eyeball Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ironstone said: You didn't give this much thought, did you? Compared to Trump? He still seems to think the IRS sends Carney an invoice for tariffs. I notice you people didn't respond to the point that putting a tariffs on the whole planet kind of makes the point of worrying about them moot. Notwithstanding the concern that Trump could make a deal with Mars I suppose. Edited March 10 by eyeball 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
LinkSoul60 Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: no the sources were there i gave them in response to flyer....and if i'm wrong then prove it, instead of chirping ... https://www.desjardins.com/nb/en/savings-investment/economic-studies/canada-defence-gdp-6-march-2026.html Every government has a plan very few actually put it into action....when it comes to the military both government have poor records....but the liberals have been full of promises and have delivered on very few....if we go by history the military will not spend all the carney money, it was to much to late in the year....I bet it won't go over 1.75 % of GDP...for 2025....seeing how it was 1.37 percent of GDP in 2024.... And to your answer your question, if they turn their plans into action , i would consider it....but i 've waited 40 plus years for some action by any government to take action and it has not happened yet...Besides i don't rally think they have a choice at this point in time...the world is getting crazier every day.... You won't have to wait long the fiscal year ends on march 31 st.... A good insight into accounting and reporting. There were a few 'unclears' which means we'll find out how much was actually spent in the year end audit. I get it though.... we have to spend the money on actual 'things'. 2 Quote
ironstone Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 3 hours ago, eyeball said: Compared to Trump? He still seems to think the IRS sends Carney an invoice for tariffs. I notice you people didn't respond to the point that putting a tariffs on the whole planet kind of makes the point of worrying about them moot. Notwithstanding the concern that Trump could make a deal with Mars I suppose. US, China, India, Mexico, Turkey, Brazil, the EU. Canada has tariffs on all of them and it's Canadians that pay those tariffs. Canada also placed tariffs on US steel and ...aluminum. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
eyeball Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 33 minutes ago, ironstone said: US, China, India, Mexico, Turkey, Brazil, the EU. Canada has tariffs on all of them and it's Canadians that pay those tariffs. Yup, stupid is as stupid does. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted March 10 Author Report Posted March 10 20 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Fiscal year 2025, which just ended last week. Numbers are not in yet. Thought of you when i saw this: Canada counts tree planting and grants toward NATO spending target but still falls short 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 36 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Thought of you when i saw this: Canada counts tree planting and grants toward NATO spending target but still falls short I hope liberals read this and let it sink in, everyone is now chasing those defense dollars , even departments that have no connection to defense...on top of just more examples of creative liberal attempts to con there voters into thinking everything is alright....in the end DND will get some stuff but not enough to do the job....while Liberals take credit for enriching everyone in the process... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted March 10 Author Report Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: I hope liberals read this and let it sink in, everyone is now chasing those defense dollars , even departments that have no connection to defense...on top of just more examples of creative liberal attempts to con there voters into thinking everything is alright....in the end DND will get some stuff but not enough to do the job....while Liberals take credit for enriching everyone in the process... It's kind of what they do. Now some of the things, like rolling the coast guard into the military budget, I can kind of see that. I mean you could argue that it is a military style group and that its activities are similar enough that it belongs attached to the military But some of this stuff is outrageous. 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 7 hours ago, CdnFox said: Now some of the things, like rolling the coast guard into the military budget, I can kind of see that. I mean you could argue that it is a military style group and that its activities are similar enough that it belongs attached to the military Good grief, does this mean DFO is now responsible for Canada's defense? Now we're really fùcked. