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Of course he's lying. I was just trying to tell you what he was basing the lie on. As you say, in the '80s when the first free trade deal was signed canada's trade with the US jumped by about 10 times and we started running massive trade surpluses to them which means a deficit for them. It's one of the things that helped us deal with our insane runaway debt along with the GST introduction. And it's worth noting it even before then we still had a trade surplus with them just smaller To call that a subsidy is !diotic. I buy groceries for my grocer every week and he pays me nothing so technically I have a trade deficit with him, but nobody would suggest that he is subsidizing me in any way shape or form. And that trade works in my favor, I get to have food and such. He's playing games to try and turn the American opinion against Canada so that they will support his trade negotiations. Which is why it's a bad idea for Trudeau to help him out by insulting Americans at the same time

But that's not even remotely true. His promise was a 10 billion dollar deficit for 3 years and then back to balance. But by the time covid had rolled around he had already increased the debt by about a hundred billion dollars. That was almost a 20% increase in international debt during times of prosperity when we should have been doing well and not needing to borrow anything. Harper had turned over a balanced budget and a full economic recovery from the great recession. So to be clear he was a disaster before covid. And the majority of his debt during covid did not come from covid spending. Yes, covid relief cost us money but the vast majority of the money was spent elsewhere. It's fair to say that during 2000 and 2001 revenues were down due to covid and that played a role but he deliberately chose to increase spending during that time rather than trying to offset those losses. He has just always been absolutely devastatingly horrible with money

The liberals have always been a bit of a white knight party. And I don't say that as a particularly scathing criticism or anything, as history shows it can work. But they have a habit of looking for that magical King Arthur leader who can receive Excalibur from the lady of the lake and step forth and all Canadians will love them to death and vote for them regardless based on charisma alone. It's no joke that hair and socks helped push Trudeau's fortunes forward significantly. When you look at their history all of their great leaders have been extremely charismatic laurentian elite types or at least swam in those circles. Trudeau is extremely charismatic, chretien was extremely charismatic, previous trudeau extremely charismatic, etc etc. Turner not so charismatic, gone quickly Dion, igantief even martin not charismatic, gone in short order. And right now there's a shortage of 'white knights' in the wings, so they're reaching a little. The problem is that used to work historically because most of the votes come from Ontario and Quebec. And that Laurentian Elite kind of popularity works there, and the leaders that were picked tend to be well known there, you didn't see a lot of westerners getting picked to lead the party. But while it's still true that the majority of the boats in Canada are in Ontario and Quebec that has severely reduced. The western provinces now have more seats than Quebec does. And that stands to continue to change in favor of the west. And westerners are not as easily impressed by the kind of people that the east finds politically charismatic. IT's hard to win a majority without strong western support now. And in the not too distant future it may not be possible to win even a minority without strong western support. You're right, they need to get back to the basics and rebuild and pick a leader in the future who isn't just another laureation elite running on charisma. But i don't think that's going to happen soon.

No not really, and I'm not sure I would even argue that he was their worst leader. But he was one of their worst campaigners and as he himself would write later the machinations inside the liberal party itself are brutal and if you are an outsider it is extremely difficult to navigate. The reason I chose him was because that was another example of the liberals looking outside the party for a white night who they could drop in to radically change their failing fortunes after their consecutive defeats. Which is what we're looking at when we're discussing Mark Carney. Carney has never run an election. He's never even won his own seat. He has no ties within the party other than a few people who would like to use him for their own purposes like Gerald butts. So you're going to have a guy with no political experience, no ties to the party and remembering that the party is vicious in its internal power plays, a guy who's not well known in Canada so he can't run on star power, And basically that was the exact circumstances with ignatief. Now if he runs and wins a seat, spends a little time in the party and in the house, Raises his public profile etc then after a term or two he might be able to run and when the liberal leadership and possibly even an election. But right now and likely even in 2028 he will probably get slaughtered and there's just no two ways about it just as Ignatief was and for the same reasons

