Goddess Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: What BS!!! LOL Ooooooh! Another insightful comment. You've convinced me, and lots of others here I'm sure, with your logic and reason. 🙄 3 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ExFlyer Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 47 minutes ago, Venandi said: Technically, people do vote for the individual but in practice, that's definitely not how the average voter sees it. Ask virtually anyone As an aside, it might be time to mass downvote our resident downvote troll and give him more people to chase around the forum... the effort might keep the critter quiet for a while. OK, I'll go first. Awww poor little vendoodoo is upset...Awww, downvotes getting to you LOSER??? Go ahaea...they certainly don't bother me but I am sure glad they pi$$ you off so, you will always get em LOL LOL LOL. LOSER !!!! 3 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Goddess said: Ooooooh! Another insightful comment. You've convinced me, and lots of others here I'm sure, with your logic and reason. 🙄 No need to be insightful with you...it does not stick in your head..... No need to try any logic here either...you are all PP groupies and along with him..LOSERS and losing more every day Bottom line LOSER.... you are more of a LOSER today than you were 2 days ago Edited April 14 by ExFlyer 3 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
I am Groot Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 On 4/10/2026 at 12:35 PM, CDN1 said: Liberals dgaf about democracy. They've imported 10% of the electorate since taking power. They appeal to sectarian interests that promote open ethnic bloc voting because they view it as a road to permanent control & power. I expect one of his first tasks now will be to start giving permanent resident status to all those Indians who overstayed their visas so they can get citizenship in time to vote Liberal next election. The Spanish Socialists did this and other Left wing parties in Europe are, like Carny, bending over backwards to pander to Muslims so they will continue to vote Left. 42% of immigrants coming in under the economic category are now not particularly skilled at all as they're given a special intake with low points if they speak French so the government can seed them throughout small Francophone areas outside Quebec. Most of them will be from Muslim countries. Not a coincidence. This helps the Liberals with both Muslim and French voters. All these groups in Canada will continue to vote as a bloc for whoever panders to them the most. The rest of us will split our votes among all parties, giving the ethnic groups a disproporionate amount of power. 3 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
herbie Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 More like the first move will be to send all the disgruntled whiners to reeducation camps until they figure out they lost, their leader is a loser and their backwards wishes are doomed. As Canada needs to grow and the majority is onboard with that, if you loathe immigrants so much then do your part by getting off you keyboard and onto your wife. 1 1 Quote
Goddess Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 19 minutes ago, herbie said: the first move will be to send all the disgruntled whiners to reeducation camps until they figure out they lost, their leader is a loser and their backwards wishes are doomed. This is what they do in China. Maybe you'll get your wish and it's part of the New World Order with China that Carney is building? 2 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
herbie Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, Goddess said: New World Order without USA Fixed that for you 1 Quote
Goddess Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 1 minute ago, herbie said: Fixed that for you Haha, cute. Doesn't change that the New World Order is with China. Elbows Up, Comrade! 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ExFlyer Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: This is what they do in China. Maybe you'll get your wish and it's part of the New World Order with China that Carney is building? So sad...a LOSER making excuses and trying top deflect why they lost AGAIN!!!! Sucks for you to be a LOSER for 11+ years HA HA HA 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 22 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: What BS!!! LOL Prove that loser??? Prove that you're a loser? Oh Buddy do you do that yourself you don't need any help from me 23 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You have no proof of your accusations. Yes Robo Smith Anyways there is plenty of evidence. As I said members from more than one party have advised that they've been contacted and told to expect favorable treatment should they cross. And honestly it's kind of the way it is. Just crossing the floor increases their salary, a member of the government makes more than a MP who's part of the opposition. And then they will get appointed to committees which makes them a bunch of money, You'll remember that Ma got in trouble for grilling someone about china at committee, he gets paid extra for that and i'ts not small. Plus extra expense and bonus accounts, and they get to go on trips and meet foreign gov't people which makes them more valuable when they leave parliament - again Ma did that already. So - there you go. Exactly what i'm saying is ALREADY happening. There's your proof 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Prove that you're a loser? .... Yes Robo Smith Anyways there is plenty of evidence. As I said members from more than one party have advised that they've been contacted and told to expect favorable treatment should they cross. And honestly it's kind of the way it is. Just crossing the floor increases their salary, a member of the government makes more than a MP who's part of the opposition. And then they will get appointed to committees which makes them a bunch of money,.... So - there you go. Exactly what i'm saying is ALREADY happening. There's your proof Prove that any of the conservatives that crossed the floor were bribed. Go ahead. What is even part of your evidence?? Oh? there is none? All members make the same basic pay. They get more if they are on a committee or hold cabinet positions. Be they opposition or in the ruling party. "Members who hold certain offices and positions are entitled to additional salaries in accordance with the Parliament of Canada