Will Poillievre Try To Sabotage 24 Sussex Restoration ?

[BeaverFever]

Carney kicks off competition to renovate 24 Sussex Dr.
 

Prime Minister Mark Carney has launched a competition to pick a Canadian company to renovate 24 Sussex Dr., the official residence of the prime minister, which has been shuttered since 2015 because of its physical decline.

But during a news conference Friday at the front door of the residence, Mr. Carney declined to get into specifics about the budget of the enterprise, saying the cost will hinge on the ideas advanced to upgrade the property.

The winning company will have to deal with the design of the renovation and also see through the execution.

“I don’t want to be too forward on what the budget is for this because, in many respects, that’s part of the competition,” Mr. Carney said.

He said it is time to act to save the residence of the prime minister.

“24 Sussex Drive is more than a residence, greater than a mere backdrop to history. It is a symbol of the public office of the head of our federal government and of the democratic tradition that office represents,” he said. “And yet, it has not been cared for with the respect it deserves.”

 

 

“We will not let it crumble. We will set it right.”

He said it will become a secure, accessible and sustainable residence for future prime ministers.

First built in 1868, the 35-room residence became the home for prime ministers in 1951 and served in that role through to 2015 when Justin Trudeau was unable to move his family in because of the state of the property.

Instead, Mr. Trudeau and his family settled in Rideau Cottage on the grounds of nearby Rideau Hall where governors-general live and work. Mr. Carney also lives in that cottage.

Mr. Carney said the plan is for the Rideau Hall Foundation, a non-partisan national charitable organization established to amplify the work of the Office of the Governor-General, to raise money for the project.

The Prime Minister said the foundation will not accept corporate donations but will allow donations from individuals and philanthropic organizations. There will be a limit on donations, and the names of donors will be made public.

And he said the government will cover the security costs associated with the revived 24 Sussex Drive.

Prime Minister Mark Carney unveiled plans Friday to restore the prime minister's residence at 24 Sussex Dr. in Ottawa through a national design competition and fundraising campaign.

THE CANADIAN PRESS

Mr. Carney said former prime ministers Stephen Harper and Jean Chrétien, who had previously offered to raise funds for the renovation, will provide advice on how to proceed.

Also, he praised former prime ministers Joe Clark, Kim Campbell, Paul Martin and Mr. Trudeau for expressing their support for the renovation.

Asked how the fundraising process can be protected from outside influence, Mr. Carney said the Rideau Hall Foundation will solicit and collect donations but have no influence on the decision of the jury chaired by noted Canadian architect Moshe Safdie.

The Royal Architectural Institute of Canada will set out the specifications of the competition, and the winner will be announced by Canada Day of 2027.

Mr. Carney said he does not expect to ever live in the 35-room home.

“But some future prime ministers will undoubtably need to raise their children here as they lead their country. We will restore it so they may do so safely and securely,”

Mr. Carney said Mr. Safdie, whose buildings have included Habitat 67 at Expo 67 in Montreal as well as the Vancouver Library Square, was asked about his thoughts on the property.

“It’s an extraordinary site,” Mr. Safdie told journalists after Mr. Carney’s remarks. “It’s a site with extraordinary potential. I think something wonderful can be developed here.”

Mr. Carney said he had been inside 24 Sussex once, meeting there with Mr. Martin while the latter was prime minister, and that it was “literally stripped down to the studs and barely held together.” 

Mr. Carney thanked the National Capital Commission – commission CEO Tobi Nussbaum was present for the news conference – for maintaining the property. The commission manages official residences in the Ottawa region.

The NCC led a $4.3-million “abatement and decommissioning project” at 24 Sussex, which included clearing out the house and cataloguing its heritage features, as well as removing dangerous substances such as asbestos. The commission has said this project, which concluded in 2024, was necessary “regardless of any decision made about the future of the residence.”

The Prime Minister said he has been struck by a broad sense of interest among Canadians in doing something about the house.

That, he said, led him to conclude that Canadians are interested in taking on a role in dealing with the matter.

Mr. Carney was asked about how Rideau Cottage has worked out as a residence.

“It works as a place to live and I’m grateful for the RCMP and the security that’s provided,” he said.

“It isn’t the official residence of the Prime Minister.”

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-24-sussex-drive-mark-carney-announcement/

 

 

Edited Friday at 09:03 PM by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Carney kicks off competition to renovate 24 Sussex Dr.
 

Prime Minister Mark Carney has launched a competition to pick a Canadian company to renovate 24 Sussex Dr., the official residence of the prime minister, which has been shuttered since 2015 because of its physical decline.