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 Weapons buying under PM Carney an 'eyewatering increase' for Canada: From a satellite-maker to a company that helps underwater drones tell the difference between a rock and a naval mine, Canada’s humble military supply sector is lighting up the stock market as investors eye billions in new government spending. A new report by Desjardins notes an “eyewatering increase” in weapons purchases since Prime Minister Mark Carney took office last year. As tension mounted with the United States, Ottawa in 2025 committed to its biggest military spending hike since the Second World War. Overall, $81.8 billion in new spending over five years was earmarked to strengthen the Canadian Armed Forces. https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/weapons-buying-under-pm-carney-an-eyewatering-increase-for-canada-desjardins-150812340.html Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted March 11 Author Report Posted March 11 9 hours ago, eyeball said: Good grief, does this mean DFO is now responsible for Canada's defense? Now we're really fùcked. We were pretty effed When the military was in charge of Canada's defense. I don't see how were any worse off now 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted March 11 Author Report Posted March 11 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Weapons buying under PM Carney an 'eyewatering increase' for Canada: From a satellite-maker to a company that helps underwater drones tell the difference between a rock and a naval mine, Canada’s humble military supply sector is lighting up the stock market as investors eye billions in new government spending. A new report by Desjardins notes an “eyewatering increase” in weapons purchases since Prime Minister Mark Carney took office last year. As tension mounted with the United States, Ottawa in 2025 committed to its biggest military spending hike since the Second World War. Overall, $81.8 billion in new spending over five years was earmarked to strengthen the Canadian Armed Forces. https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/weapons-buying-under-pm-carney-an-eyewatering-increase-for-canada-desjardins-150812340.html But he hasn't actually spent the money. These are all things he says he's going to do and said he would do before the end of the year but hasn't done He promised that he would hit our 2% by the end of the year in real military spending instead he hasn't done that and he's trying to include planting trees as part of military expenditures 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
paxamericana Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 50 minutes ago, CdnFox said: include planting trees as part of military expenditures A Canadian skill set no doubt. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 11 Author Report Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, paxamericana said: A Canadian skill set no doubt. Absolutely, especially in British Columbia where tree planting in the summer was a routine and highly prized employment gig for many university students. Just not 100% sure it's a military skills set 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 More major defence spending announced today Sorry pal your thread doesn’t hold up to facts Canada spending nearly $35-billion to fortify North, assert sovereignty Prime Minister Mark Carney speaks, as members of the Canadian Armed Forces stand behind him, during his visit to 440 Transport Squadron, in Yellowknife, NWT, on Thursday.Carlos Osorio/Reuters The federal government will spend nearly $35-billion to prepare the North for more extensive military operations aimed at defending against incoming threats to North America and asserting territorial sovereignty in the Arctic, Prime Minister Mark Carneyannounced in Yellowknife Thursday. The bulk of the money, $32-billion, will be used to upgrade military Forward Operating Locations in Yellowknife, Inuvik and Iqaluit as well as the Deployed Operating Base at 5 Wing Goose Bay. These provide hangars, fuel and accommodations to support fighter squadrons deployed in service of the Canada-U.S. North American Aerospace Defence Command (NORAD). Funds will pay for upgraded airfields, new or repurposed hangars, ammunition and fuel storage as well as upgraded accommodations, warehouses and information technology equipment. Mr. Carney also announced four Northern infrastructure projects would be referred to Ottawa’s Major Projects Office, which streamlines regulatory approvals and financing for “nation-building” projects of national interest. These include the 800-kilometre Mackenzie Valley Highway, the Grays Bay Road and Port, the Arctic Economic and Security Corridor, and Taltson Hydro Expansion Project. ….. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-spending-nearly-35-billion-to-fortify-north-assert-sovereignty/ On 3/11/2026 at 11:40 AM, CdnFox said: he's trying to include planting trees as part of military expenditures Pretty sure that’s more of that fake news you love to recite 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 And from Monday Canada commits nearly $1B to drone and airborne defence research Government says research aims to benefit both military and civilian operations Canada's National Research Council (NRC) is pouring over $900 million into a long-term plan to establish a drone research facility and purchase a Canadian-built Bombardier Global 6500 to support defence research. The funding is coming from the recently established Defence Industrial Strategy. "Canada's security depends on our ability to innovate at home," said Industry Minister Mélanie Joly at the announcement on Monday in Ottawa. "We are strengthening our sovereign capabilities and supporting Canadian companies in the development of next-generation aerospace, drone, quantum and biomedical technologies." Accompanying Joly at the announcement was Defence Minister David McGuinty and Stephen Fuhr, the secretary of