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  1. It'll have to be linked to your Health Card. Border Services are using an App. But yeah, the proof of vaccination I received is easily forged.
  2. Or we can ban unvaccinated people from receiving critical care for acute respiratory illness. As I said, if the case count means Healthcare is taxed, which is what's happening in Florida right now, then yes, take away their rights.
  3. And those people benefit greatly from a reduced price of Real Estate. There are fuel efficient options that don't involve Public Transportation.
  4. If it means cancelling surgeries and shutting down indoor public gatherings that don't involve buying food, they certainly will. You're essentially protecting the unvaccinated from themselves. It's too late to "Come to Jesus" when you're dying in an ICU. https://www.heraldsun.com/news/coronavirus/article253247308.html
  5. https://toronto.citynews.ca/2021/08/05/quebec-vaccine-passport-system/ https://www.axios.com/new-york-coronavirus-vaccine-passports-mandates-e047dec9-d07a-484f-97ab-33afb6490049.html Quebec really jumped the gun on this. They had announced plans to do it. But case counts under 200 don't really justify it yet. I guess it's assumed as school returns cases will skyrocket, as they did last year. Ontario has not pledged to do this. But it's certainly preferable to another Lockdown. If unvaccinated people are fuelling another spike in Hospitalizations, it's certainly has to happen.
  6. Yes. This only ends when the disease in endemic. If almost everyone can get it an only experience mild or no symptoms, then war will be over. That's not the case with the Delta Variant in largely unvaccinated communities.
  7. I think sensible/intelligent people can consider both units of measurements. Feet/Inches are still the standard in a lot of industries. But grams, litres and kilometres are a lot more sensible. Regarding Gas Prices, it's just going to get worse. You're actually lucky gas prices aren't higher. I remember in 2008 when $1.40/litre prices were stressing me out. We thought we'd see $2.00/litre soon. Never happened. We need to be moving away from fossil fuels. Carbon taxes are an excellent way to make people consider their transportation choices more carefully.
  8. Awww poor Muffin doesn't want to wear a mask. BC is now reporting double the cases of Ontario with less than half the population. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-update-aug-4-1.6128995
  9. Here's an interesting tidbit from today's Ontario Covid-19 numbers. https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-reports-139-new-covid-19-cases-11-more-deaths-1.5533975 This speaks to the idea that deaths are just being attributed to COVID-19. Clearly investigations into these deaths are happening, at least in Canada. No need to pad the stats 7 months later.
  10. The bigger ethical concern with Boosters is that 3/4 of the world still haven't been given access to the vaccine. Shots should be more broadly available, globally, before giving people 3rd shots in parts of the first world.
  11. It becomes endemic. As we've discovered you can still get it and it can still mutate, you just won't get very sick. If you're looking at it from a completely selfish perspective, sure don't get a booster. There may very well be a variant that evades vaccine protection. But there's a reason different Flu Shots are available every year. BTW the Science on Vaccines is that there have been no provable long-term effects to ANY of them. If you were to get a side-effect, you would get it in the first two months. https://www.smh.com.au/national/how-do-we-know-vaccines-won-t-have-long-term-safety-risks-20210803-p58fc7.html
  12. The only real restrictions we're seeing now is masks indoors. It's annoying, but yes we've adapted.
  13. For someone who pretends to understand science, you don't know that boosters are required when dealing with a virus that mutates? People not getting vaccines in the first place makes mutations more likely.
  14. Daily cases back above 100,000 and daily deaths just reached 500 in the US. 

    It's a lot worse because those figures are coming from only a handful of states. 

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    2. Boges

      Boges

      Numbers don't look so bad when you consider it on a National scale. But when you realize that a vast majority of the cases are coming from Mouth-breathing southern states with vaccination rates in the 30% range. 

      You can see why it's an issue. 

      Florida is breaking Hospitalization records. 

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/florida-covid-19-hospitalizations-1.6127804

    3. Infidel Dog

      Infidel Dog

      Boges calls noticing the tens - soon to be hundreds - of thousands of untested boarder jumpers from around the world storming in through America's southern border "xenophobia." Others think it's just noticing the obvious.

      Progressive media and covid hysterics concentrating on Florida like the CBC did in the article Boges posted is also obvious. Here's why:

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      DeSantis is running for re-election next year while eyeing a 2024 presidential bid. A central tenet of his national image among conservatives is his refusal to impose mask mandates at schools and in public or to impose restrictions on businesses. He hit that message again Tuesday, saying he will not budge.

      "We are not shutting down," DeSantis said. "We are going to have schools open. We are protecting every Floridian's job in this state. We are protecting people's small businesses. These interventions have failed time and time again throughout this pandemic, not just in the United States but abroad. They have not stopped the spread, particularly with delta."

       

      They don't tell you that Florida is one of, the most  affected by the Biden regime's open border policies. Note, the new Biden order isn't just letting the untested, unmasked through, they're putting them on planes and buses then shipping them around the states where their votes will be needed. Florida is one of the most popular destinations. 

      Also the illegals are jammed into tight expanses throughout their journey. Those are super-spreader situations. 

