This week in Islam

[dialamah]

Here's a couple of examples of how Muslims exposed to progressive values will take them as their own, and create progress within Islam.

A little bit of history was made in Copenhagen this week with the first Friday prayers led by two female imams, marking the official opening of the first female-led mosque in Scandinavia, and one of only a handful worldwide outside China.

A Canadian author will become the first Muslim-born woman to lead a mixed-gender British congregation through Friday prayers tomorrow in a highly controversial move that will attempt to spark a debate about the role of female leadership within Islam.

[Argus]

This week in the religion of peace, a British Muslim was arrested for planning a nail bomb attack at an Elton John concert in an effort to kill as many Kafir as possible.

http://www.rock101.com/syn/123/19256/terrorist-attack-at-elton-john-concert-averted

A crazed Muslim in Minneapolis stabbed shoppers at a mall while yelling about Allah.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/st-cloud-mall-isis-minnesota-stabbing-allah-muslim-islam-terrorism-terrorist-attack-stabbing-crossroads-stabber-mass-shopping-center/

An ISIS inspired Muslim stabbed a man in Australia

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-11/alleged-sydney-terror-attacker-inspired-by-is-minto-stabbing/7833870

A crazed Muslim who had been ordered deported attacked police in New York with a meat cleaver while shouting "Allahu Akbar!"

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/09/17/update-2-the-muslim-who-attacked-nyc-police-with-a-meat-cleaver-turns-out-to-be-a-palestinian-arab-illegal-alien-who-was-in-manhattan-to-appeal-his-deportation-order/

German police arrest three Syrian refugees, saying they were sent by ISIS to carry out terrorist attacks

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-german-police-arrest-three-syrian-refugee-men-sent-to-europe-by-isis-to-carry-out-terror-a7239906.html

And RCMP arrest an Ottawa man across the street from where I used to live, saying he was an ISIS supporter

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/exclusive-rcmp-arrested-this-ottawa-man-over-terrorism-fears-last-onth

I won't go into the numerous violent killings throughout the Muslim world involving the religion of peace since they're simply too numerous to mention.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Argus

[Altai]

This week in the religion of peace, a British Muslim was arrested for planning a nail bomb attack at an Elton John concert in an effort to kill as many Kafir as possible.

http://www.rock101.com/syn/123/19256/terrorist-attack-at-elton-john-concert-averted

A crazed Muslim in Minneapolis stabbed shoppers at a mall while yelling a............

I think we have discussed this before. They are not Muslims. If Muslims would like to carry out terror attacks, you could not even take a single step on your street.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Altai

[DogOnPorch]

I think we have discussed this before. They are not Muslims. If Muslims would like to carry out terror attacks, you would not even take a single step on your street.

Because Muslims are superior at terrorist attacks....?

[Argus]

I think we have discussed this before. They are not Muslims. If Muslims would like to carry out terror attacks, you could not even take a single step on your street.

You have no basis for making that statement. What is to say your interpretation of Islam is any more correct than their interpretation of Islam? Many imams seem to be urging such things on.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Argus

[GostHacked]

You have no basis for making that statement. What is to say your interpretation of Islam is any more correct than their interpretation of Islam? Many imams seem to be urging such things on.

You don't have much of a basis fort your rhetoric either. You know that not all Muslims follow the same beliefs. Just as there are differences within Christianity and other religions.

If ALL 1.2 Billion Muslims on the planet wanted you dead, that would have happened by now.

Edited September 18, 2016 by GostHacked

[dialamah]

I wonder how long the list would be if I started posting about all the nasty things 'old stock' Canadian men do on a weekly basis?

Btw, there was an explosion in NYC yesterday, injured a couple dozen, but nobody died thank goodness. Word is that the explosion was intentional, but because nobody said it was related to terrorism/Muslims/Islam, it failed to make an appearance on MSM. It's a good tactic to only notice the stuff that supports your view of the world, eh?

[GostHacked]

I wonder how long the list would be if I started posting about all the nasty things 'old stock' Canadian men do on a weekly basis?

Btw, there was an explosion in NYC yesterday, injured a couple dozen, but nobody died thank goodness. Word is that the explosion was intentional, but because nobody said it was related to terrorism/Muslims/Islam, it failed to make an appearance on MSM. It's a good tactic to only notice the stuff that supports your view of the world, eh?

It's making some headlines now, ...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nyc-explosion-sunday-1.3767742

Mayor Bill de Blasio

"Now, I want to be clear: Whatever the cause, whatever the intention here, New Yorkers will not be intimidated," the mayor said. "We are not going to let anyone change who we are or how we go about our lives."