state for defence procurement. "We remain committed to advancing sovereign defence technologies that enhance security, create prosperity and reinforce Canada's strategic economic position as we chart our course in an increasingly complex world," said Fuhr, who noted the NRC has been doing world-class research for more than a century. The intention of the new centre is to conduct cutting-edge research into drones with both military and civilian applications. McGuinty said the investment and research will help strengthen Canada's industrial foundations and get new capabilities into the hands of the military faster. The plane will be assembled at Bombardier's Pearson facility in Mississauga, Ont., and the interiors will be completed in Dorval, Que., with more than 65 Canadian suppliers contributing parts. At the end of last year, the federal government agreed to purchase six Global 6500 jetsfrom the Montreal-based company to replace the air force's aging fleet of Challenger jets. That contract was worth over $753 million and included production, training for crews, maintenance and any military modifications needed. Built in Canada, the replacement fleet is expected to be delivered by summer 2027. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/drones-defence-research-bombardier-9.7121356 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) On 3/10/2026 at 3:38 PM, CdnFox said: Thought of you when i saw this: Canada counts tree planting and grants toward NATO spending target but still falls short Notice how you can’t actually read the story because it’s behind a paywall on a known right wing propagandist website and NOWHERE ELSE? There’s just the clickbait headline that you conservative suckers are sharing around social media although I guarantee 99% of can’t read the actual article, not that you like to read things anyway. The facts behind the clickbait headline is that IN EVERY COUNTRY the maintenance and upkeep of military bases is a valid and legitimate defence expenditure, whether that’s fixing the plumbing, cleaning the toilets or landscaping. You people and your fake news are exhausting Edited March 13 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) On 3/9/2026 at 7:19 PM, CdnFox said: So you're wrong and you're mad at me for it. Gotcha. No, you’re lying about what the PBO said. AGAIN. On 3/9/2026 at 7:19 PM, CdnFox said: Yes. Zero I'm sorry basic facts and truth upsets you so much. But only a die hard liberal fanatic would claim facts and truth are "anti carney propaganda" Uh nope. You literally do nothing all day except post ine anti-Carney thread or post after another, including FAKE NEWS like when you falsely claimed Carney was an Epstein associate and publicly admitted it Edit: also I stand corrected, the government’s fiscal year ends March31 so it’s not over yet. And on that note, another big announcement coming up Monday, reportedly the winners of the Launch the North space launch program, “enabling the launch of Canadian payloads from Canadian soil with an initial operational capability for light lift by as late as 2028.” Minister McGuinty to make announcement on Canada’s sovereign space program National Defence March 12, 2026 – Ottawa, Ontario – National Defence / Canadian Armed Forces The Honourable David J. McGuinty, Minister of National Defence, will make an announcement related to Defence and Canada’s sovereign space program. When: Mar 16, 2026, 11:00 a.m. (media must arrive NLT 10:15 a.m. for escort from front gate). Where: The Canadian Space Agency’s David Florida Laboratory operated by MDA Space, Shirley’s Bay Campus, 3701 Carling Ave, Ottawa, ON What: An announcement related to new investments in space-related infrastructure and capabilities. The Minister will be available for questions after the announcement. https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/news/2026/03/minister-mcguinty-to-make-announcement-on-canadas-sovereign-space-program.html Edited March 13 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
User Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: The facts behind the clickbait headline is that IN EVERY COUNTRY the maintenance and upkeep of military bases is a valid and legitimate defence expenditure, whether that’s fixing the plumbing, cleaning the toilets or landscaping. You people and your fake news are exhausting So... it is not fake news, you are just justifying the practice and yet still ignore the point that even counting all that shit, your country still isn't keeping up. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: We are strengthening our sovereign capabilities and supporting Canadian companies in the development of next-generation aerospace, drone, quantum and biomedical technologies. Quantum technologies? Hmmmm. I can see how rolling the Coast Guard into the Navy is like...a quantum financial entanglement...it doubles the bang for our buck or cancels out the debt. Someone should get an economics Nobel for this. Maybe there's a way to apply quantum weirdness to the pubic debt, where it becomes an illusion that's dependent on how you look at it or something. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
