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You clearly don't understand the purpose of a vaccine.

Incorrect.

Even though breakthrough infections happen, the vaccine does reduce the chance of it. And the randomness of COVID means that you really don't know if being healthy is enough. AND people don't know if they have a co-morbidity. We're quibbling here. Vaccinating children isn't really the priority. But in the US, it's going up.

But also "suitable". So why not? There are a myriad of vaccines children are already mandated to have.

That's for children under 12. Who aren't currently eligible. Speaks nothing about healthy older adults.

Now we're being anecdotal. Not back to normal but certainly not locked away not seeing family like we saw last winter.

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And, any decision on mandating vaccines will be based on those numbers. One would hope.

I don't see anywhere that they say younger people "shouldn't" get vaccinated. Perhaps cite that part. I only see it mention that older people with compromised immune systems should be prioritized when supply is an issue. It's not an issue in Canada. BTW this didn't work in Ontario as older people could isolate and stay home. The 3rd wave was driven by younger essential workers in urban areas who had no access to the vaccine.

That's the point. More infection, the more change of serious illness and death. Old people aren't locked away much anymore. . . Because they're vaccinated.

BTW what's an objective co-morbidity for someone under 60? A BMI above 30?

Again, due to a good vaccination rate and much more vaccinated people that not. Hopefully we'll see the same in Canada. Why not look to the US and see how an under vaccinated population deals with the Delta Variant.

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No but we saw lots of younger people hit by the Alpha Variant that caused the 3rd wave. I posted this yesterday. https://www.cp24.com/news/pandemic-s-third-wave-hits-people-in-their-20s-30s-with-more-illness-and-blame-1.5370882?cache=%2F7.609312 The hope is that the vaccination rate in Canada will blunt the Delta effects seen in parts of the US who are seeing Hospitalization rates as bad as they've ever been. And I hope that happens, but if it doesn't Vaccine Passport FTW. And private business will be on board too, not just "fascist" governments.

Those over 70 are also largely vaccinated. Which is why clinging to stats that include the first 9 months of the pandemic is completely irrelevant. Especially when you're peddling nonsense that young people don't need the vaccine.

What benchmark gets set for that? Much safer if everyone gets an overwhelmingly safe vaccine. All the stats provided don't show the new threat variants provide. You're diluting your stats by piling on original strain figures. Show figures starting March 2021 if you want to declare that anyone under 40 doesn't need the vaccine. Because that's just insanity.

Facts https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/05/01/992148299/covid-doesnt-discriminate-by-age-serious-cases-on-the-rise-in-younger-adults And this if from May. Much worse now. Cite the Car accident stat? And in what age group?

Young people are getting sick from this Delta variant. That's the dangerous new narrative coming from the Anti-Vax crowd. That young people don't need it. Herd immunity means everyone should get it. As for long-term side effects. The science isn't behind the fear as side-effects for vaccines have historically never shown up after 2 months. https://www.muhealth.org/our-stories/how-do-we-know-covid-19-vaccine-wont-have-long-term-side-effects So any fear of us all getting cancer in 10 years is just anti-vax fear mongering.

Because a lot of that is misinformation. The biggest evidence that the vaccines are safe is that 80% of Canadians have taken it and the side effects have been documented. If people were dying in droves, even the most authoritarian government couldn't hide that.

There's practically a zero chance it will kill you.

Many workplaces didn't have proper COVID-19 policies until last fall.

Why shouldn't Healthcare workers get vaccinated? They're the ones in close contact with the most vulnerable people. And if you don't get vaccinated, you'll have to regularly get tested. We're still in a Pandemic, if you haven't noticed. Stop looking for fascism everywhere.

I think a lot of the cases we're seeing now are part of screening. Anyone who has the sniffles has to get tested. That infrastructure wasn't in place last Summer. I hope we stop that soon as vaccination should deem that un-needed.