But during a news conference Friday at the front door of the residence, Mr. Carney declined to get into specifics about the budget of the enterprise, saying the cost will hinge on the ideas advanced to upgrade the property.

The winning company will have to deal with the design of the renovation and also see through the execution.

“I don’t want to be too forward on what the budget is for this because, in many respects, that’s part of the competition,” Mr. Carney said.

He said it is time to act to save the residence of the prime minister.

“24 Sussex Drive is more than a residence, greater than a mere backdrop to history. It is a symbol of the public office of the head of our federal government and of the democratic tradition that office represents,” he said. “And yet, it has not been cared for with the respect it deserves.”

 

 

“We will not let it crumble. We will set it right.”

He said it will become a secure, accessible and sustainable residence for future prime ministers.

First built in 1868, the 35-room residence became the home for prime ministers in 1951 and served in that role through to 2015 when Justin Trudeau was unable to move his family in because of the state of the property.

Instead, Mr. Trudeau and his family settled in Rideau Cottage on the grounds of nearby Rideau Hall where governors-general live and work. Mr. Carney also lives in that cottage.

Mr. Carney said the plan is for the Rideau Hall Foundation, a non-partisan national charitable organization established to amplify the work of the Office of the Governor-General, to raise money for the project.

The Prime Minister said the foundation will not accept corporate donations but will allow donations from individuals and philanthropic organizations. There will be a limit on donations, and the names of donors will be made public.

And he said the government will cover the security costs associated with the revived 24 Sussex Drive.

Prime Minister Mark Carney unveiled plans Friday to restore the prime minister's residence at 24 Sussex Dr. in Ottawa through a national design competition and fundraising campaign.

THE CANADIAN PRESS

Mr. Carney said former prime ministers Stephen Harper and Jean Chrétien, who had previously offered to raise funds for the renovation, will provide advice on how to proceed.

Also, he praised former prime ministers Joe Clark, Kim Campbell, Paul Martin and Mr. Trudeau for expressing their support for the renovation.

Asked how the fundraising process can be protected from outside influence, Mr. Carney said the Rideau Hall Foundation will solicit and collect donations but have no influence on the decision of the jury chaired by noted Canadian architect Moshe Safdie.

The Royal Architectural Institute of Canada will set out the specifications of the competition, and the winner will be announced by Canada Day of 2027.

Mr. Carney said he does not expect to ever live in the 35-room home.

“But some future prime ministers will undoubtably need to raise their children here as they lead their country. We will restore it so they may do so safely and securely,”

Mr. Carney said Mr. Safdie, whose buildings have included Habitat 67 at Expo 67 in Montreal as well as the Vancouver Library Square, was asked about his thoughts on the property.

“It’s an extraordinary site,” Mr. Safdie told journalists after Mr. Carney’s remarks. “It’s a site with extraordinary potential. I think something wonderful can be developed here.”

Mr. Carney said he had been inside 24 Sussex once, meeting there with Mr. Martin while the latter was prime minister, and that it was “literally stripped down to the studs and barely held together.” 

Mr. Carney thanked the National Capital Commission – commission CEO Tobi Nussbaum was present for the news conference – for maintaining the property. The commission manages official residences in the Ottawa region.

The NCC led a $4.3-million “abatement and decommissioning project” at 24 Sussex, which included clearing out the house and cataloguing its heritage features, as well as removing dangerous substances such as asbestos. The commission has said this project, which concluded in 2024, was necessary “regardless of any decision made about the future of the residence.”

The Prime Minister said he has been struck by a broad sense of interest among Canadians in doing something about the house.

That, he said, led him to conclude that Canadians are interested in taking on a role in dealing with the matter.

Mr. Carney was asked about how Rideau Cottage has worked out as a residence.

“It works as a place to live and I’m grateful for the RCMP and the security that’s provided,” he said.

“It isn’t the official residence of the Prime Minister.”

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-24-sussex-drive-mark-carney-announcement/

 

 

I ask the question in the OP because I predict he won’t be able to resist playing shameless politics and accusing Carney of “building himself a mansion while Canadians struggle” or some other such nonsense   This kind of shameful politicking by both parties is why 24 Sussex got destroyed in the first place. This is why we can’t have nice things. 

Edited Friday at 11:34 PM by BeaverFever

[SpankyMcFarland]

24 Sussex must be restored. It’s a national symbol. We are surely still capable of doing that? I sincerely hope this matter does not become a political football. 

