Moonbox

Who's everyone? The news isn't there to "represent you", and Rebel Media is not news and isn't interested in actually informing anyone. Don't take my word for that either. That was determined by a federal judge last September when Rebel's plea for public funding was denied (again) on the grounds that almost nothing they do qualifies as real journalism. The overwhelming majority of Rebel's content was found to not only to have no factual basis or research behind it, but what little that did was being pulled and curated/rewritten by other sources. Boohoo, Rebel doesn't get federal funding to make stuff up and repost what other people have written. Boohoo, Rebel doesn't get to seek out and stir up confrontations to subsequently cry about. 🙄

I went three times yesterday. First two times the wait was an hour (polling station was only a block away so I left). I came back 10 minutes before the doors closed, and just breezed through. Usually I would say a high turn out benefits the Liberals, since the Conservative vote is usually more motivated and better mobilized. Generally the polls error on the side of the Conservatives as well, and it's usually because so many young folk didn't bother actually getting out, and they were typically more liberal. This time? Who knows. Young men at least are polling more Conservative than they have been for a long time.

In what world is this: Read the room. Does sharing policies and rhetoric style with Trump, as Canadians unify against who he is, what he's doing and what he stands for, seem like good strategy to you?? the same thing as: So... the Conservatives shouldn't worry themselves over budget deficits or try to protect our borders or lower immigration or fight against Chinese influence or want lower taxes and smaller government because Orange man feels the same way? ????? I'm not sure you even know what planet a red tory comes from. As far as strawman goes, you have a pretty good example right there. The idea that conservatives shouldn't worry about all of those things is something you just made up. 🙃

Nope, and Trump was out there again recently repeating that Ukraine started the war! He's showing his true colors, as expected.

Then surely you can show that quote, right? Of course you can't. I would say that this sort of strawman and hyperbolic ranting is exactly what's turning red tories away. 🙃

Yeah it seems to be going terrific...

In order to qualify for the only two federal debates, a party needs to meet two of three criteria: it must be running candidates in at least 90% of Canada’s 343 ridings 28 days before the 28 April general election, poll above 4% and have a sitting member of parliament. They did not qualify, so they do not debate. This isn't a new rule.

Who said anything like that? 🙄 The point is that anything good he might be saying about the above is getting no traction because he's packaging it in low-brow Trump-style rhetoric. It serves no purpose other than riling up the base, but worse than that, it turns off the Red Tories that Poilievre needs to break out of rural and western Canada purgatory. As soon as he starts going off about "radical woke ideology", these folks stop taking him seriously and tune him out.

Read the room. Does sharing policies and rhetoric style with Trump, as Canadians unify against who he is, what he's doing and what he stands for, seem like good strategy to you?? In your mind, nearly 2/3 of the electorate "loathe" the conservatives for no other reason than because they are "conservatives"?. It has nothing to do with their policies, their rhetoric, and how much energy they spend promoting the priorities of the dumbest parts of their base? I mean, if you know most of the electorate doesn't like what you're doing, why do you keep running it back down the middle?

My dog eats kibble. My friend's dog eats wet food. ==== We Canadians get along.

Who's desperate here? Poilievre's campaign is the one that's flailing. I'm trying to explain why so many Canadians dislike and distrust him, and why it looks like he could actually be losing against an incumbent government that shouldn't have even the slightest chance. Right, so ranting about the WEF and globalist elites, undermining central banking and plugging crypto currencies were all focused on the "very real problems" of Canadian households? He avoided the culture-war nonsense while spending the last 3 years ranting about woke culture, woke policy, woke ideology, the woke criminal justice agenda and the Liberal's "radical woke agenda"? No offense, but that's utter nonsense. He talks about it constantly. He brings it up all over the place, and was even doing it today, in MTL: Just read that sentence out loud to yourself... While the Orange Blob is playing vandal to the USA's economy, reputation and justice system, and while Canadians watch nervously, genius Poilievre is still out there ranting about radical this and woke that, and pledging to overrule the Supreme Court on criminal sentencing? Like...WTAF!?

I imagine they'll talk about it, but the Orange Blob is still sucking all of the oxygen out of the room. Poilievre has embraced and promoted the stupidification of the Conservative Party, and while he's been ranting about woke, the WEF and shouting his slogans, undecided voters couldn't help but notice the similarities with Trumpism. That's not a bogeyman that the media invented - it's the image that little PP has cultivated all on his own, and it was working...until it stopped.

She's a PPC candidate in an NDP riding and she's going to get like 1-2% of the vote, almost all of which would come at the CPC's expense. What's more likely: A) The government that will only be helped by her siphoning votes away from their main competitors froze her accounts for "political reasons" or 2) The candidate from the quack party is actually a quack. HMMMmmmmm.....

I don't even think that homeless guy in Owen Sound is going beat this for dumbest thread of the year. 🤣

There were Liberal campaign signs vandalized on my way to hockey, and Michael Chong will 100% win the riding. Let's not pretend both sides don't do this, okay?

You strike me as someone that nobody wants to talk to, or engage with. Go start another 10 threads nobody reads. 🙃

It didn't occur to genius that part of maintaining security clearance is not sharing information with people who don't have security clearance. LOL.

If you think that out of the two, Carney and not Poilievre is the ideologue, I'm not sure you even understand what the word means. 🙃

Not putting a lot of faith in them is reasonable. Pretending they're meaningless is another. As a former statistician, I'm sure you can appreciate what a ~10 point lead means, and how hard that is to gap via polling variables. Not sure where this sort of comment leads us. Other than polls, which you've already said you don't much faith in, we don't actually have any objective information, so where does this thought lead us? Not a very useful point either, I would say. "Lots" of people still liked Trudeau, but when your net favorability is -25% and 60% of the population actively dislikes you, you have to hope they like the other guy even less. I think it Army Guy who said his pet hamster could beat Trudeau, and he was probably right. The problem is that the hamster might have been able to beat Poilievre too... 🤔

Two problems: 1) If you had any friends, or anyone in your life at all, you wouldn't be battlemoding 24/7 on an internet forum. 2) A healthy disdain for stupidity rules you out for any of these imaginary friends of yours anyway. 🤣👍

...but but King James Bible says...🫠

Short of an actual (rather than a desperately fabricated) scandal, I don't see it happening. The CPC always performs better than it polls, but the gap is so wide right now it's hard to imagine. Pierre Poilievre spent 2 years plugging his dumb Trumpish slogans, and he mistook the CPC's relative strength as his own success, rather than it being about Justin being a useless twat. Now that Justin's gone, his image as a juvenile sloganeer is all that's left.

It's just the stupidification of "conservative" politics - a veritable race to the bottom. After the Carney and Epstein story died out as the nothingburger it was, little PP has been flailing for a new angle. He needs that hot new slogan...People's Party Carney maybe? It can't be more than 3 words, otherwise his audience loses interest.

This is where I kind of turned away from the federal conservatives. The PM's office has always been powerful, but under Harper it solidified into the state it's in today. Mop head said he'd change that, but he was just as bad but dumber, so actually probably worse. My MP is Michael Chong. He is a common-sense, principled Conservative and won my everlasting respect standing up to Stephen Harper (don't even remember for what now) and lost his Cabinet position over it. That's when I realized the individual MP barely matters. The election is about the Party Leader.

Ignoring the fact that he's not even doing that, you're still here talking about people needing to get over partisanship while lauding the most partisan BS'er the world has probably ever seen. 🤷‍♂️