BubberMiley Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) What are you talking about? You telling me to get a life? I was just pointing out that your posts rarely have the credibility of truthiness. That's not a personal attack. It's a good idea to check out who you're getting your information from before you post it. Edited October 16, 2012 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
scribblet Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 What are you talking about? You telling me to get a life? I was just pointing out that your posts rarely have the credibility of truthiness. That's not a personal attack. It's a good idea to check out who you're getting your information from before you post it. Nice derailing of a topic and note the lack of truthiness at your end. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Moonlight Graham Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 That's crazy. Maybe he's gearing up for a run at the federal Liberal leadership? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Are you suggesting that Dalton is really a conservative? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
jbg Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 What are you talking about? You telling me to get a life? I was just pointing out that your posts rarely have the credibility of truthiness. That's not a personal attack. It's a good idea to check out who you're getting your information from before you post it. Recently, Bubber, I've been noticing you've been doing more than your share of attacking. At least I'm not the only one. I do consider the source. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Mr.Canada Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 I'm expecting a huge scandal to break any day now. I don't think a sitting Premier would step down a year into his new mandate unless something huge was about to break. Convenient that now he's also prorogued parliament at the same time so that when something does break, nothing can be done about it right away. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Fletch 27 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Two words. "no accountability". From the federal NDP, to provincial liberals (qc and ont)... Is there only one party canadians can count on? The feds should take the liberals to task and run a complete criminal investigation via the rcmp.. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 I just woke up and it is always amazing to wake up to such happy news!!!!! I'll be taking out a membership in the Ontario Liberal Party tomorrow. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
cybercoma Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Proroguing the legislature is perhaps the most egregious affront to democracy we have ever seen. McGuinty says there's still work to do regarding the Ontario teachers and other things; yet, he wants to carry out that work without the legislature of elected representatives. Shame on him. Responsible government was fought for through rebellions and won over 150 years ago. We've had representative government here for over 200 years. This is quite possibly one of the most despicable moves in recent Canadian political memory. Quote
scribblet Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Don't forget McGuinty remains Premier until they choose a new leader who will then have to will have to call an election to get a mandate. I'd guess at a winter leadership race with a June 2013 election. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
cybercoma Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Oh and shame on the Lieutenant Governor for allowing McGuinty to prorogue the legislature for an unspecified length of time, yet continue to work on the issues that need to be addressed. Quote
jacee Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 My suspicions, now also coming from the rumour mill ... The word is that McGuinty has been recruited by the deep pocket Liberal corporocrats who run the federal party ... because they can control him whereas Justin Trudeau isn't in their pockets.. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) They had some poll that's already indicating McGuinty would win Liberal Leadership over Trudeau. Seems suspicious to me. I'm of the impression that McGuinty is poison. Weird that he would be leading Trudeau. Edited October 16, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
Boges Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 McDalton as the Federal Liberal Party leader would be hilarious! No chance a guy like that runs on his record Nationally. I really doubt he does it, or at least does it successfully. Didn't he say he wants to spend time with his family? The prorouging is really is the icing on the cake for this guys scumbaggery. Now let me be clear, I'm not critical of Harper when he did it twice, though I'm still not certain why he did it the second time. I don't believe I'm being hypocritical though. This is a totally different situation. What Dalton has done here has stopped the ways the Opposition can hold them to account for the horrible things this government has done. And for an unspecified period of time, at that. At least Harper said when he'd be back from prorougment. In a time when this province faces serious challenges, the government has basically taken their ball and gone home until they can get their shit together. We may not see Bills passed until next summer, if not for a whole year. There are a list of things we need to see clarified before then and because of the A-holes hubris we now have to wait, sickening! Quote