Edited Saturday at 01:16 AM by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

If offices are added to make it more like 10 Downing Street I would want to see something in keeping with the original building in style and scale - actually, as close as possible to the original building, not some “monstrous carbuncle on the face of an elegant and much-loved friend” as our head of state described a proposed extension to the National Gallery in the UK. 

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/sep/28/carbuncles-king-charles-iii-royal-familys-supertroll-architecture

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 02:05 AM by SpankyMcFarland

[I am Groot]

16 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

I ask the question in the OP because I predict he won’t be able to resist playing shameless politics and accusing Carney of “building himself a mansion while Canadians struggle” or some other such nonsense   This kind of shameful politicking by both parties is why 24 Sussex got destroyed in the first place. This is why we can’t have nice things. 

You really are kind of crazed. You raise the question because you presume he will make unreasonable objections. How about waiting until he does to whine about it? Do you think about nothing but Poilevre? I realize that he's the main focus of the CBC every day, which seems to sometimes forget there's an actual government they ought to be covering, but get out and touch grass.

[I am Groot]

12 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

24 Sussex must be restored. It’s a national symbol. We are surely still capable of doing that? I sincerely hope this matter does not become a political football. 

I really never understood the figures being bandied about for the cost of either restoring it or building a new one. Everyone knows the majority of the costs of building are in the land, but we already own that. This is not a complex national building like the parliament buildings, replete with complex carvings and bas-reliefs everywhere. Nor does it have the same heritage significance since prime ministers didn't meet with a lot of people there, going next door to the governor general's place for that. I've seen figures of $100 million on up.

This place seems somewhat similar. Build this on the site.

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/29921791/218-coltrin-road-ottawa-3201-rockcliffe?view=imagelist

 

[Barquentine]

13 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

24 Sussex must be restored. It’s a national symbol.

"Future of 24 Sussex should be 'last thing on our minds" says Poilievre...

as he pisses off the back porch at Stornoway.

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You really are kind of crazed. You raise the question because you presume he will make unreasonable objections. How about waiting until he does to whine about it? Do you think about nothing but Poilevre? I realize that he's the main focus of the CBC every day, which seems to sometimes forget there's an actual government they ought to be covering, but get out and touch grass.

He has previously called it “a mansion for Justin Trudeau” when this same topic came ip in 2024 and just recently said it “should be the last thing on our minds” in response to Carney’s announcement which clearly sounds like he’s willing to sabotage this for cheap partisan politics. 

[Nefarious Banana]

22 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

24 Sussex must be restored. It’s a national symbol. We are surely still capable of doing that? I sincerely hope this matter does not become a political football. 

Let's hope it's not a trillion dollar re~vamp to a contractor~buddy of Carney's ?

[Gaétan]

The money to renovate that rat hole won’t be given to the poor, so it’s better to rent him a small condo at a low price.

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

15 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I really never understood the figures being bandied about for the cost of either restoring it or building a new one. Everyone knows the majority of the costs of building are in the land, but we already own that. This is not a complex national building like the parliament buildings, replete with complex carvings and bas-reliefs everywhere. Nor does it have the same heritage significance since prime ministers didn't meet with a lot of people there, going next door to the governor general's place for that. I've seen figures of $100 million on up.

This place seems somewhat similar. Build this on the site.

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/29921791/218-coltrin-road-ottawa-3201-rockcliffe?view=imagelist

 

Restoration of an historic building will always be much more expensive than a new build and in this case the builders will apparently face mould, rodents and asbestos for a start. On CBC’s Power and Politics the other day the figure of 100 million was disputed by the Liberal pol but we all know how these projects can get out of hand. It has to be done. 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

 It has to be done. 

Not for a hundred million. Even 10 million raises my eyebrows.

[CdnFox]

On 6/26/2026 at 2:05 PM, BeaverFever said:

I ask the question in the OP because I predict he won’t be able to resist playing shameless politics and accusing Carney of “building himself a mansion while Canadians struggle” or some other such nonsense   This kind of shameful politicking by both parties is why 24 Sussex got destroyed in the first place. This is why we can’t have nice things. 

You asked the question which is completely ridiculous on the face of it because you're a partisan hack with no ability to think of your own Whose entirely motivated by hatred

There is no way for him to sabotage anything. Nor would he want to

He will probably correctly point out that the liberals ignore this very problem for a decade.

He will likely also point out that carney came up with this out of the blue when he started facing major pushback for bailing out developers. And his solution here is to talk other people into paying for the one building in the entire country that is absolutely the responsibility of the government.