BeaverFever Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, User said: So... it is not fake news, you are just justifying the practice and yet still ignore the point that even counting all that shit, your country still isn't keeping up. It is finally keeping up. And it is fake news because it is a misrepresentation of the truth by selective reporting The propagandists want you believe that Carney specifically ordered a tree planting program unrelated to defence be counted as defence spending and something unusual was going on to cook the books. Edited March 13 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 On 3/9/2026 at 11:34 PM, ironstone said: US, China, India, Mexico, Turkey, Brazil, the EU. Canada has tariffs on all of them and it's Canadians that pay those tariffs. Canada also placed tariffs on US steel and ...aluminum. You don’t know what you’re talking about. We have a free trade agreement with US and EU. Any tariffs that existed prior to Trump’s trade war were mutually agreed upon tariffs that were specified in those trade agreements including the one Trump negotiated with us in his first term and called “the greatest deal ever” And we don’t have blanket tariffs on any country much less the entire world because everyone with an IQ higher than 10 understands that is completely stupid. It’s so stupid you might get a FIFA Prize for it. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 7 hours ago, BeaverFever said: More major defence spending announced today Sorry pal your thread doesn’t hold up to facts Canada spending nearly $35-billion to fortify North, assert sovereignty Prime Minister Mark Carney speaks, as members of the Canadian Armed Forces stand behind him, during his visit to 440 Transport Squadron, in Yellowknife, NWT, on Thursday.Carlos Osorio/Reuters The federal government will spend nearly $35-billion to prepare the North for more extensive military operations aimed at defending against incoming threats to North America and asserting territorial sovereignty in the Arctic, Prime Minister Mark Carneyannounced in Yellowknife Thursday. The bulk of the money, $32-billion, will be used to upgrade military Forward Operating Locations in Yellowknife, Inuvik and Iqaluit as well as the Deployed Operating Base at 5 Wing Goose Bay. These provide hangars, fuel and accommodations to support fighter squadrons deployed in service of the Canada-U.S. North American Aerospace Defence Command (NORAD). Funds will pay for upgraded airfields, new or repurposed hangars, ammunition and fuel storage as well as upgraded accommodations, warehouses and information technology equipment. Mr. Carney also announced four Northern infrastructure projects would be referred to Ottawa’s Major Projects Office, which streamlines regulatory approvals and financing for “nation-building” projects of national interest. These include the 800-kilometre Mackenzie Valley Highway, the Grays Bay Road and Port, the Arctic Economic and Security Corridor, and Taltson Hydro Expansion Project. ….. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-spending-nearly-35-billion-to-fortify-north-assert-sovereignty/ Pretty sure that’s more of that fake news you love to recite Some more promises to spend money someday when he hasn't hit his current spending promises 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ironstone Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You don’t know what you’re talking about. We have a free trade agreement with US and EU. Any tariffs that existed prior to Trump’s trade war were mutually agreed upon tariffs that were specified in those trade agreements including the one Trump negotiated with us in his first term and called “the greatest deal ever” And we don’t have blanket tariffs on any country much less the entire world because everyone with an IQ higher than 10 understands that is completely stupid. It’s so stupid you might get a FIFA Prize for it. Funny how you guys on the left always react with anger when you read something you don't like.🙂 2 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
User Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 10 hours ago, BeaverFever said: It is finally keeping up. And it is fake news because it is a misrepresentation of the truth by selective reporting The propagandists want you believe that Carney specifically ordered a tree planting program unrelated to defence be counted as defence spending and something unusual was going on to cook the books. Where do you get your country is finally keeping up from? The Article outlined how you were still falling short. If you actually read the article it wasn't saying that there was an order to plant trees to be counted, but that a lot of different things were being counted so it could appear you were spending more... and it was not just trees that were outlined. Can you dispute any of the facts presented? Because it certainly does show that a lot of accounting changes were made that make it seem like more money was spent, when in reality it was not. Quote
ironstone Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 18 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Notice how you can’t actually read the story because it’s behind a paywall on a known right wing propagandist website and NOWHERE ELSE? Obviously, not all money in the defense budget goes towards weapons and other hardware. But the question is, what percentage does go to new hardware or any kind of combat upgrades? Also in that article it mentioned $1.5 million for indigenous reconciliation initiatives. How much money is wasted on things like tampon dispensers in men's washrooms for instance? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
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