      And if say a sudden surge of those infected coming in from Haiti, West Africa, Honduras etc. turns up on a chart you can bet Boges or the CBC will be telling you about it. They just won't be telling you who they are.

      And they love to tell you stories of sudden infection numbers or how some Prog doctor they found sees patients being packed in the hallway but they won't show you none-scary graphs like active cases in Florida.

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    4. Boges

      Boges

      Are these charts sufficiently scary?

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

      The most daily deaths since March. 

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  15. Over 50,000 COVID-19 cases in the US. Daily deaths back over 400. Even prominent Republicans are speaking out against Anti-Vaxxers. They know they're going to have to own this. 

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    2. Shady

      Shady

      There was a Canadian study recently that said most people that died of covid were highly likely to have died sometime that year regardless of covid.

    3. Boges

      Boges

      You mean your True North study analyzing stats from 2020?

      Again, it doesn't take into account variants and the worst case counts seen during the pandemic this Spring

      Because younger people were getting sick, the death-rate was less, but it didn't mean Hospitalization wasn't skyrocketing. 

      This is why lockdown measures were required! You didn't do anything to stem the infection death rates would have skyrocketed. Hospitals would have had to triage people and unplug those they thought may not survive. 

      Like seen in the US in the winter, before they got the vaccine. 

      Lockdowns were a preventative measure, and they worked. 

    4. Boges

      Boges

      Another reason death in Canada was less than a country like the US, was because public safety measures stayed in place for most of the pandemic. 

      And they still are in place. 

      The US lowered their guard before reaching a good vaccination rate and now there are parts of the US back to where they started. 

  16. This time it's the US dragging its feet on border re-opening. Probably because they have no way to ensure someone's vaccinated. 

    1. Boges

      Boges

      Canadians will welcome vaccinated Americans to the US on August 9th. A boon to Canada's economy. 

    2. Argus

      Argus

      II suspect the issue for the US is Mexico, not Canada. But they don't want to say so because Hispanics are an important voting block for Democrats.

    3. Boges

      Boges

      Well so are Border town communities in states like Michigan, New York, Maine, Wisconsin etc etc etc. 

      This can't be met well for their tourism industries. 

  17. Who says they aren't. We see that in the US and the UK that Healthcare systems can still be overwhelmed by morons that don't get vaccinated. And then you get the cancelled surgeries and triaging that your ilk will further rage about. A feedback loop of people lacking critical thinking. In the status updates, Shady said that the unvaccinated shouldn't be allowed into the ICU. Would love to see it.
  18. I think Quebec has the right idea. If numbers of unvaccinated rise, they get locked down. Impose Vaccine passports to access things like indoor dining, gyms, theatres and other indoor public activities.
  19. It's a bizarre narrative Trump is peddling. The anti-vax sentiment, in the US, is driven by the public's distrust of Biden. . . But he's just trying to get people to take the vaccine you take credit for having developed.
  20. Or no international travel while unvaccinated. Well you can, but you still have to quarantine, upon return.
  21. People with HIV/AIDs are still banned from giving blood, I believe.
  22. Canada moves past the US in percentage of the population fully vaccinated. 

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    2. bush_cheney2004

      bush_cheney2004

      Why wouldn't you believe it ?   So little confidence in Trudeau/Canada ?

    3. Aristides

      Aristides

      Too much confidence in the US, it has been swimming in vaccines since the new year and still can't get its act together

    4. bush_cheney2004

      bush_cheney2004

      Canada has yet to produce an approved covid vaccine.

  23. #1 you can't ban businesses from choosing who they want to do business with (above things like Race, Gender etc). I think in Florida a Cruiseship company is challenging the Governor for banning them from ensuring all staff and guest are vaccinated. You know Universities are going to demand all students be vaccinated.
  24. The State of Florida recorded 7000 COVID-19 cases yesterday. All of Canada reported around 400. 

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    2. Boges

      Boges

      And you still don't get that Hospitalizations are a lag indicator of case counts. 

      See what's happening in Missouri right now. 

      Regardless, I thought COVID-19 was done in the US? Doesn't seem so. 

    3. Shady

      Shady

      Hospitalizations won’t be as much of a lagging indicator as before vaccinations.  Florida is almost 50% fully vaccinated.  Regardless, vaccines are widely available.  Anybody that wants one can get one.  It’s not up to other people to shut down their lives to protect people.  And Florida has been open for months, so we’re at least 3 months behind them.  Our numbers will go up in the fall.

    4. Aristides

      Aristides

      By the fall, Canada will be 80% fully vaccinated, the US seems stuck at 50%.

  25. The US saw the most COVID-19 cases since mid-May. They're going in the wrong direction. With no public safety measures in place, numbers will continue to rise. Deaths are also up. 

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    2. Boges

      Boges

      It's a good thing you make public health policy Dr. Shady. 

       

    3. Shady

      Shady

      I speak the truth.  Even you deep down inside agree.  The decision of unvaccinated people shouldn’t impede the lives of the vaccinated.

    4. Boges

      Boges

      I totally agree. But that's just not healthcare works. 

      The problem we're going to see is that variants will keep popping up the more people treat the virus like they have in the US. 

      Eventually the vaccine will lose its effectiveness. Which is why we get Flu Shots every year. 

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