But nobody's going to suggest that the work shouldn't be done or try and sabotage it. But this is political opportunism for Carney to distract from his other failures especially with the developer bailout. And that's legitimate criticism

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Not for a hundred million. Even 10 million raises my eyebrows.

It's gotten so bad that you're simply is no doing it cheap. I believe previous estimates were in the 40 or 50 million dollar range and my understanding is it's going to be somewhere in that range now.

I'm not happy about raising money by donation, I have a horrible feeling that we're going to come up with the rogers center kitchen and the shell oil states room and the llike

But the fact is it's part of a national prestige to have a national residence for your leader. It is embarrassing not to and if you want to be taken seriously on the world stage it's a minimum requirement

Having the Prime Minister couch surfing at the Gigi's residence is like telling people our government lives in his mommy's basement.

[August1991]

12 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

He has previously called it “a mansion for Justin Trudeau” when this same topic came ip in 2024 and just recently said it “should be the last thing on our minds” in response to Carney’s announcement which clearly sounds like he’s willing to sabotage this for cheap partisan politics. 

The opposition must oppose the government. So of course, Poilievre will say something bad about this government.

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As to 24 Sussex, I agree with Carney. The current building must be razed. Let's have an international architectural competition to decide its future. 

The site on the river is wonderful. We all should pay for this new building.

[ExFlyer]

Maybe we should renovate Stornoway and really give the Stornoway Squatter something to whine about??? 7+ years no rent, no taxes, no maintenance fees, plenty of staff, cooks cleaners grounds keepers etc.  "

"Stornoway, the official residence of the Leader of the Official Opposition in Ottawa, has undergone several repairs and renovations in recent years, though it remains in fair condition and requires ongoing upkeep. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Recent projects include:

• 2024 Security Upgrades: The National Capital Commission spent $15,817 to install a new security fence within the perimeter of the property for the safety of the Poilievre family, along with upgrades to the driveway gates. 
• 2022 Preparatory Work: The National Capital Commission spent approximately $20,000 in repairs and cleaning to prepare the property for interim leader Candice Bergen. 
• 2020 Major Renovations: Before Erin O'Toole moved in, the National Capital Commission completed about $170,000 in repairs. This included kitchen renovations, new garage roof, plumbing and structural repairs, tearing up basement floors, and repainting the home. 

Future Work Needed
According to the Official Residences Condition Report published by the National Capital Commission, the home needs an estimated $1.25 million over the next 10 years to address deferred maintenance. Needed updates include modernizing the electrical wiring, upgrading the fire alarm system, replacing hardwood floors, and installing universal accessibility features.?

 

24 Sussex is a national heritage building and deserves, no must be, preserved.

Renovations and remodelling always costs more then rebuilding be it a normal house to a heritage building. Heritage buildings will be far more expensive to restore as the requirements a are far more strict and controlled than a normal house.

As for private donations...it is an innovative and new way... it sounds like a good idea to me. Why not??

[Barquentine]

23 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Do you think about nothing but Poilevre? I realize that he's the main focus of the CBC every day

How do you know that? Apparently you watch/listen to CBC all the time. I thought you right-whingers hated the MSM?

Actually Poilievre gets very little coverage because he's irrelevant.

[ExFlyer]

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Maybe we should renovate Stornoway and really give the Stornoway Squatter something to whine about???

Stornoway  is fine why would we renovate it?

I guess they hadn't got to this part in your social studies class at high school huh?

Edited Sunday at 06:53 PM by CdnFox

[WestCanMan]

On 6/26/2026 at 2:05 PM, BeaverFever said:

I ask the question in the OP because I predict he won’t be able to resist playing shameless politics and accusing Carney of “building himself a mansion while Canadians struggle” or some other such nonsense   

You worthless fkn loser 😂

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Stornoway  is fine why would we renovate it?

I guess they hadn't got to this part in your social studies class at high school huh?

Who said anything about renovating Stornoway except you just now??  FYI:

StronowayTransition Renovation

• Cost: $170,000
• Details: The NCC utilized a transition period to complete necessary life-cycle maintenance and repairs.
• Interior Work: Kitchen renovations (new dishwasher, countertops, backsplash, and ceramic flooring instead of rotted wood), plumbing and exhaust fan repairs in bathrooms, fresh paint throughout, tearing up rotted basement laundry flooring, and inspecting and upgrading heating pipes.
• Exterior Work: Repaired wood rot in the veranda, fixed gutters, pressure washed the building, and installed a new roof on the garage. 

