-TSS- Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Even though according to some economic analysis the USA is definitely the centre of the universe and therefore even their domestic news become international news, even considering that, I find it a bit exhilarating that I read about this story on the YLE-website in Finland. YLE is the Finnish broadcasting corporation. It is even a big story and a lot of comments have poured in. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930 Footage of events. Quote
Argus Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 It is quite remarkable what I am hearing on this forum. Can we get anymore racist. And yet there is truth in it from what I've read. Look, it's hard to find whites willing to work the kind of hours immigrant asians work in these retail places. In urban areas in the US, you're often looking at a lot of people who really never even learned the habit of working. And a lot of young men in particular never learned to take orders from other men. I highly doubt asian shopkeepers would find it easy to find a black assistant who would live up to their standards of work. Then, too, most of them prefer to hire family, not trusting others. And, let's face it, Asians tend to look down on Blacks as a group. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Simple good old fashioned conservatism would be my guess - the fear of change, especially towards real transparency and accountability. The thought of forcing the authorities to be accountable is apparently a completely alien concept to most right-wingers. The odd one that does get it is, well...odd. I can see why the individual cops wouldn't like it. They'd have to be polite to people they don't want to be polite to, and they'd be worried the boss was checking up on them and listening to their private conversations - which might be about the boss/department. From an institutional standpoint, though, I'd think it would be a winner. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 The Yatim case is about as much of an embarrasement to Canada as the Brown case should be to the US.Our bad cop has been charged with murder. How about your bad cop? We don't know that their cop is bad. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Would all you idiots stop the back and forth with BC? You know he loves it, right? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shady Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 What is racist about that? You're a racist for assuming that only Indians can run businesses and blacks cannot. That is true racism if you want to play that card. Yep. I believe that's referred to as the bigotry of low expectations. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Did they stay in Canada? Were they integrated into Canadian society? How many black Canadian hockey players are there? I guess "slavery" in Canada was/is the reason so many more Canadians emigrate to the United States ? What happened to Michael Brown is not rare...police officers shoot and kill about 400 people per year in America according to FBI stats, which are not all inclusive, but the best source readily available. This Washington Post joint breaks down the "militarization" of police including long guns vs. other weapons. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/08/15/how-the-number-of-justified-police-homicides-has-changed-since-the-1990s/ Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Yep. I believe that's referred to as the bigotry of low expectations. Yes....a very insidious and pernicious circumstance that has been institutionalized. This is what blindly voting for Democrats will yield. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
-TSS- Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 N's are n's. It is too much to ask from them to abide by the law and not being a constant nuisance. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 N's are n's. It is too much to ask from them to abide by the law and not being a constant nuisance. Not sure what this means...."N's" have the right to legally protest...."No justice...no peace"...and all that jazz. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hal 9000 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 This isn't a protest so much as an excuse to riot and pillage - just like the Vancouver riot. Please don't mistake this for the civil rights movement of the 60's. If this community wanted to stop, or at least help race relations, they'd wait for some proper information before rioting. Who knows, we could find out that this guy is a low life thug who got his medicine, but that won't stop race baiters like Al Sharpton for gathering a lynch mob and inciting a riot. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 An interesting opinion piece in Maclean's discusses the NRA's silence on this issue. "This seemingly perfect spectacle for NRA outrage—the shooting of an unarmed man, cops with outsized weapons, mass arrests—is flawed for one reason: Michael Brown was African-American. As such, he doesn’t fit the profile of the typical NRA member and, apparently, doesn’t warrant the group’s paranoid rage it has displayed in the case of Randy Weaver, a known racist who was armed to the teeth at the time of the standoff. The NRA’s lack of rhetoric about Michael Brown, like Trayvon Martin before him, speaks volumes about the group’s other reigning paranoia, this one, race-based." This seems to be true. I haven't seen any NRA talking heads making their tv circuit to promote gun sales against this militarized police, although I have heard that gun sales have increased in this town (not surprising). Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 An interesting opinion piece in Maclean's discusses the NRA's silence on this issue. "This seemingly perfect spectacle for NRA outrage—the shooting of an unarmed man, cops with outsized weapons, mass arrests—is flawed for one reason: Michael Brown was African-American. As such, he doesn’t fit the profile of the typical NRA member and, apparently, doesn’t warrant the group’s paranoid rage it has displayed in the case of Randy Weaver, a known racist who was armed to the teeth at the time of the standoff. The NRA’s lack of rhetoric about Michael Brown, like Trayvon Martin before him, speaks volumes about the group’s other reigning paranoia, this one, race-based." This seems to be true. I haven't seen any NRA talking heads making their tv circuit to promote gun sales against this militarized police, although I have heard that gun sales have increased in this town (not surprising). I can't seem to access the article, can you please explain why you think the NRA should get involved . Is it you that's race baiting or the article? