrorize and kill innocent civilians deserve neither the dignity nor respect of the articles of war. If pigs blood is unclean to them and they have a religious belief that it would bar them from their rewards in the afterlife, we should be bathing these animals in the blood of pigs and burying their corpses with the carcasses of those pigs we bled. If it's a holy war that they want, then we should oblige them.

[cybercoma]

That would be an immoral waste of bacon.

Well, we should keep the bacon. Let's not be wasteful here.

[Mighty AC]

If it's a holy war that they want, then we should oblige them.

If only the gods were capable of fighting their own battles. Impotent omnipotence. (That would make a good song title)

[overthere]

If only the gods were capable of fighting their own battles. Impotent omnipotence. (That would make a good song title)

If only Europe had the spine to battle at all.

[The_Squid]

"Europe" has more equipment involved in the fighting than Canada...

[bush_cheney2004]

Yea...but Canada has "soft power"...and peacekeepers ! And don't forget about Justin's blankets.

[WIP]

Is that going to stop ISIS?

Nothing will stop ISIS and salve your faux outrage of the moment when the U.S. is secretly training them and sending weapons to ISIS camps in Syria:

Image: Implausible deniability - "accidental" airdrops of weapons to ISIS

militants, and now torrents of cash being routed through the allegedly

unwitting US are but a few examples of how the West's "accidental" support

props up the only organization in Syria capable of fighting its proxy war

against Damascus for it. So many coincidences add up to concerted

conspiracy.

January 30, 2015 (Tony Cartalucci - NEO) - Once again, another "coincidence" appears to be contributing to the so-called "Islamic State's" (ISIS) resilience and vast resources. A recent investigation being conducted by Pakistani security forces involving a captured ISIS fighter has revealed that he and many fighters alongside him, received funds that were routed through the US.

The Express Tribune, an affiliate of the New York Times, recently reported in an article titled, "Startling revelations: IS operative confesses to getting funds via US," that:

The Tribune would also reveal that the findings of the investigations were being shared with the United States. The source cited by the Tribune suggested a compelling theory as to why the US has attempted to portray itself as "at war with ISIS," stating:

Indeed, the story reveals several troubling aspects regarding ISIS' operations in Syria. First, Al Salafi's ability to effortlessly enter into Syria through NATO-member Turkey, then escape back to Pakistan, again, via Turkey once again confirms that the source of ISIS' strength is not captured Syrian oil fields or ransoms paid in exchange for hostages, but rather from a torrent of fighters, arms, equipment, and cash flowing from NATO territory in Turkey.

Second - the US does indeed claim to be at war with "ISIS," going as far as unilaterally bombing Syrian territory while claiming it must now train more militants not only to topple the Syrian government, but now also to fight ISIS - yet appears incapable of stopping torrents of cash flowing from its own borders into the hands of its implacable enemy. A similar conundrum presented itself amid the recent Paris killings, where France too is participating in military operations aimed at both toppling the Syrian government and allegedly fighting ISIS - yet claims to be unable to stop thousands of its own citizens from leaving its borders to join ISIS' ranks.

The All-Selectively-Seeing Eyes of American Surveillance

Finally, now that the US is reportedly aware that money destined for ISIS has been routed through its own borders, surely it can leverage its massive and continuously growing surveillance state to identify where the money originated from. The individuals, organization, or government that provided the funds can then suffer the same fate other "state sponsors of terrorism" have suffered at the hands of US foreign policy, including sanctions, invasion, and occupation.

“The US had to dispel the impression that it is financing the group for its own interests and that is why it launched offensive against the organisation in Iraq but not in Syria,” he added.“The US has been condemning the IS activities but unfortunately has not been able to stop funding of these organisations, which is being routed through the US,” a source said.

So, any chance they are doing the same damn thing in Libya? Good luck putting out the fires, when your military and secret services are starting the blazes! Same thing goes in Libya.....which I am surprised is one of the few topics right wing xenophobes NEVER criticize Obama for! Well, actually some rightwingers do...typically the isolationist 'fortress america' types, but they don't get any more attention than the "far left" media, because they are not favoured by mainstream rightwing media that wants to promote more wars and war&security spending. So while typical right wing media could only yack on and on about Benghazi, New American at least presented the larger story in context:

Wednesday, 18 September 2013

Chaos Reigns After Obama Gave Libya to Jihadists; Syria May Be Next

Now, it appears to analysts as though the disaster afflicting Libya — brought about in large part by the Obama administration and its allies in Europe and among Islamic autocracies — may be on the verge of being replicated in Syria. Of course, the countries and the wars are different in some respects, but the parallels between what is going on in Syria and what happened in Libya are undeniable. And those links are raising alarm bells — especially considering the sizeable Syrian Christian population and the current state of affairs in Libya, which continues to deteriorate.

In Libya, as The New American documented extensively, the Obama administration decided to openly side with leaders of al-Qaeda and other jihadist groups — many of which boasted publicly during the conflict that they had recently been fighting against American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Dictator Moammar Gadhafi, who served as a key U.S. government ally in its terror war until falling out of favor, was eventually brutalized and summarily executed after his regime was pounded into the ground by Obama-backed jihadist rebels and overwhelming American air power.

So, after deposing the former ally - Colonel Gadaffi and allowing chaos to be unleashed in Libya, who is most to blame for ISIS coming in and setting up operations, taking advantage of the chaos? If the Obama Administration decided that deposing Gadaffi was a good idea, then they are responsible for ensuring the security of minorities....like these Coptic Christians, and the hundreds of immigrant workers from Sub-Sahel Africa who were murdered earlier on, after the fall of the Gadaffi regime! But, you didn't care about those massacres....or at least you never considered those lives important.

[GostHacked]

WIP, some good points there. So what really happened in Benghazi? !!!!!!