Act. These salaries are paid as of the date of the Member’s appointment or election, depending on the requirements of the position. For more information about House Officers, the Speaker and other presiding officers". https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/MAS/mas-e.pdf#page=20&zoom=100,69,68 "The Salary and Benefits. MP’s are well compensated and that compensation package is extensive, with four essential parts to it, according to the House of Commons Procedure and Practice. The most recent Manual to Members Allowances and Services was published April 1, 2025." https://www.knowledgebureau.com/site/KBR/canadas-new-mps-salary-benefits-accountabilities What members have advised?? Who are they?? Oh, just another lie from confix LOL So, as usual...no proof from a LIAR LOSER LOL. Oh and a bigger LOSER today than yesterday and for 3 + more years LOL Trying to deflect is your mantra but actually proving your BS is your down fall LOL So, Congratulations to Pierre Poilievre for securing a majority Liberal government! LOL LOL LOL Edited April 14 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
I am Groot Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 I think this illustrates Carny's popularity as well as anything I've yet seen or read. These are not normal political circumstances. The Trump administration's tariff threats and hostile rhetoric toward Canadian sovereignty have fundamentally altered what Canadians are evaluating when pollsters ask whether they approve of their government. The question they hear is not "is your life getting better?" It is "do you support Canada standing up for itself?" This is the rally-around-the-flag effect, and it is one of the most documented phenomena in political science. External threat perception triggers tribal solidarity. George W. Bush reached 90% approval after September 11th while the economy was in recession. The mechanism is not mysterious: when citizens feel their nation is under attack, they rally to whoever holds the seat of power, regardless of domestic performance. https://canadiannationalfederation.ca/articles/carney-s-astonishing-approval-rating 2 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
eyeball Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Goddess said: Haha, cute. Doesn't change that the New World Order is with China. Maybe it'll be easier dealing with a super-rogue on the other side of the planet instead of the berserker right next door. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Goddess Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Maybe it'll be easier dealing with a super-rogue on the other side of the planet Try to keep up. China is already here, dum-dum. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 Just now, Goddess said: Try to keep up. China is already here, dum-dum. Get a grip. China is about 5000 miles from me and even farther from you. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Goddess Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Get a grip. China is about 5000 miles from me and even farther from you. CSIS says you're lying. Enjoy your New World Order with China. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Prove that any of the conservatives that crossed the floor were bribed. Go ahead. Simple enough this article outlines the methods the libs are using in extreme detail, and notes the rewards already got And they miss that mike ma was given committees and taken on the china trip, all of which pays big bucks and is worth a lto of money when he gets out. What, there were no existing libs who could have done that? Hmmm Poilievre's pain not over as Carney Liberals pursue more Tory MPs | Toronto Sun "Matt Jeneroux was made a special advisor on economic and security partnerships, Marilyn Gladu apparently believes she’ll be in cabinet – good luck with that, and at least one Conservative MP was approached about taking a judicial appointment to consider vacating his seat and prompting a byelection." So yeah. They're bribing people. And they're smart enough not to get caught, but everyone knows the truth. All you have to do is say "there MIGHT be a cabinet post for you (wink wink!) instead of 'there is' and you're not breaking the law 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: What is even part of your evidence?? That those who've crossed already got special appointments and more money? LOL Sorry kid, I know carney is your Idol but he's corrupt as hell 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 (edited) Trump and Trumpism posed a strategic problem for conservatives. Job one for them should have been to distinguish their brand from MAGA as ferociously as necessary, irrespective of any short-term loss of voters to the PPC or elsewhere. The model to be adopted was a new one, a struggle within a party, the party being Canada, where everybody has to pretend to be working together for a while. Thus the story lines critical of Carney should have been handled by others while fire from the leader should have been trained on the foreign threat and fiercer than anything Carney managed. That was the way to compete. PP failed to do that. We know how nasty he can be but on the Trump challenge he has been limp and lackadaisical. His heart isn’t in it and voters can see that. Edited April 14 by SpankyMcFarland 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
blackbird Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Get a grip. China is about 5000 miles from me and even farther from you. How much of what we buy is from China? Most dry goods. 