Syrian Civil War

[GostHacked]

On 10/20/2018 at 6:34 PM, DogOnPorch said:

 

When in doubt, blame Israel for Arab bellicosity. 

If Israel wants to bomb Syria then they can handle any criticism of said bombing. Unless you want to call me a Nazi loving Jew hater again.

On 4/20/2018 at 4:49 PM, taxme said:

I only asked you a simple question. Who here is obsessed with Nazism anyway? 

I'll give you three guesses as to who.... (check the first reply in this post)

 

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

If Israel wants to bomb Syria then they can handle any criticism of said bombing. Unless you want to call me a Nazi loving Jew hater again.

I'll give you three guesses as to who.... (check the first reply in this post)

 

 

You were denying the presence of Iranian troops in Syria...how cute!

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

If Israel wants to bomb Syria then they can handle any criticism of said bombing. Unless you want to call me a Nazi loving Jew hater again.

I'll give you three guesses as to who.... (check the first reply in this post)

 

 

You're also free to provide a quote on that claim.

[Charles Anthony]

Folks, 

You are free to avoid thread drift. 

[taxme]

5 hours ago, GostHacked said:

If Israel wants to bomb Syria then they can handle any criticism of said bombing. Unless you want to call me a Nazi loving Jew hater again.

I'll give you three guesses as to who.... (check the first reply in this post)

 

A 2012 post. It would appear as though those members have left the building years ago. Where did they go? 

Edited October 22, 2018 by taxme

[GostHacked]

3 hours ago, Charles Anthony said:

Folks, 

You are free to avoid thread drift. 

You are free to actually moderate.

[GostHacked]

Interesting development.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/us-syria-withdrawal/index.html

And Assad remains in power.  As expected.  

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Washington (CNN)Planning is underway for a "full" and "rapid" withdrawal of US troops from Syria, a US defense official told CNN Wednesday.

The decision, which would be a reversal from previously stated US policy, was made by President Donald Trump, who has long signaled his desire to get out of Syria, the official added.

On Wednesday morning, the President tweeted, "we have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency."

Even though the US will continue to maintain troops in Iraq with the capability of launching strikes into Syria, a US withdrawal of ground forces would fulfill a major goal of Syria, Iran and Russia and risks diminishing US influence in the region.

I think they have to admit defeat now and simply suck it up and pull out.  Actually I agree with Trump on this matter. About freakin time. 

[TTM]

8 hours ago, GostHacked said:

And Assad remains in power.  As expected.

It was what Russia wanted.

[bush_cheney2004]

Trudeau stopped supporting CF-18 missions in Iraq & Syria over 2 years ago...."Operation Impact"....bombus interruptus.

[GostHacked]

1 hour ago, TTM said:

It was what Russia wanted.

That is expected as Russia is an ally of Syria.  It's no different than the USA wanting to stand up for another ally which is just as tyrannical, Saudi Arabia.  Which we all know now Saudi Arabia and the USA was actually helping ISIS out in Syria.

So good on the USA for pulling it's terrorists out of Syria.

[TTM]

37 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

That is expected as Russia is an ally of Syria

It wasn't a comment on Russia

[Selivan]

Trump said he removes all American troops from Syria.
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When the Russian patriots remove the "Дерьмо-Путин", then we will close forever this "project America on the island" America "

In the 19th century, Russians studied French ....
Russia defeated Napoleon Bonoparta and invaded France and Paris ....
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In the 20th century, Russians learned German ....
Russia defeated Hitler and conquered Germany and Berlin ....
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In the 21st century, Russians studied English ....
I believe that the territory of "America", we will close ..

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[Zeitgeist]

Russia is an oligarchy and barely rates as a free democracy.  It has a small GDP for the size of its population.  The people are fairly well educated, but most Russians live the way our lower classes do, in public housing-type prefabricated concrete towers.  The country has some bright spots with its athletics and space program, but it's got a lot of problems.  Sure, you can invade more countries, but then you have to manage these territories with hostile locals.  Knock yourself out.  It didn't go well in the Baltic Republics under the Soviets.  Why make the same mistakes?

[GostHacked]

20 hours ago, TTM said:

It wasn't a comment on Russia

But....

22 hours ago, TTM said:

It was what Russia wanted.

Which is it?

[Dougie93]

On 12/20/2018 at 10:41 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Russia is an oligarchy and barely rates as a free democracy.  It has a small GDP for the size of its population.  The people are fairly well educated, but most Russians live the way our lower classes do, in public housing-type prefabricated concrete towers.  The country has some bright spots with its athletics and space program, but it's got a lot of problems.  Sure, you can invade more countries, but then you have to manage these territories with hostile locals.  Knock yourself out.  It didn't go well in the Baltic Republics under the Soviets.  Why make the same mistakes?

The underpinning political dynamic is Revanchism; "the policy of seeking to retaliate, particularly as to lost territory"

This has led to the rise in Russia of a political class known as the Siloviki; "Security Men"

This class operates by Praetorianism; "military despotic regime"

As a result the policy of the Kremlin is to reclaim lost territory in the Russian near abroad and to restore Hegemonic influence with former Soviet client states such as Syria, which in their view was lost to the American led North Atlantic Treaty Organization upon said Hegenomy's asymmetrical defeat of the Soviet Union by economic warfare.

Thus, the actions undertaken to invade and occupy territory is not mistaken per se, but rather operations underpinning a strategic objective, sound military strategy by default, in pursuit of what are achievable objectives within an historically viable and proven military strategy for Hegemonic supremacy, regional or otherwise.