2021–2022: Additional Maintenance & Utility Spikes

• Cost: ~ $94,000+ in annual operations and maintenance.
• Details: Documents revealed additional spending on maintenance and cleaning, including significant water bills resulting from two failures in the property's irrigation system. These were subsequently repaired. 

2021–2026: Ongoing Assessments

• Projected Needs: In the NCC's Official Residences of Canada: Asset Portfolio Condition Report, Stornoway was assessed to be in "fair" condition, requiring an estimated $1.25 million in deferred maintenance over the next decade. 
• Upcoming Lifecycle Needs: Long-term required upgrades identified by the NCC include:
  • Upgrading electrical wiring and panels to modern codes.
  • Installing new fire alarm systems.
  • Hardwood floor replacements.
  • Universal accessibility studies and structural upgrades. 

All taxes, maintenance, utilities, taxes and the personal attendants and cooks and cleaners and staff and chauffeur and most of all, maintenance is paid by taxpayers for PP in the past 7+ years.

Trinidad and Tobago and Canada are theonly 2 countries in the world that subsidize and pamper the leaders of the opposition.

The thing you should be asking yourself is why do we do this for a 4 time LOSER????

 

 

[Legato]

11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Who said anything about renovating Stornoway except you just now??  FYI:

StronowayTransition Renovation

• Cost: $170,000
• Details: The NCC utilized a transition period to complete necessary life-cycle maintenance and repairs.
• Interior Work: Kitchen renovations (new dishwasher, countertops, backsplash, and ceramic flooring instead of rotted wood), plumbing and exhaust fan repairs in bathrooms, fresh paint throughout, tearing up rotted basement laundry flooring, and inspecting and upgrading heating pipes.
• Exterior Work: Repaired wood rot in the veranda, fixed gutters, pressure washed the building, and installed a new roof on the garage. 

2021–2022: Additional Maintenance & Utility Spikes

• Cost: ~ $94,000+ in annual operations and maintenance.
• Details: Documents revealed additional spending on maintenance and cleaning, including significant water bills resulting from two failures in the property's irrigation system. These were subsequently repaired. 

2021–2026: Ongoing Assessments

• Projected Needs: In the NCC's Official Residences of Canada: Asset Portfolio Condition Report, Stornoway was assessed to be in "fair" condition, requiring an estimated $1.25 million in deferred maintenance over the next decade. 
• Upcoming Lifecycle Needs: Long-term required upgrades identified by the NCC include:
  • Upgrading electrical wiring and panels to modern codes.
  • Installing new fire alarm systems.
  • Hardwood floor replacements.
  • Universal accessibility studies and structural upgrades. 

All taxes, maintenance, utilities, taxes and the personal attendants and cooks and cleaners and staff and chauffeur and most of all, maintenance is paid by taxpayers for PP in the past 7+ years.

Trinidad and Tobago and Canada are theonly 2 countries in the world that subsidize and pamper the leaders of the opposition.

The thing you should be asking yourself is why do we do this for a 4 time LOSER????

 

 

There's a good architect in Chicago.

 

[CdnFox]

You:

 

Quote

 

  3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Who said anything about renovating Stornoway except you just now??

 

 

 

Also you " a few minutes earlier"  :

 

10 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Maybe we should renovate Stornoway

LOLOL 

It would take a team of top notch comedy writers to make you look more stupid than you make yourself look   

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 6/28/2026 at 3:40 AM, August1991 said:

The opposition must oppose the government. So of course, Poilievre will say something bad about this government.

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As to 24 Sussex, I agree with Carney. The current building must be razed. Let's have an international architectural competition to decide its future. 

The site on the river is wonderful. We all should pay for this new building.

No, the Opposition should not reflexively oppose everything the government proposes, or even oppose for political advantage. The Opposition is there to correct errors by government.

Edited Monday at 06:49 PM by SpankyMcFarland

[ExFlyer]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You:

 

 

 

Also you " a few minutes earlier"  :

 

LOLOL 

It would take a team of top notch comedy writers to make you look more stupid than you make yourself look   

Typical reading comprehension issue from confux LOSER. LOL

You : Stornoway  is fine why would we renovate it? ?

Me: Who said anything about renovating Stornoway except you just now??

Me: Maybe we should renovate Stornoway and really give the Stornoway Squatter something to whine about??? 7+ years no rent, no taxes, no maintenance fees, plenty of staff, cooks cleaners grounds keepers etc." and then added all the repairs and renovations done to Stornoway in recent years.

Seems the one that needs, as you say " a team of top notch comedy writers to make you look more stupid than you make yourself look"

Edited Monday at 03:39 PM by ExFlyer