Moonbox

He's getting clobbered out East as well, by almost 17 points. He's +10 points down in Ontario and 16 points down in Quebec. I'd love to see where genius is getting his polling information from though, because the only pollster I've been able to find showing the race is a tie is Mainstreet Research. I'm not prepared to make any prediction here. The polls still look really bad for Poilievre from what I can tell, but I find it hard to believe the Liberals can actually get re-elected after Trudeau pooped all over Canada.

No, the judge literally disagreed they were journalists, citing that almost nothing they produce is original news content. It was an emphatic rebuke of who Rebel Media is and what they do, with the federal court judge summarizing that the large majority of what they publish has no basis in facts and that what little that does is almost all coming from other organizations and being reposted. For you to sit there and point at the fact that 2% of what they post is actual original news content is proof of their journalism chops is peak comedy. You are what you do, and if 98% of your time is spent doing things other than journalism, calling yourself a journalist is retarded, but very on-brand for you. 🤣👌

Ten articles out of the ~420+ they posted. TEN. That's 2% of their content. The judge confirmed they don't qualify as a journalism organization. ...and we both know what it means when you need to start telling everyone you're winning. 🤡

Lol nope! That's the part the federal judge confirmed they don't actually do. When asked to submit a 3-week period of their content for review, only 10 out of 400+ "articles" they published had anything even resembling original news content. Ranting uselessly about stuff and spreading 10-IQ misinformation doesn't count as news. If it did, you'd be the most prolific "journalist" in the country! 🤣

You're not the first, or even the 50th person who's said something like this to him on this forum. How do you debate someone who literally has no life? 🥴

Yeah, exactly. They're all in it together. BBC, CBC, Europe's Broadcasting Union, AP, Reuters, the NY Times, Washpo, Google, Youtube, Twitter, FB, FBI, Illuminati, the Free Masons, the Mind Control Vampires from Zeta Reticuli... They're all in it together to fool us. 🤡🤡🤡 The bubble is comfy. The bubble is safe. 🫂

No, here's the whole quote: For the purpose of accreditation, a "media organization" is an organization that either produces original news content related to coverage of Canadian or international political news, or covers political, social and policy issues. Bolded is journalism. Second part is wide open: advocacy groups, think-tanks etc. As already mentioned, a federal judge just ruled they don't count as a journalism organization, because they're not actually producing any original news content. They're just a bunch of loud shrills reposting content from elsewhere and ranting about made-up shit and other nonsense. Of course you're a fan. 🙃

All true, the problem that Poilievre has is that he can't convince most Canadians that he's the solution. The cure has to be better than the disease. Talking about 15% income tax cuts while ragging about the deficit is not confidence-inspiring.

That's the crazy thing here. They don't even try to hide that they're nothing but political activists, but the apes are so desperate for the noises they want to hear that they'll convince themselves this is a credible news source anyway.

That tracks. I'm somewhat sympathetic to the folks who complain about left-leaning bias in a lot of news. When Rebel is the alternative they present, my faith in humanity dies a bit.

No, it's not. There's no requirement to be a journalist to attend. All you have to do is be an organization that: covers political, social and policy issues. https://www.debates-debats.ca/en/news/2025/opens-media-accreditation/ As mentioned, not only has Rebel's status as a journalism organization been denied, that ruling has been confirmed on appeal recently by a federal court judge. They do almost literally zero journalism, which again is likely why they registered as a political advocacy group.

These are the same complaints. No, it is the matter at hand. It's Rebel Media being Rebel Media - doing exactly what they always do. It's a tired routine and not even the least bit noteworthy outside of the folks already drinking their Kool-Aid.

No, they have no said that. They overruled the debate commission's decision to bar them from attendance, and for numerous reasons. Not only has a federal judge since ruled that Rebel doesn't qualify as a news journalism organization, Rebel themselves apparently don't either, registering for this years debate as a political advocacy group.