However that is a lie as many things have changed in how we go about things after 9/11.

Because Muslims are superior at terrorist attacks....?

I's say the CIA and Mossad are better at it. Sure throw in the Russian and Chinese intelligence services as well.

[WestCoastRunner]

I won't go into the numerous violent killings throughout the Muslim world involving the religion of peace since they're simply too numerous to mention.

Every 6 days a woman in Canada is killed by her intimate partner.

3 women are killed everyday in the U.S. Because of domestic violence

Well over 100 women a year are killed in Italy st the hands of a man

1 woman a week is killed by a partner in Australia

Each month in New Zealand a woman is killed by her partner

In Portugal a woman is killed each week by a partner

I think a thread should be started 'men are dangerous to woman'.

Then we could go into details of the violent killings because there are too many to mention in this post.

[kimmy]

Islamic State "soldier" goes on stabbing rampage at Minnesota shopping mall.

-k

[The_Squid]

Individual "lone wolf" attacks are impossible to completely prevent. Glad no one was killed in either attack.

[Argus]

You don't have much of a basis fort your rhetoric either. You know that not all Muslims follow the same beliefs. Just as there are differences within Christianity and other religions.

Okay. Where in the world do they not follow the sorts of beliefs which have been described on this topic? There are dozens of Muslim countries around the world. Where are the enlightened ones who do not practice medieval social policies?

Even in Canada more than half of Muslim women wrap themselves in cloth so as to not cause lust in men.

[Argus]

I wonder how long the list would be if I started posting about all the nasty things 'old stock' Canadian men do on a weekly basis?

I didn't post every nasty thing a Muslim did. I only posted the terrorist related actions in the West which seemed to be inspired by religion. Feel free to post the violent terrorist incidents in the West which are motivated by the Christian or Jewish religions.

[Argus]

Every 6 days a woman in Canada is killed by her intimate partner.

3 women are killed everyday in the U.S. Because of domestic violence

Well over 100 women a year are killed in Italy st the hands of a man

What has any of that got to do with terrorism inspired by Islam?

Human beings kill each other, unfortunately, for a variety of reasons. Do you have any idea the number of partner assaults and partner killing which takes place in the Muslim world? I bet you don't because nobody bothers to record it and the murderer is almost never punished anyway. After all, it's just a woman! Oh, she fell down the stairs. Okay. Hell, the Koran condones wife beating.

I have to say this is one of the more inane defenses of Muslim terrorism I've seen so far.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Argus

[WestCoastRunner]

What has any of that got to do with terrorism inspired by Islam?

Human beings kill each other, unfortunately, for a variety of reasons. Do you have any idea the number of partner assaults and partner killing which takes place in the Muslim world? I bet you don't because nobody bothers to record it and the murderer is almost never punished anyway. After all, it's just a woman! Oh, she fell down the stairs. Okay. Hell, the Koran condones wife beating.

I have to say this is one of the more inane defenses of Muslim terrorism I've seen so far.

My point is that violent killings by Muslims garner media coverage unlike any other violent killings. If media covered femicide like they do these type of killings perhaps domestic violence would be reduced

I am always confused to the outrage of Muslim killings but not much outrage to domestic killings around the world. You keep speaking about the abhorrent practices towards women from the Islam perspective as if you are a women's right defender.

If you are such a defender of women's rights why not start a thread on 'this week in the world of domestic killings'. You won't of course because these type of killings are so normalized and you probably know more about your Islamic victims then any other women around the world.

If you are really concerned about women's rights around the world you should really look beyond the Middle East as well.

[Argus]

My point is that violent killings by Muslims garner media coverage unlike any other violent killings.

You don't understand why terrorism would garner more media coverage than a domestic killing?

Very few people feel threatened by domestic violence. People are always more worried about stranger violence.

If media covered femicide like they do these type of killings perhaps domestic violence would be reduced

No, it wouldn't. Because virtually all domestic violence is caused by alcohol and drug fueled anger and people who are just naturally violent to begin with.

I am always confused to the outrage of Muslim killings but not much outrage to domestic killings around the world.

Have you started a discussion on the topic?

You keep speaking about the abhorrent practices towards women from the Islam perspective as if you are a women's right defender.

If you are such a defender of women's rights why not start a thread on 'this week in the world of domestic killings'.

Why don't you? I think we've made great strides in eliminating domestic violence over the past twenty five years, and great strides towards putting out the message throughout society that it's unacceptable.

