Rue Posted October 2, 2015 Report Posted October 2, 2015 So to summarize; 1-read only Al Braziere as your source of news 2-let Putin handle ISIS alone and ignore all other terrorists 3-ally with Iran Sounds great. I mean who needs a Canadian government. Just let Putin run our country too. Really its oh so simple. Quote I come to you to hell.
Rue Posted October 2, 2015 Report Posted October 2, 2015 Russia has entered in the air war to kill anti Assad rebels. ISIL is a cover. Really its oh so simple. Quote I come to you to hell.
dre Posted October 2, 2015 Report Posted October 2, 2015 Russia has entered in the air war to kill anti Assad rebels. ISIL is a cover. Really its oh so simple. Yup it IS pretty simple, and it also makes good sense. You cannot topple the Assad regime without helping ISIL, and he isnt going anywhere in the near future. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Big Guy Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Posted October 6, 2015 This war against ISIS is not going well, expanding into Yemen and is becoming even more bizarre: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/isil-claim-bombing-coalition-base-yemen-aden-151006144810019.html Al Jazeera's Hashem Ahelbarra said the claim of responsibility by ISIL marked the start of "strange scenario" in Yemen. "On one hand we have government forces and the Saudi-led coalition fighting the Houthis, and now you have ISIL fighting the government and Houthi forces," Ahelbarra said. "You'll have the (southern) secessionists fighting al-Qaeda, and ISIL fighting al-Qaeda at the same time...It will be a complete nightmare scenario in the near future." "In 2014 ISIL emerged saying that they were there to defend Sunnis who had been undermined by the Shia...they were present in the capital Sanaa but now they're trying to build a platform in the south." Canada still want to be involved in that mess? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Posted October 7, 2015 It appears that Russia is getting serious about its involvement in Syria. Putin is bringing in the big guns from the navy: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/russian-warships-join-syria-war-rocket-attacks-151007124347980.html "In addition to the air force, four warships of the Caspian flotilla have been involved," Shoigu said, adding that the warships had carried out 26 cruise missile strikes against 11 targets. With an increasing involvement of Putin, Assad appears to be here to stay for a while. I have no idea why Canadian airplanes are there at this time. Anybody with an explanation? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
The_Squid Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 Anybody with an explanation? Because Harper ... It's the absolute least we could do in order to say that we're doing "something" and Harper gets to say "fighting terrorists" 50 times per day... sheer stupidity. Quote Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.
GostHacked Posted October 7, 2015 Report Posted October 7, 2015 Russia has entered in the air war to kill anti Assad rebels. ISIL is a cover. Really its oh so simple. NATO has been supporting terrorism against Syria from the start of this 'civil war', funny there is no mention of that. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
eyeball Posted October 8, 2015 Report Posted October 8, 2015 It's bloody hilarious listening to White House spokespeople warning that Russia is being dragged into a quagmire. So I wonder how the first collateral damage incident between Russia and the US will go? Pass the popcorn. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Topaz Posted October 8, 2015 Report Posted October 8, 2015 Last night on coasttocoast.com, George had on a former former Vet from the Nam era and who went to work for corp. WORLD and he said as u will read that Russia, China and Iran, are the ones fighting US made ISIS and in one week killed off 40% of them and that China has a war ship in the Caspian Sea and Iran is sending their troops to fight ISIS and that US could find itself in WW3 depending how it handles the situation. Hulet, also said that the elite running the new world order, which Putin is totally against, by Hulet, are the corp. oligarchy, which many of the callers , vets from Nam and ME war agreed with him. He also said the Russia told Israel to stand down and stay out of the Syria conflict. Hulet also said that the top 500 companies don't care about any citizens, even in the US, they only care about the money and they have homes around the world were they can go if war comes to the US and I suppose Canada. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2015/10/07 Quote
Big Guy Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) So now it is official. Iraq liaises with Syria, Russia and Iran to bomb ISIL: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/iraq-syria-russia-iran-isil-151014061134849.html A few years ago, the Americans invaded Iraq looking for non existent Weapons Of Mass Destruction. The social structure was destroyed and American puppets were placed in a positon to govern. OOPS! The West poured $trillions in military hardware and suffered thousands of casualties to allow Iraqi's the freedom of choice. Well, Iraq finally got their freedom of choice and have now joined the Syrian, Iran and Russian alliance. So the Americans are again facing folks who are opposing them with American gifted weapons. So, in the skies over Syria, we have airpower from Iraq, America, Canada, Iran, Russia, France, Syria and Turkey. Fortunately, ISIS has no air force and cannot ignite an air war where absolute chaos would reign. Canada, the first thing the next government does has to be to get Canada out of the fiasco in the Middle East. We are being played like a fine, fine fiddle. Edited October 14, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted October 20, 2015 Author Report Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) The situation over Syria is becoming a bad joke. There have been a few near misses by aircraft from various countries. Fortunately, Syrian rebels (good guys) and ISIS (bad guys) have no airplanes so it is only the outsiders who have to get their schedules straight. It has been reported that there are negotiations taking place so Russian and American airplanes will not be in the same airspace at the same time. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/20/us-mideast-crisis-syria-latakia-idUSKCN0SE0M420151020 So, at 1 p.m., the Americans fly in and drop bombs on Assad and ISIS fighters on the ground and drop military equipment to the Syrian rebels. They then clear the area. Then at 3 p.m. Russians and Assad planes fly in dropping bombs on ISIS and the Syrian rebels. They then clear the area. Then at 5 p.m. ... Not sure if/when Canadians take their turns and who they are going to bomb. If this wasn't so tragic it would be funny. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/united-states-pentagon-russia-sign-deal-avoid-air-clashes-syria-isil-151020211246526.html Hey Trudeau, make your first priority to get our people and airplanes out of that fiasco before they get killed by mistake. Edited October 21, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Posted October 26, 2015 Tony Blair, the PM of Britain when it went into Iraq and ousted Saddam has changed his mind: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/world/europe/tony-blair-says-iraq-war-helped-give-rise-to-isis.html?