Again, that's not how it works. Journalists report the actual news, not the news that you want to hear. Because they weren't even really asking questions. They were peddling grievances and making accusations disguised as questions. Rebel "News" is in the business of crying foul about confrontations they themselves start. How many videos have we seen from these clowns of them jamming mics in people's faces and yelling asshat questions at them, and then crying foul when someone shoves the mic away or pushes them aside? A LOT.

Where did the courts say that? A federal court literally ruled they were not back in September, when Rebel appealed being denied federal subsidies and the decision was upheld on the basis that they do almost literally zero actual journalism. 🙃

Too bad? It's not up to you to decide which questions they ask or what angles they investigate. They've no obligation to ask everyone's questions, or proportionally representative ones, especially if those questions are stupid. Believe it or not, I actually agree it's biased, and I also agree that if it wants taxpayer funds that it needs to be less politicized. I wouldn't shed many tears if it was defunded. Where we probably don't agree, however, is in the goofy MSM conspiracy theories. It's all fine and good to not trust a news group, and you should have a healthy degree of skepticism about all of them. What's problematic, however, is when you don't trust any of it, from anywhere, unless it's telling you exactly what you want to hear. Those are the donkeys following Rebel Media.

Who's everyone? The news isn't there to "represent you", and Rebel Media is not news and isn't interested in actually informing anyone. Don't take my word for that either. That was determined by a federal judge last September when Rebel's plea for public funding was denied (again) on the grounds that almost nothing they do qualifies as real journalism. The overwhelming majority of Rebel's content was found to not only to have no factual basis or research behind it, but what little that did was being pulled and curated/rewritten by other sources. Boohoo, Rebel doesn't get federal funding to make stuff up and repost what other people have written. Boohoo, Rebel doesn't get to seek out and stir up confrontations to subsequently cry about. 🙄

I went three times yesterday. First two times the wait was an hour (polling station was only a block away so I left). I came back 10 minutes before the doors closed, and just breezed through. Usually I would say a high turn out benefits the Liberals, since the Conservative vote is usually more motivated and better mobilized. Generally the polls error on the side of the Conservatives as well, and it's usually because so many young folk didn't bother actually getting out, and they were typically more liberal. This time? Who knows. Young men at least are polling more Conservative than they have been for a long time.

In what world is this: Read the room. Does sharing policies and rhetoric style with Trump, as Canadians unify against who he is, what he's doing and what he stands for, seem like good strategy to you?? the same thing as: So... the Conservatives shouldn't worry themselves over budget deficits or try to protect our borders or lower immigration or fight against Chinese influence or want lower taxes and smaller government because Orange man feels the same way? ????? I'm not sure you even know what planet a red tory comes from. As far as strawman goes, you have a pretty good example right there. The idea that conservatives shouldn't worry about all of those things is something you just made up. 🙃

Nope, and Trump was out there again recently repeating that Ukraine started the war! He's showing his true colors, as expected.

Then surely you can show that quote, right? Of course you can't. I would say that this sort of strawman and hyperbolic ranting is exactly what's turning red tories away. 🙃

Yeah it seems to be going terrific...

In order to qualify for the only two federal debates, a party needs to meet two of three criteria: it must be running candidates in at least 90% of Canada’s 343 ridings 28 days before the 28 April general election, poll above 4% and have a sitting member of parliament. They did not qualify, so they do not debate. This isn't a new rule.

Who said anything like that? 🙄 The point is that anything good he might be saying about the above is getting no traction because he's packaging it in low-brow Trump-style rhetoric. It serves no purpose other than riling up the base, but worse than that, it turns off the Red Tories that Poilievre needs to break out of rural and western Canada purgatory. As soon as he starts going off about "radical woke ideology", these folks stop taking him seriously and tune him out.

Read the room. Does sharing policies and rhetoric style with Trump, as Canadians unify against who he is, what he's doing and what he stands for, seem like good strategy to you?? In your mind, nearly 2/3 of the electorate "loathe" the conservatives for no other reason than because they are "conservatives"?. It has nothing to do with their policies, their rhetoric, and how much energy they spend promoting the priorities of the dumbest parts of their base? I mean, if you know most of the electorate doesn't like what you're doing, why do you keep running it back down the middle?