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Shady Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 I certainly would want to own some type of firearm with the insanity of rioting that's going on. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 This seems to be true. I haven't seen any NRA talking heads making their tv circuit to promote gun sales against this militarized police, although I have heard that gun sales have increased in this town (not surprising). Why would the NRA involve itself? Aside from a mention in their weekly newsletter (to members) on a spike in gun sales in St Louis County in response to the initial rioting and looting, I fail to see what the NRA could contribute…….Have the protestors been denied their Second Amendment right in any way? As to “jack-booted law enforcement”, the NRA provides training to both Law Enforcement and Military policing…….why would they bight the proverbial hand that feeds? Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) I certainly would want to own some type of firearm with the insanity of rioting that's going on. And so do many Ferguson residents: Since then, King said he has sold as many as 50 guns a day, when he usually sells between five and 10. He said customers are buying everything from shotguns to AR-15s, concealable handguns, popular semiautomatic pistols like Glocks and Rugers, and firearms with high capacity magazines. He said he's also selling a "boatload" of ammunition. King said customers told him they're depleting their savings and putting purchases on credit cards in their haste to buy firearms. "They did not even have this in their thought process until the QuickTrip started burning down in their backyard," said King, referring to the convenience store that burned down after the Saturday night shooting of Brown. Edited August 17, 2014 by Derek 2.0 Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 "People are coming in with fear in their eyes and they're saying they need something to protect their house," said Steven King, owner of Metro Shooting Supplies, a gun shop in the St. Louis suburb of Bridgeton. "They're scared to death." So, who are these people protecting their houses from? Who are they scared to death of? The police or each other, there has already been shootings between the rioters. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Derek 2.0 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 So, who are these people protecting their houses from? Who are they scared to death of? The police or each other, there has already been shootings between the rioters. I think it’s a common realization that, based on those rioting and looting, the State has a tenuous control on civility amongst the populace……. What I find ironic in this discussion, is that many of those opposed to the “apparent militarization of the police”, are also the ones that commonly oppose private firearms ownership, favouring strict controls and regulations on the type of firearms a citizen can own, with the belief that only the police and military should be armed. Quote
scribblet Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 I’d like to know why they are looting Asian stores to get even with white cops, how is looting Arab and Indo-American stores a protest against white cops? More to the mix http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-eyewitness-recalls-important-detail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/ Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
On Guard for Thee Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Wow, this thread has turned into Racism 101. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 I’d like to know why they are looting Asian stores to get even with white cops, how is looting Arab and Indo-American stores a protest against white cops? More to the mix http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-eyewitness-recalls-important-detail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/ Solidarity! Michael Brown was robbing an Asian (I believe) just before he was shot. Makes a certain amount of sense, don't you think? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Wow, this thread has turned into Racism 101. Who can we blame for that? The media, the people of Ferguson, Al Sharpton? I still believe that given the supposed actions of MB, the police would've taken him down if he was white, black, brown or yellow. You don't grab for a man's gun and expect things to end well. If that gun went off in the police car, with the 2 combatants struggling for a cops gun, that's attempted murder. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Who can we blame for that? The media, the people of Ferguson, Al Sharpton? I still believe that given the supposed actions of MB, the police would've taken him down if he was white, black, brown or yellow. You don't grab for a man's gun and expect things to end well. If that gun went off in the police car, with the 2 combatants struggling for a cops gun, that's attempted murder. None of us know what happenned in that police car. All we really know is that the kid was shot, was unarmed, and was running from the police car. By the sounds of things he may have been up to no good but it certainly seems that under the circumstances we do know, the cop over reacted big time. Was it racism? We likely will never know. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 None of us know what happenned in that police car. All we really know is that the kid was shot, was unarmed, and was running from the police car. By the sounds of things he may have been up to no good but it certainly seems that under the circumstances we do know, the cop over reacted big time. Was it racism? We likely will never know. As I said in the other thread, the autopsy and ballistics will tell us everything we need to know. I'm not sure i buy his buddy's story too much. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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