1 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 (edited) 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: Simple enough this article outlines the methods the libs are using in extreme detail, and notes the rewards already got And they miss that mike ma was given committees and taken on the china trip, all of which pays big bucks and is worth a lto of money when he gets out. What, there were no existing libs who could have done that? Hmmm Poilievre's pain not over as Carney Liberals pursue more Tory MPs | Toronto Sun "Matt Jeneroux was made a special advisor on economic and security partnerships, Marilyn Gladu apparently believes she’ll be in cabinet – good luck with that, and at least one Conservative MP was approached about taking a judicial appointment to consider vacating his seat and prompting a byelection." So yeah. They're bribing people. And they're smart enough not to get caught, but everyone knows the truth. All you have to do is say "there MIGHT be a cabinet post for you (wink wink!) instead of 'there is' and you're not breaking the law That those who've crossed already got special appointments and more money? LOL Sorry kid, I know carney is your Idol but he's corrupt as hell From your link about Polievere, "There is no way that he can continue on as leader if more party members jump ship". You are actually taking Brian Lilly, a uber conservative pundits opinion piece as proof??? I know you are fkn ldiot but now you have proven that you are even more of an ldiot if you think some fools opinion is proof LOL I have never said "there MIGHT be a cabinet post" ..that is you talking to yourself again. Your comment about Matt Jeneroux is incorrect as well. He is a member of the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development,which has 6 Liberal members, 4 Conservative members, 1 Bloc Québécois member, and 1 New Democratic Party member all getting extra pay for being part of that committee. So, where is actual proof...not opinion? LOL Opinions are like a$$holes all you conservatives have one LOL So.. as you claim "those who've crossed already got special appointments and more money?"...where is the proof??? confux...the LIAR and LOSER...bigger LOSER today than yesterday LOL Edited April 15 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Army Guy Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 On 4/12/2026 at 7:01 AM, Venandi said: I think so too. Just me maybe, but I don't get too torqued about individuals crossing the floor for their own reasons.... I don't like it, I think they broke faith with their constituents and the people who worked hard getting them elected but that's on them and they'll be judged accordingly. But... changing an election outcome by turning a minority into a majority (or vice versa for that matter) and then executing a platform which only garnered minority support in the last election seems patently undemocratic to me. I'm surprised (dismayed actually) to think that any Canadian (of any political stripe) wouldn't find that to be as offensive as I do. Backroom deals may be part of the political topography but they should never be allowed to subvert an election result. I'd say the same thing if it was any other party doing it, even if I believed that my party of choice would be wiped out in snap election called to seek a new mandate because of it. The fact that it breaks down along partisan lines is worrying as well and doesn't bode well for the future IMO and the potential Quebec / Alberta effects come instantly to mind. If election results can be subverted by backroom deals and personal gain (and that is seen to be the case), people may actually come to fear election results because of it. And, when people have (or feel they have) legitimate fears about the result, that's when political violence can really become a concern. Perversely, if/when that happens, it only serves to strengthen the division that caused it in the first place and lead to more of the same. Somehow we seem to think we're smart enough to avoid all that and it's reflected in many of the comments here. Especially the ones that start with YUK YUK YUK, HA HA HA, LOL LOL LOL. It's the sort of chant I would expect to hear from a blind ogre as it stumbles toward a steep cliff. I see your posts are popular with red arrow man, and an ex airman to boot...or wanna be airman...i feel the betrayal... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 6 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Awww poor little vendoodoo is upset...Awww, downvotes getting to you LOSER??? Go ahaea...they certainly don't bother me but I am sure glad they pi$$ you off so, you will always get em LOL LOL LOL. LOSER !!!! Another poster with nothing really to contribute to any conversation, you don't even have the balls to reply with words , just those little red arrows....which once again your to lazy to even write a few lines describing what you don't like about the posts...and you claim to be a retired CWO.....man even I'm starting to doubt that, no way a CWO carries on like you do.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I see your posts are popular with red arrow man, and an ex airman to boot...or wanna be airman...i feel the betrayal... Awww army guy...the old bitter and twisted soldier is upset and don arrows. Yup, proud ex Airman and fully understanding of how things work. We, in the Air Force had to make decisions to make the aircraft safe so people did not die...we had to think. Figure things out and maybe the bitterness will mellow LOL 3 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Another poster with nothing really to contribute to any conversation, you don't even have the balls to reply with words , just those little red arrows....which once again your to lazy to even write a few lines describing what you don't like about the posts...and you claim to be a retired CWO.....man even I'm starting to doubt that, no way a CWO carries on like you do.... Awww, the bitter little army guy is defending the indefensible over down arrows LOL "And you claim to be a retired MWO.....man even I'm starting to doubt that, no way a MWO carries on like you do...." Edited April 14 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Goddess said: CSIS says you're lying. You believe what CSIS says anymore than the CBC? You're kidding. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Army Guy Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Awww army guy...the old bitter and twisted soldier is upset and don arrows. Yup, proud ex Airman and fully understanding of how things work. We, in the Air Force had to make decisions to make the aircraft safe so people did not die...we had to think. Figure things out and maybe the bitterness will mellow LOL Not upset, and certainly not by some douche that does nothing to contribute to any issue really, your here to stir up sh!t thats all,.....disappointed that your thought process of joining a forum only not have anything of real value to say is suspect........on a forum and the most you can contribute is arguing with with anyone on the right....and down arrow...That literally sums up your entire postings... Taking credit for others work are you....making things safe....Sorry you were never a main character in the air force your a support trade to the Air force at best.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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