bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) That proves nothing. The Northern Alliance also you might say vacation there. They are our allies against the Taliban but they are not unconditional allies. They have domestic politics to deal with just as we do. And their political battles are a little more real than ours, ifyadig...and it doesn't help them if morons burn books that their constituency feel attached to. I'm sure you can connect the dots. Oh sure...I understand that point of view...and quickly reject it, lest we bend over for every other "ally" that might be offended. Do we have to get rid of all the pork and porn too? Edited September 8, 2010 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Do we have to get rid of all the pork and porn too? Are we going out of our way to offend our allies with pork and porn? This isn't a case of some foreigners deciding we are decadent, this is a case of someone deciding to offend. It is like an obnoxious asshat trying to pick a fight in a bar....and Petrayus is just plainly saying that offending the political base of our allies will not win the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Those who will get pissed off are already pissed off at the US anyway. Since I have some modicum of common sense, if I was a Muslim I'd think "they got hurt real bad on 9/11. I don't blame the yanks one bit. They're still hurting and showing it". Gee, I thought urinating and toilet flushing of the Qu'ran at 'Gitmo would have pissed them off years ago. Maybe burning will do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Gee, I thought urinating and toilet flushing of the Qu'ran at 'Gitmo would have pissed them off years ago. Maybe burning will do the trick. T'wasn't that @ Abu Ghraib? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) Are we going out of our way to offend our allies with pork and porn? Yes...don't you get satellite TV? Pirate DVD sales in the Mideast? Pulled pork sammys in Baghdad? This isn't a case of some foreigners deciding we are decadent, this is a case of someone deciding to offend. It is like an obnoxious asshat trying to pick a fight in a bar....and Petrayus is just plainly saying that offending the political base of our allies will not win the war. It's not suppose to win the war....it's suppose to purposely inflame and innoculate. Why are we only concerned about not offending Muslims? Edited September 8, 2010 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 T'wasn't that @ Abu Ghraib? Could be....happened in a lot of places once we knew it tweaked 'em like Mohammad cartoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Maybe burning will do the trick. While wearing a turban Allah a la Mohamed for added effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 While wearing a turban Allah a la Mohamed for added effect. For sure....the strongest dose of free speech protest possible. That is ultimately what this is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 It's not suppose to win the war....it's suppose to purposely inflame and innoculate. Why are we only concerned about not offending Muslims? I agree it will inflame. Inflaming isn't part of the winning strategy. I doubt it will inoculate, no doubt the real purpose is to get more bodies, mouth breathing or otherwise in the pews. I guess the church barker figures that stupidity worked for Phelps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Because the struggle is asymetrical....the politics of it can be as deadly as the fighting if those who you are fighting turn against you because some dickhead says crap and burns the books... ...or invades Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 ...or invades Iraq. ....and the world protested in vain. But not for just burning a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I agree it will inflame. Inflaming isn't part of the winning strategy. I doubt it will inoculate, no doubt the real purpose is to get more bodies, mouth breathing or otherwise in the pews. I guess the church barker figures that stupidity worked for Phelps. That's a secondary consideration....the whole world is not going to tip-toe around Islam. Burning objects has a long political tradition in many parts of the world, including Muslim nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Burning objects has a long political tradition in many parts of the world, including Muslim nations. Which should clue most that it is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 For sure....the strongest dose of free speech protest possible. That is ultimately what this is about. Tasteless.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Light 'em up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Which should clue most that it is stupid. Free speech and protest is stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Tasteless.... Excellent! ROTFLMAO...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Your search for "Bhagavad Gita burning" returned '0' results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 So you think surrendering to terrorist threats is the way to win in Afghanistan? Why fight at all? Why not just support al Qaeda and the Taliban? I don't get the General's remarks. I mean, I understand what he's saying; I don't understand why he's saying it. Seems to me the whole purpose of the mission is to fight against the terrorist threat, not give in to it. Seems to me it would undermine the whole purpose for being there. See, the difference between "the terrorist threat" and normal wars is that if you piss these people off by, oh, burning Qu'rans, you'll end up making more of the people we don't like and are fighting because they're not a set force with relatively stable numbers. It's like fighting fire with gasoline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Excellent! ROTFLMAO...... The tour will never happen, my friend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 The tour will never happen, my friend... .....this is why "The West" will win. Better humour and comic writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 See, the difference between "the terrorist threat" and normal wars is that if you piss these people off by, oh, burning Qu'rans, you'll end up making more of the people we don't like and are fighting because they're not a set force with relatively stable numbers. It's like fighting fire with gasoline. But we do fight fire with gasoline...and kerosene...and propane....and butane....and.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Good thing I slipped on the hip waders, several posts ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 .....this is why "The West" will win. Better humour and comic writing. I sure hope so. Our dinglefritz government(s) seem hell bent on making my country into something out of 1001 Nights...and I don't mean Sinbad. Where's a melting pot when you need one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 From the other side of the pond: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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