betsy Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yesterday Mitt was in favor of eliminating FEMA. Today he's in favor of keeping it. #RomneyDirectional -k Care to give a link on that? From what I've heard, he refused to answer when asked if he'd privatize FEMA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Oh, he answered the 15th time? haha, of course not. He had his campaign issue a statement. “Gov. Romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdictions,” Romney spokesman Ryan Williams said in a statement. “As the first responders, states are in the best position to aid affected individuals and communities, and to direct resources and assistance to where they are needed most. This includes help from the federal government and FEMA.” If Mitt is worried that his position is unpopular, he lies about his position then has his people "clarify" his position later on. It's like the time he said at the first debate that he had a healthcare plan that protected people with pre-existing conditions, but had his spokesman go on cable news the next day to explain that the plan doesn't protect people with pre-existing conditions. Or how Mitt says that overturning Roe vs Wade is a personal priority for him, yet his Ohio campaign director is telling voters that Roe vs Wade is not going to be overturned. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I agree with Betsy that we just have to take him at his word that he believes that it is immoral for the federal government to be involved in rescue efforts when it has such a large deficit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 The storm has caused that much damage in the East-Coast that even postponing the election-day is not ruled out. However, that would have to be decided by Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yesterday Mitt was in favor of eliminating FEMA. Today he's in favor of keeping it. #RomneyDirectional -k Another lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Care to give a link on that? From what I've heard, he refused to answer when asked if he'd privatize FEMA. It's just another pathetic lie from the usual pathetic suspects. He actually talked about states having more power when it comes to emergency situations. To statist lemmings, that means "eliminating" FEMA. It's like they don't even try anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 77.4% Shady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Another lie. When asked about FEMA, he said he believes that federal assistance to storm victims is "immoral" given the federal deficit. In the same quote, he said that rather than look at which federal programs to cut, we should be looking at which federal programs to keep, and that emergency assistance should be left to the states or, better yet, the private sector. I would be interested to hear the GOP lemmings explain how they could possibly interpret that as not calling for FEMA's elimination, but they won't. They just wordsmith around the truth and try to scream "lie" louder. Edited October 31, 2012 by BubberMiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 66% on Intrade Shady....2 to 1 odds there, more than 3 to 1 at 538. According to 538, Obama is projected to win 299 Electoral College votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 It's just another pathetic lie from the usual pathetic suspects. He actually talked about states having more power when it comes to emergency situations. To statist lemmings, that means "eliminating" FEMA. It's like they don't even try anymore. Polls don't matter, balloons do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 66% on Intrade Shady....2 to 1 odds there, more than 3 to 1 at 538. According to 538, Obama is projected to win 299 Electoral College votes. That's up from even 2 days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 That's up from even 2 days ago. Unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that Romney is leading among independents by double digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 How meaningless can your arguments get, Shady? Someone posts national numbers or predictions based on the electoral college vis-a-vis state polls and you make a comment about independent voters. Do I come back with Obama's up amongst african americans, latinos, women, gays, and youth? I mean seriously.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Oh and early voters.... you know... people that already cast ballots. I should add them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 How meaningless can your arguments get, Shady? Someone posts national numbers or predictions based on the electoral college vis-a-vis state polls and you make a comment about independent voters. Do I come back with Obama's up amongst african americans, latinos, women, gays, and youth? I mean seriously.... You think a candidate winning independents by double digits is meaningless? You're delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Oh and early voters.... you know... people that already cast ballots. I should add them too. Yep, the early vote that Romneys leading 52 to 45. Sure, add them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) And yet, the overall picture of the historically reliable state by state polls have Romney trailing by a large enough Margin that the NYT 538 Blog can now give Obama 77.4% odds of winning the electoral college. In fact, every single electoral college predictor has Obama winning at least 271 electoral college votes at current without including the close toss up states. Romney is just over 200. That means under none of the predicted scenarios does Romney even have a chance. That doesn't mean he won't win, but it appears very very unlikely. Edited October 31, 2012 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleipnir Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Quote from Fivethirtyeight The first of these sites is FiveThirtyEight. The others, in the order that they’re listed in the table, are Electoral-Vote.com;Votamatic, by the Emory University political scientist Drew Linzer; HuffPost Pollster; Real Clear Politics; Talking Points Memo’s PollTracker; and the Princeton Election Consortium, which is run by Sam Wang, a neuroscientist at Princeton. These are pretty much all the sites I’m aware of that use state polling data in a systematic way. Edited October 31, 2012 by Sleipnir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 i'm tired of.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 And yet, Yep, even in the face off mounting evidence, Nate Silver, the New York Times' chief Obamabot, keeps up his blog propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yep, even in the face off mounting evidence, Nate Silver, the New York Times' chief Obamabot, keeps up his blog propaganda. You're funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 You're funny. That's what I think of his blog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) People on Intrade are all Obama-bots too, I guess. Unless, of course, Romney is doing well. Then they're correct! In the meantime, Obama is at 68.5! Time for the full-on GOP liberal conspiracy panic mode. Edited October 31, 2012 by BubberMiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 You can cite InTrade all you want. I'll cite the fact that Romney is up with Independents by double digits. No politician that loses Independents by double digits wins elections. Obama's toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 You can cite InTrade all you want. Thank you. I'll have to since you stopped once it started going bad for Romney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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