scribblet Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Hudak and Horwath don't want the legislature shut down, can they stop it? Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Boges Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Hudak and Horwath don't want the legislature shut down, can they stop it? Well just like in 2008 the decision lies with the Symbolic head of state. In this case the Lt Governor. Perhaps we can plead to ER2 in London to overturn this decision. Quote
jbg Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Wasn't there only one Premier who became Prime Minister? Don't recall who that was. Does anyone know? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Hardner Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Sir John Thompson ? Premier of NS and Prime Minister of Canada http://canadaonline.about.com/cs/primeminister/p/pmthompson.htm Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
guyser Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 McDalton as the Federal Liberal Party leader would be hilarious! No chance a guy like that runs on his record Nationally. I really doubt he does it, or at least does it successfully. Didn't he say he wants to spend time with his family? The prorouging is really is the icing on the cake for this guys scumbaggery. Yeah pretty much. Always bad whenever anyone does it. Bad right now and as you probably agree , bad when done a while back federally. Never do like it when they use it as political manoeuvery. Now let me be clear, I'm not critical of Harper when he did it twice, . I don't believe I'm being hypocritical though. This is a totally different situation. What Dalton has done here has stopped the ways the Opposition can hold them to account for the horrible things this government has done. And for an unspecified period of time, at that. At least Harper said when he'd be back from prorougment. Oh sorry, I thought perhaps there would be equal scumbaggery thrown about. Guess not. For the record , yes you are being hypocritical. This is totally different, Harper and McGuinty are different people. So at least you have that going for you. In a time when this province faces serious challenges, the government has basically taken their ball and gone home until they can get their shit together. We may not see Bills passed until next summer, if not for a whole year. There are a list of things we need to see clarified before then and because of the A-holes hubris we now have to wait, sickening! And we agree on this part, circa Dec 2009 and Oct 2012. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Sure LOL Rumour has it that the Federal Liberal party power monger mucky mucks have recruited Dalton to run against Justin for the Federal Liberal Party leadership. Remember you heard it first here I now call the escaping Dalton, 'The Cowardly Liar" as he runs off on the Yellow prick road. He can't take anymore heat. The power plant moves were the last straw...I'm melting...melting. His accomplishments. Breaking Ontario financially Screwing with honest citizens in Caledonia Billion spent (read wasted), on e Health Ornge fiasco. Lying about no tax increases. Catering to teachers. Catering to Public Services workers. Too many Aw shucks people I Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 I hope McGunity runs for the federal leadership, because if he did and his record were actually judged against a Liberal standard, he'd finish dead last, and I would enjoy that. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Boges Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 So what Harper was just supposed to allow the Bloc, NDP and Liberals take over power with Stephan Dion! being the leader without a fight? Essentially overturning the results of the election only two months earlier? If the decision to form a Coalition was a wise one then it would have withstood the prorougment. Would you have preferred another election in the midst of the economic meltdown? Quote
Boges Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 BTW there were massive protests about the Harper prorougment. I trust there will be protests about this too. This decision by McGuinty has to be the final nail in the coffin of the government. Those Power Plant documents must have exposed some sort of outright fraud that Dalton just couldn't face while in office. His name is mud from now on in the eye of Ontarians. Quote
guyser Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 So what Harper was just supposed to allow the Bloc, NDP and Liberals take over power with Stephan Dion! being the leader without a fight? Essentially overturning the results of the election only two months earlier? Politics can suck sometimes huh? Dont forget the Afghan commission Harper was desparate to avoid, among other things. They both want to avoid scandal. It matters becuase its the height of hypocracy. If the decision to form a Coalition was a wise one then it would have withstood the prorougment. Would you have preferred another election in the midst of the economic meltdown? No need to attempt to qualify your hypocracy. It is evident that you want two sets of rules. Quote
Boges Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 No need to attempt to qualify your hypocracy. It is evident that you want two sets of rules. I guess. If you can't see the difference? It's obvious. Harper said he was taking a break for 2 months and said exactly when the House would sit again. Not so here. This is an infinite break that could last up to a year. Both times Harper did it, it was at the beginning of a session. McGuinty is canceling the Fall session with plenty of important work yet to be done. Anyway this thread is about McGuinty not Harper. Harper won a majority post-proroguments so it was a wise decision for him. Will doing this end up helping McGuinty? I can't see how. Quote
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