Moonbox

Because I didn't? 🤣 I'm not making any assumptions about it at all. That's you. Carney's advice could have been good, or it could have been bad. He could have offered a lot, or he could have offered very little. Justin could have listened, or Justin could have ignored him. You're the only one trying to spin a story here, insisting people make the same giant leap in logic that you did, which as always is the one best supports your bias! I was too generous in my assumptions for you. Let's look at the buffet of conspiracy theories you offered within this literary masterpiece: Inside you’ll discover: The truth behind ESG investing, carbon markets, and the financialization of climate change His connections to BlackRock, the World Economic Forum, and the architects of the “Great Reset” Oh yes, please! I need to learn more more about the "Great Reset" I'll do you a favor and assume this is just another one of those boneheaded and careless citations you lob out there without even reading what it's about. The alternative makes you look much worse.

Yep, just like you predicted the economy would collapse...what was it? 2 years ago? Hyperinflation! De-dollarization! New BRICS currency! Taxme knows things, and has all of the answers! 🤡

To be fair the integrity and independence of MP's disappeared long before Poilievre. That's been a long trend that accelerated under Harper and got much worse under Trudeau. Poilievre barred more than a few reasonable centrist MPs from running for the Conservatives, and stacked the party with loyal sycophants instead.

Sure. Where did I ever disagree with that? The question is what advice was given and what advice was taken? You don't actually know and neither do I, but you believe with absolute certainty in the answer that best serves your bias, as usual. What am I pulling out of my ass? Did you read the book or not? Of course you didn't. That begs the question, why are you telling people they should read something when you haven't read it yourself? It's just another example of you being absolutely certain of something that you don't actually know anything about. I'll tell you what though: I'll read his book when you do, and then we can compare notes. Sound good? 🙃

Great. You should invest life savings in it. If it doubles again, you'll be able to afford a bicycle!

No, I haven't said that ever, anywhere. Now you're being dishonest, and I think deliberately too! You really don't see how dumb it is to suggest people read a book that you yourself never read? It's kind of like citing an article and ranting about it without even reading it...but you'd never do that would you? 🙄

Get the formatting right, at least: Useless Fact #1 Useless Fact #2 ===== then you say "We Canadians get along"

Bigotry against what? Misinformation, conspiracy theories and culture war bullshit? OKAY! What we saw and what we heard sounded a lot like MAGA, and Canada passed on it. Your useless coping and seething after the fact don't change that. 🙃

Blowing a 25% lead in the polls, increasing Liberal vote share to the highest its been in 45 years, losing the election AND losing his own seat were always part of the endgame. Poilievre has the Liberals right where he wants them....

I'm saying that nobody knows what effect Carney had on Justin's policies. All we know is that for the first 5 years of Justin's tenure, he did perfectly fine screwing things up without Carney's input. It's just as likely that Carney stopped Justin from screwing things up even worse as anything else, but the only possibility you'll ever consider is the one that confirms what you've already chosen to believe. Your reality is based on filtering out any information that conflicts with your beliefs. Like you got, from not reading the book you're insisting we need to read? 🙃

That's exactly what I was making fun of you for, you absolute clown. I'll take the UK government being so impressed with how Carney performed that they hired him as the first non-British citizen to run the Bank of England in 300 years over the retarded yapping of an all-day internet no-life. 🤡

Okay sure: 🤡🤡🤡

Hold on there. If they invest in Bitcoin...

On the one hand, we have reality, where the Bank of Canada Governor attends to monetary policy independently of the government, and where Carney was judged to have done such a good job that he was recruited as the first non-Brit to run the Bank of England in 300 years. On the other hand, we have the flailing insistence of our forum's pre-eminent NEET telling us Carney had nothing to do with it. 🤡🤡🤡 ...and the fact that you think the former Conservative leader endorsing the new Conservative leader should be compelling tells us how much of a donkey you are.