Yeah. Same with the mayerthorpe killer So at some point what needs to happen is that everyone needs to put the politics aside and take a real look at not just "gun" violence or "knife" violence etc but rather violence. What can we reasonably do about criminals who are wantonly violent? What can we do to stop violence in the home (against anyone, men women or children), what supports are needed there to reduce that. How do we catch people before they become mass killers and address them? Do we need more public training to recognize danger signs, do we need red flag rules and more psychiatric support teams, backed by legal empowerment if necessary? How can we intervene if we think there's an issue without making it worse? And of course, we need to change how we deal with violent offenders. Right now they're getting out immediately after being arrested and frequently reoffend. We also need to improve 'dangerous offender' laws so that if someone is chronically violent we can remove them from society until they're safe. It would be nice if they could smarten up in the states, they're further behind than us. Dems need to forget about gun bans and republicans need to give up their fear that ANY changes will lead to more gun bans, and they need to start talking about better models for background checks and red flag laws and educating their own people on what to look for before someone becomes homicidal etc etc. But i don't know how you get there. IF there's a shooting, there's an instant attack from the left on banning guns and an instant digging in of heels and angry replies from the republicans and that runs pretty deep now so how do you get past it?

I think the numbers get so large that people start to tune it out. However many hundred million for the arrive can app, 500 million for this, 100 million for diversity hiring in Africa a billion dollar environmental slush fund, it's like every week. Now it's just expected, of course the liberals are siphoning off hundreds of millions of dollars. It's a little bit of a magician's slight of hand. Has a criminal or con man the only thing better than not being caught ever is to be caught so often that nobody cares anymore

It has gone up. Once again you've kind of proven my point. And rather than deal with it and looking at addressing it we see the liberals going for gun control against lawful law-abiding citizens Which is exactly what I say, we see it up here as well as in the states Doesn't matter in the slightest. Nobody compared to the US to Canada as far as rates go I just said it was going up in Canada and that liberals are refusing to have a serious conversation about what the problem is and instead of going after gun owners while it continues to rise By the way here's a little chart of that not going up much thing. This is violent crime in Canada. Do you remember anything happening in 2015? Wasn't there an election? Canada: violent crime rate 2023 | Statista oh and here's the homicide rate Homicide rate in Canada 2023 | Statista hmmmm.. Things changed after 2015 again..... And most of that violence is being directed at children rather than adults Children and Youth as Victims of Violent Crime - National Victims of Crime Awareness Week Liberals in Canada are watching the crime and death rates Climb and doing nothing except attacking lawful gun owners which doesn't do a thing. So it would seem that the problem on both sides of the border are not the conservatives. You'll have to look in a mirror to see the problem

Fair Point. I think that Dominic would have the advantage of connections inside the party, he's been building his base in there religiously for ages and even though he's associated with Justin Trudeau he could probably pull a lot of internal party support and that means something in the liberals when it comes to leadership races That said that freeland is getting a hell of a lot more liberal love than I thought she was for backstabbing Justin. They say it the liberal Christmas party the lineup to shake her hand was considerably longer than his and she seems to get standing ovations everywhere she goes. So I don't know, she might be able to pull together enough support to make a real serious run of it. But I think she would definitely Kim Campbell it once the actual election started

Well the other judges seemed to agree with him And it looks like the feds were unable to push forward with an appeal, so...... Sorry but that really was kind of like being a dictator wasn't it Anyway don't let being wrong upset you too much, just Use your emotional support down arrow and move on, you'll probably get to sleep sometime tonight I'm sure of it 😆🤣😅

100 billion is about our trade deficit with the states. He appears to be confusing that with a subsidy. We have a lot of raw materials that we sell America. Oil electricity lumber steel etc as well as car parts that trade hands across the border We buy comparatively little because we are a small nation with fewer people than California. So we buy less than we sell. That's why he's saying we're subsidized. But that's a stupid as saying you've been subsidizing the local grocery store because you buy more from them than they buy from you. There's no doubt that it's all bullshit, he doesn't understand what he's talking about at all

Judge says otherwise. It was ruled to be one that they didn't deserve it But hey, what does a Canadian Court Judge know 🙄

LOL you are just so broken

no, we see it up here too. Under the liberal rule children and adult mortality due to Crime has skyrocketed while liberals collect guns from lawful owners and ignore the criminals. Sadly that's your country You and your leftie friends are quite content to sit and watch kids die rather than address real issues it would seem.