My question is, why are you so determined to prevent us from doing the same about Muslim violence and medieval Muslim behaviour? Why do you feel the need to defend that behaviour from criticism instead of condemning it?

[eyeball]

Why do you feel the need to defend that behaviour from criticism instead of condemning it?

We don't defend it and we do condemn it but we don't condemn it in the racist hateful and disgusting manner in which Argus and all the other Islamophobes would like us too.

[dialamah]

You don't understand why terrorism would garner more media coverage than a domestic killing?

Very few people feel threatened by domestic violence. People are always more worried about stranger violence.

They're worried about the wrong thing, too. We're all more likely to be injured or killed by someone we know.

Because virtually all domestic violence is caused by alcohol and drug fueled anger and people who are just naturally violent to begin with.

Breathtaking ignorance here. According to WHO, approximately 55% of domestic violence in America involved alcohol; that is nowhere close to "virtually all".

Studies of intimate partner violence routinely identify recent consumption of alcohol by perpetrators. Estimates vary between countries. In the United States of America, and in England and Wales, victims believed their partners to have been drinking prior to a physical assault in 55% ^(Footnote16) and 32% ^(Footnote17) of cases respectively. In Australia, 36% of intimate partner homicide offenders were under the influence of alcohol at the time of the incident ^(Footnote18), while in Russia, 10.5% of such offenders were intoxicated ^(Footnote19). In South Africa, 65% of women experiencing spousal abuse within last 12 months reported that their partner always or sometimes used alcohol before the assault ^(Footnote20). Other countries where strong links between perpetrator drinking and intimate partner violence have been found include India ^(Footnote21), Uganda ^(Footnote22), Vietnam ^(Footnote12), and Zimbabwe ^(Footnote23). Furthermore, a multi-country study in Chile, Egypt, India and the Philippines identified regular^note2 alcohol consumption by the husband or partner as a risk factor for any lifetime physical intimate partner violence across all four study countries ^(Footnote24).

Alcohol provides abusers with an excuse; it does not *cause* the violence:

The relationship between alcohol or other substance abuse and domestic violence is complicated. A prevailing myth about domestic violence is that alcohol and drugs are the major causes of domestic abuse. In reality, some abusers rely on substance use (and abuse) as an excuse for becoming violent. Alcohol allows the abuser to justify his abusive behavior as a result of the alcohol. While an abuser’s use of alcohol may have an effect on the severity of the abuse or the ease with which the abuser can justify his actions, an abuser does not become violent “because” drinking causes him to lose control of his temper. As described more fully in the section on theories of violence, domestic violence is used to exert power and control over another; it does not represent a loss of control.

Edited September 18, 2016 by dialamah

[Guest]

We don't defend it and we do condemn it but we don't condemn it in the racist hateful and disgusting manner in which Argus and all the other Islamophobes would like us too.

I don't think it's possible to condemn such hateful and disgusting behaviour strongly enough, to be honest.

I think we have discussed this before. They are not Muslims. If Muslims would like to carry out terror attacks, you could not even take a single step on your street.

They are Muslims if they say they are. End of discussion.

I wonder how long the list would be if I started posting about all the nasty things 'old stock' Canadian men do on a weekly basis?

Btw, there was an explosion in NYC yesterday, injured a couple dozen, but nobody died thank goodness. Word is that the explosion was intentional, but because nobody said it was related to terrorism/Muslims/Islam, it failed to make an appearance on MSM. It's a good tactic to only notice the stuff that supports your view of the world, eh?

It was all over the MSM.. Which M do you consider MS?

Edit> For some reason all my posts are being combined. New policy?

Edited September 19, 2016 by bcsapper

[eyeball]

I don't think it's possible to condemn such hateful and disgusting behaviour strongly enough, to be honest.

Strongly enough that it condemns innocent Muslims too? Honestly?

[Guest]

Strongly enough that it condemns innocent Muslims too? Honestly?

Innocent Muslims don't indulge in hateful and disgusting behaviour.

[eyeball]

So it is possible after all.

[Guest]

So it is possible after all.

Of course. As has been stated, we'd all be dead if they were all nuts.

[drummindiver]

Of course. As has been stated, we'd all be dead if they were all nuts.

When the advantage changes, as current trends seem to dictate, will there be more radicalization when they are in a position of power, as has happened in many areas?

[Guest]

When the advantage changes, as current trends seem to dictate, will there be more radicalization when they are in a position of power, as has happened in many areas?

Possibly. Of course, they might all be won over by nudist beaches and Pride parades. Who knows?