That's why I called us "previously" reliable...until the old Reform Party losers and the culture-war assclowns took over the Party. Because you really couldn't get a much starker contrast than Carney to Trudeau. You're comparing a spoiled and empty-headed dandy who'd never had a real job in his life, to a big-brain economics PhD who keeps getting sought out and recruited to hold some of the most prestigious positions in his field. Reality exists beyond what the Conservative spin room is telling you, FYI.

Sorry, but nobody's twisting your words. You've just brought up the damage Trudeau did "under Carney", as if Justin was dancing to his tune, or something. Give me a break. Are we to believe that you read his book? 🙄 Yes, we know. That's called blind partisanship. You view everything as an all-or-nothing battle of Good vs Evil, and that everything the bad people (Liberals) say or do is by-default wrong in your mind, while you believe in and support basically everything the Good Guys say, regardless of how dumb it is.

Guess who else was "un-elected"? Or do we call it de-elected?

The election's over man. Carney was one of many informal advisors for Trudeau during the COVID response. He was made chair of their economic growth taskforce in September of 2024, which never had a chance to do much of anything. Trying to pin Trudeau's failures on Carney was a flimsy and desperate line of attack, and Canadians didn't buy it. Time to move on. No, you can't give me dozens of examples of the Liberals promoting right-wing conspiracy theories and adopting MAGA politics for the Canadian audience. You just can't. It's a comfy thought that you were the thoughtful ones, and nobody on the other side was, isn't it? Here's the crux of the problem for Poilievre though: Canadians DID like a lot of the CPC platform. Carney DID adopt a lot of it, and guess what happened? Canadians chose Carney as the better option to deliver on it, without the culture-war bullshit or a toxic shrill in charge.

Because they don't like Poilievre, and they hate his MAGA slob campaign manager. It's not just Ford either. PC Premier Tim Houston from Nova Scotia wants nothing to do with him. Poilievre makes enemies everywhere he goes. That's what happens when you're a caustic asshat.

Enough for him to lose an election to a party that was 20-25 points behind only a few months ago. It is quite simple. Poilievre has -20% net favorability. ~60% of the country can't stand him, and that number's remained steady for as long as he's been around. In that context, sure, he did exceptionally well...for a loser who lost his own seat. 😆 I hope that thought comforts you in the coming years. Hope and wish that the man who couldn't pivot from his slogans and says he rarely changes his mind, and who his party had to hide in the final week of the election has a come to Jesus moment. Pray that the next ~4 years of Trump doesn't leave baggage. Bet on the NDP coming back strong after losing official party status and bleeding its supporters to both the CPC and the Liberals. It'll all work out the way you want it to 🫂.

and then there was Trump, and Poilievre sounded like him, so they were. 🤡 Yeah but nobody gives a shit what you think or what you say. This weird notion you have that insisting on something hard enough manifests it in reality is good for nothing but laughs. Like with so many things, you can't handle a debate falling outside the narrow confines of your hysterical tribalism, so you warp reality around yourself to make it fit. The idea that previously reliable conservative voters want nothing to do with Pierre Poilievre's retarded populism literally breaks your brain.

He managed to get 50% of his constituents to vote against him and boot him out of office. It seems you're the one having trouble understanding. 😆

It's not just about how many people vote for you. It's also about how many vote against you. While you cope with the loss and soothe yourself with the idea that he increased the share of the popular vote, digest this along with it: The Liberal vote was the highest it's been in 45 years. You have to be 41 different kinds of stupid to pretend that losing the election is a "fantastic performance", especially when it's losing to a party that was polling around 20% months ago. 🙃

They'll do it again too, if the CPC and Poilievre deliver more of the same. It wasn't just the NDP and Bloc supporters either, but the Greens and a lot of Small C conservatives as well. I voted for Harper the whole time he was PM, and I spent my first 7 years on this forum arguing on his behalf. People like me want nothing to do with MAGA or Poilievre's cheap karaoke version of it. Quebec is the province where Poilievre is the least popular. I don't think he regrets not signing on with the dude that most of the province hates. 😑