It's always so hard to say in these cases, it really will boil down to their skills at campaigning and none of them have really been front and center for that, so who can say how well they'd do. If they had a respectable amount of time to prepare then sure, anand or joly maybe. But even if they got picked tomorrow we're well under a year till the start of the next election and that is NOT enough time to do a good job of it unless you're very experienced. And there would still be the leadership which usually lasts 9 months on its own, even if they rush it in 3 or 4 there's just no time for putting together a strong campaign. It would be all about pure charisma. Holland would have no chance, leblanc MAAAYBE? and anand or joly maybe but frankly i woudln't like any of their chances, and it could easily go the other way and be a kim campbell moment if they werent careful.

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Yeash dude, everyone knows you know you're wrong but you're too butthurt to admit it when you go all 'capsaholic' like that You should avoid anger typing. It's no good for your heart OR your caps key

There is zero chance there. He's never even fought an election, and the liberal party has Michael ignadia found out is a vicious circling pool of nastiness and if you haven't been in it long enough to establish a power base it will chew you up. Which is why mark has already told the liberals he will not run for them in the next election and he wants nothing to do with helping Trudeau with the budget because it's a mess and he realizes he'll get slaughtered. It's possible he could run in the future and establish himself in the party and then run for leadership but if he tried right now he would get eaten alive. There are a couple of others who might have a chance at staving off absolute disaster but to be honest all too smart to likely consider it. And the party has very little to run on. Honestly the best choice would be to prepare a really great budget, get your ducks in a row and release the budget and call an election in March with about a 6 to 8 week run and a late may election date and just go to the polls running on your budget.

They don't have a policy, and they know they don't need a policy because they're never going to be elected government. But sure, show me their costed plan and platform for addressing the deficit. I'll wait. Elizabeth may's platform is before lunch Donuts, after lunch Chardonnay

I believe it's repairable. It won't happen quickly but it can happen People seem to have finally realized that if you vote woke ya go broke, and they're willing to throw out both the NDP and the liberals and focus on making Canada great again. The lefties have pushed people so hard that they've even turned against immigration and climate change which is absolutely shocking. Countries aren't great because they never make mistakes. What makes countries great is their ability to realize their mistakes and recover from them. Obviously letting the left run the country was an absolute unmitigated disastrous mistake, but people realize it and they appear to be 100% ready to fix that mistake. And people like DUI are going to cry like babies as things get better under proper right wing guidance. We've still got a lot to do, there's still threats we'll have to over come but i believe we can rise to the occasion

Well in fairness Dui usually does stick it out and posts cites to back up his points. Sure, the cites he provides almost always prove he's entirely wrong and for some reason he provides them any way but the important thing is he's trying. And failing, But trying! Which is more than we can say for most of the others.

For now we are. But she may very well have triggered an early election which would indeed be a gift

Yes yes, everybody who disagrees with you is bad stupid orange evil dum dum dum There you go folks, the "Tolerant "? Left

Anything's possible but I doubt it. I absolutely guarantee that the NDP won't vote for it until the end of February and Jaggers has his pension. It's possible he may decide to step down but I have doubts about that too. The right thing for him to do normally would be to step down now and then parliament to give time for a new leadership race to guarantee the opposition didn't call a no confidence vote before they picked a new leader. Except for the fact that We've got a trade war scheduled to start january 20th. I think he'll argue something about not changing canoes midstream and try and stick it out.

Ok THIS time he's not leaving and will be staying for now Trudeau says he won’t quit but will reflect on events in wake of Freeland’s resignation - The Globe and Mail I just don't know how you can have a scrap of decency and not quit at this point it's pretty sick for him to just continue on with literally no support for his leadership

You can help with the nomination process for heaven's sake. You can talk people into running for nomination that are people that you feel are representative of your circumstances and not w e f. Only those who believe they are powerless are powerless