[GostHacked]

So the pull out never happened.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/syria-manjib-explosion-1.4980050

 

 

[GostHacked]

Looks like Israel is getting more into it now.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel-attacks-iran-forces-in-syria-military-confirms

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Israel confirmed early Monday that its military attacked Iranian targets in Syria, in a rare statement on such an operation.

“We have started striking Iranian Quds targets in Syrian territory,” the military statement said. “We warn the Syrian Armed Forces against attempting to harm Israeli forces or territory.”

Until now Israel largely has refrained from public admissions of its covert military operations in neighboring Syria to avoid large-scale involvement in the eight-year civil war.

The military’s statement was issued hours after Israeli missile defenses intercepted an incoming missile over the Golan Heights in the wake of rare daylight air raid near the Damascus International Airport.

Does not say exactly where the missile came from (if it came from Syria) ,,  guess it does not matter.  Bombs away.  Israel and the USA and Saudi Arabia need to stay out of Syria.

 

So what is this 'civil war' people keep talking about? It's an outright war on Syria from western entities.

Edited January 21, 2019 by GostHacked

[eyeball]

On 1/21/2019 at 4:38 AM, GostHacked said:

So what is this 'civil war' people keep talking about? It's an outright war on Syria from western entities.

Which is just another battle on the road to wherever it is these entities are taking us.  Cheaper oil, sunny ways, end of days...who really knows?

Edited January 22, 2019 by eyeball

[Dougie93]

The IDF is simply interdicting Hezbollah by way of their Quds force enablers, shaping the battlespace in real time in preparation for another clash with Iranian proxy in South Lebanon.

As to the rest of Syria, Tel Aviv is simply in watch and shoot mode, and as they are the Regional Super Power, are more than capable of laying a beat down on all comers therein, including Mr. Ivan if he is reckless enough to mess with them.

[GostHacked]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

The IDF is simply interdicting Hezbollah by way of their Quds force enablers, shaping the battlespace in real time in preparation for another clash with Iranian proxy in South Lebanon.

As to the rest of Syria, Tel Aviv is simply in watch and shoot mode, and as they are the Regional Super Power, are more than capable of laying a beat down on all comers therein, including Mr. Ivan if he is reckless enough to mess with them.

I would put money on it that Putin is not scared of Israel.

But tit for tat, if Israel strikes in Syria.. then Syria has the right to retaliate.  I know I know... sure sure,, they are battling terrorists. Well that's what we are told anyways.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/in-syria-israel-secretly-armed-and-funded-12-rebel-groups-1.6462729

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Israel discreetly funded and armed at least 12 rebel groups in southern Syria in order to keep Iranian-backed militias and Islamic State fighters away from Israel's border, Foreign Policy magazine reported on Thursday. 

Foreign Policy's Elizabeth Tsurkov interviewed more than two dozen members of the rebel groups, who reported that Israel's support took place in recent years and ended last month.

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The weapons transfer, according to the report, included assault rifles, machine guns, mortar launchers and transport vehicles, all delivered through three border crossings – gates that connect the Golan Heights and Syria.

These crossings are the same ones through which Israel transferred humanitarian aid to Syria.

According to Tsurkov, Israel paid each rebel approximately 75 dollars per month, with additional money transfers for the groups to purchase weapons on Syria's black market.

When Bashar Assad's forces retook south Syria in July, rebel groups expected Israel to intervene, due to the support they had received, sources told Tsurkov. One fighter said: “This is a lesson we will not forget about Israel. It does not care about … the people. It does not care about humanity. All it cares about it its own interests.”

When will they start to understand that arming 'rebels' is always going to turn against them? And I am not just talking Israel here. The USA has a long history of supporting terrorists..  oh sorry .. 'rebels' and 'freedome fighters'.  Taking a quick look online, many Israeli sources are saying the same thing with regards to arming so called 'rebels'. I wonder why US/CAN media does not show the same thing. I guess that would ruin their narrative on the whole thing.

[Dougie93]

36 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

I would put money on it that Putin is not scared of Israel.

 

Not afraid of them attacking Russia, but duly wary of getting into any head to head confrontation with them in the Eastern Mediterranean, because at this distance from Sevastopol, the IDF holds anything Russian at risk by many vectors, with superior forces in situ, to include the best tactical air force in the world, the most lethal maritime force in the AO, and an army which is larger than the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation, the IDF having 500,000 mechanized troops available at short notice.

Most likely vector in the event of the Russians inciting a shoot out with Tel Aviv, is that the IDF simply approaches by stealth and sinks the Russian Flotilla at will. There's no way they can detect the Dolphin class in those waters, Dolphin class is what is known as a Black Hole in the water.

[bush_cheney2004]

No sympathy for Syria, which hammered Lebanon for decades.    The Israelis know what to do.

[Dougie93]

Well, I can have some sympathy for the people caught in that Stalingrad, but nothing we can about it, and in fact Putin is the one bringing power to bear to stabilize it, so let him

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Well, I can have some sympathy for the people caught in that Stalingrad, but nothing we can about it, and in fact Putin is the one bringing power to bear to stabilize it, so let him

 

That's fine, but Syria is a long exercise in dysfunctional tribalism and incompetent eye doctor for a father-son dictator duo.   Canada knows how that goes !

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

That's fine, but Syria is a long exercise in dysfunctional tribalism and incompetent eye doctor for a father-son dictator duo.   Canada knows how that goes !

lol.   Pierre El-Assad Just Watch Me.

Basically the situation started to go Damascus' way when the Russians started carpet bombing. 

Strategic bombing is generally ineffective, but it's totally ineffective when your using PGM's weapons tight.

So long as you follow up with KCCO, it's still useful as preparatory bombardment.

Edited January 23, 2019 by Dougie93