_r=0 "Tony Blair Says Iraq War Helped Give Rise to ISIS". He now thinks it was a mistake. But what does he know. There are posters on here who know a lot more and better than Blair - just ask them. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 I bet way deep down these posters always knew Blair was a typical lefty...probably even eats French cheese. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 With Russia and the US openly fighting on and for opposite sides in a civil war with ships in the water planes in the air and now troops on the ground, the warblings of concern about a new Cold War-like proxy-war or worse emanating from diplomatic and governing classes is a little rich. Excuse me but a NEW proxy war? Shut the front door! As I see it, it's about time these two old warrior-idiots finally faced each other down once and for all. They truly both deserve a real belly full of the horror they've been allowed to offload on their hapless proxies since the end of WW2. As for the rest of us we deserve the risk of this escalating and consuming us too, as it most assuredly will. We should have been standing shoulder to shoulder square in the face of these sphincters decades ago. If they refuse to bury the hatchet between them they should bloody well get on with burying it as deeply as possible in each other and rid the world and history of themselves once and for all. If we go down with them, we really have no one but ourselves to blame, we knew the risks of staying in bed with them. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 ....As I see it, it's about time these two old warrior-idiots finally faced each other down once and for all. They truly both deserve a real belly full of the horror they've been allowed to offload on their hapless proxies since the end of WW2. Great idea...let's go back to the "bellies full of horror" before the "end of WW2" to preserve Throne and Empire ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
eyeball Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 No need to go back, just belly on over to Syria. There's Empires aplenty - as far as the eye can see on a clear day. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 No need to go back, just belly on over to Syria. There's Empires aplenty - as far as the eye can see on a clear day. "Syria" is residue from your Great Empire....enjoy it...then have some tea. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
Bonam Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 As I see it, it's about time these two old warrior-idiots finally faced each other down once and for all. They truly both deserve a real belly full of the horror they've been allowed to offload on their hapless proxies since the end of WW2. As for the rest of us we deserve the risk of this escalating and consuming us too, as it most assuredly will. Do you say these things just to try to be outrageous or because you actually look forward to the deaths of millions-billions of people? Man this forum is nuts these days. Quote
eyeball Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 Do you say these things just to try to be outrageous or because you actually look forward to the deaths of millions-billions of people? Man this forum is nuts these days. No, I think it's mostly just spite. It rots my socks that so many millions of people have to suffer slowly over generations so we can gladly suffer these freaking super-fools. Speaking of nuts I take it you don't subscribe to the idea that more civilized countries should sever diplomatic or economic ties with Russia and the US until they clean up their acts and start getting with the program. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Bonam Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 No, I think it's mostly just spite. It rots my socks that so many millions of people have to suffer slowly over generations so we can gladly suffer these freaking super-fools. Speaking of nuts I take it you don't subscribe to the idea that more civilized countries should sever diplomatic or economic ties with Russia and the US until they clean up their acts and start getting with the program. More people live better today than at any other time in history, by just about any metric. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 More people live better today than at any other time in history, by just about any metric. Yep....by any measure. Funny how that fact escapes the end of time gloom and doomers. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Â
eyeball Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 More people live better today than at any other time in history, by just about any metric.Ether for the conscience. More proxy wars should make the world an even better place. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 Yep....by any measure. Funny how that fact escapes the end of time gloom and doomers. What's funny is this argument that human happiness is dependent on deliberately making humans suffer. The more suffering there is the more happiness there should be right? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Big Guy Posted November 1, 2015 Author Report Posted November 1, 2015 So the USA is putting boots on the ground but not putting fighting boots on the ground. Does anybody really believe that? The Russians have come into the Middle East picture and looking as if they have the solution. They want to keep Assad in charge of Syria so it does not end up like Iraq. The USA wants the rebels in Syria to take over and ... ? At least it appears that the USA ground troops will be focussed on Northern Syria where the Kurds are in charge and will probably eventually declare their new nation. That might keep the USA and Russia from meeting directly on the battlefield. It looks to me that the USA is desperate to show that they are still involved in that conflict and this latest move is nothing but a face saver until a new president is elected. Fortunately, Trudeau has promised to get Canada out of there ASAP and allow those folks to send lots more body bags back home. Hey Justin, get our boys and girls the hell out of there (maybe by the end of the week) and let the big boys flex their muscles and prove that Syria is just another Iraq or Afghanistan. They deserve each other. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Posted November 3, 2015 So, until Trudeau is able to get our aircraft out of the Middle East we are still at war with ISIL. That means that we are on the same side and supporting and defending the anti-Assad rebels. These are the good guys - I think. There is a group of fighters in that region who are putting their enemies into cages and bringing them to the front lines. Instead of burning them or drowning them in those cages they are using them as shields against their enemies. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/syrian-rebels-caged-captives-human-shields-151102203114417.html Oh, did you think this was ISIS, sorry - these are the anti-Assad rebels. The good guys who we are defending. Maybe it is time we reviewed who are the good guys and the bad guys. We are being played like a fine, fine fiddle! Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
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