Productivity is an urgent problem for Canada. Carney's response? A 15-year study that will cost millions.

[suds]

On 2/21/2026 at 10:35 PM, ironstone said:

From the link: Our economic institutions have catalogued, repeatedly, the same structural failures: a complex tax system that punishes investment, entrepreneurship and growth; a regulatory apparatus so stifling and unpredictable that capital flows elsewhere; protected oligopolies in key sectors (telecom, airlines, banking and agriculture) that face little competitive pressure to innovate; strained trade and transport infrastructure that can’t move our goods to global markets or people efficiently within our borders; an immigration system that drifted toward low-wage temporary workers who substitute for capital, displacing the high-skilled talent that complements it; and a public sector growing in size but declining in effectiveness and productivity.

As Charles Lammam goes on to say... "It’s not that we lack answers or that we’ve exhausted all the policy options and come up short. It’s that we lack the political will to act on the answers we already have." So the question is... why do we lack the political will to do what must be done?  My best guess is that like military spending, it won't amount to a lot of votes at election time. It may even cost you an election. Until we get a government that is prepared to do what must be done... one would be foolish to expect anything to improve or get any better.

 

[Moonbox]

24 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Now that we know we ain' all gonna die from global warming, shouldn't we relax the regulations and ignore obstacles to prosperity?

We already have?  Thanks for coming out bud.  

[Nationalist]

14 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

We already have?  Thanks for coming out bud.  

Really? We will see once the natives get all fussy. He'll cave.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Hilarious.  Too it takes 20 seconds of Googling to prove that (once again) you're completely and utterly full of shit:

 

 

 

 

 

LOL Hilarious   as usual you have to lie to try to make your point  

I never said anything about "labour" productivity.  At all.  Can you show where i did?

i said produktiv, which includes lavour but also a number of other factors.  I showed that our gdp per capita is declining against the us tremendously and that's the best indicator of over all productivity 

 

LOL  once again you show up and declare victory by proving SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY that nobody mentioned LOLOL

Well it's sad to see your English skills haven't improved, how are those math lessons going?

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

i said produktiv, which includes lavour but also a number of other factors.  I showed that our gdp per capita is declining against the us tremendously and that's the best indicator of over all productivity 

I don't need to, because you're only embarrassing yourself further with statements like this.  GDP per capita is generally considered a poor measurement of productivity because it includes too many things that have absolutely nothing to do with efficiency (which is what productivity is all about). 

Alberta's GDP per capita is 10% lower now than it was in 2014.  That's not because Alberta got lazier or less efficient.  It's because oil prices crashed and still haven't really recovered.  This fundamentally altered the landscape of their economy and despite their oil and gas industry being far more efficient (productive) than in 2014, they just don't earn as much per barrel as they used to.  

As usual, you're proving you know less than nothing about the topics on which you bullshit.  

Edited February 23 by Moonbox

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

I don't need to, because you're only embarrassing yourself further with statements like this.  GDP per capita is generally considered a poor measurement of productivity because it includes too many things that have absolutely nothing to do with efficiency (which is what productivity is all about). 

It's considered a good measure by anyone with knowledge. If the economy overall adds thousands of 'mcjobs' or temporary foreign worker jobs it CAN make it look like the gdp per hour worked is going down, but in reality that's not a competativeness issue. Also a shift in the type of jobs (manufacturing vs professional services etc) can cause those numbers to fluctuate 

 Also depending on how it's billed people doing 'gig work' may not show up as 'hourly'. Generally when it IS reflected it's at a lower value.    GDP per capita offers a more stable reference that accounts for the value created in total by the total population. It also is a good measure of quality of life.

Which is why i used it. 

Now you can make an argument that using a completely different figure as you did has benefit for whatever reason you want to put out there, But you CANNOT deny that you used something completely different and then claimed i was wrong. 

Which means that what you said was completely false. You absolutely lied. You tried to claim that I said something I didn't say and ignored what I did say

 

So no matter what else you want to say you've just admitted that you were a liar and that I was right in what I said  

I sure wish you would try harder, it'd be nice if we could have a conversation where you didn't look like a complete twat in the first paragraph

Oh and side note, alberta's gdp per hour fell too. Sowweee. 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It's considered a good measure by anyone with knowledge.

The measure of the income/wealth gap should be the only index anyone really needs.

Keep the 1 - 20% line and the 0 80% line more or less parallel on a graph with a little crossover from time to time for good measure. I'm sure we could come up with a gini coefficient for wealthy people so we can gauge how cranky they are and increase their diaper deductible to take a load off from time to time.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

The measure of the income/wealth gap should be the only index anyone really needs.

 

That's pretty stupid even for you. Although considering all you care about is virtue signal and I suppose I see where you're coming from

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Keep the 1 - 20% line and the 0 80% line more or less parallel on a graph with a little crossover from time to time for good measure. I'm sure we could come up with a gini coefficient for wealthy people so we can gauge how cranky they are and increase their diaper deductible to take a load off from time to time.

Sure, you won't communism. Nobody's going for that and it wouldn't make the poor richer it would just make the rich poorer. I know that all you really care about is making the wealthy suffer even if it means making the poor suffer more but most people aren't on that page

 

[Nationalist]

19 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I don't need to, because you're only embarrassing yourself further with statements like this.  GDP per capita is generally considered a poor measurement of productivity because it includes too many things that have absolutely nothing to do with efficiency (which is what productivity is all about). 

Alberta's GDP per capita is 10% lower now than it was in 2014.  That's not because Alberta got lazier or less efficient.  It's because oil prices crashed and still haven't really recovered.  This fundamentally altered the landscape of their economy and despite their oil and gas industry being far more efficient (productive) than in 2014, they just don't earn as much per barrel as they used to.  

As usual, you're proving you know less than nothing about the topics on which you bullshit.  

This isn't a good argument. 

See...had the Greenies not shut down the Keystone and Canadian pipelines, all of Canada would be better off. If the carney would just let the farming and mining sectors do business without choking them off with regulations and taxes, we'd all be better off.

[WestCanMan]

1. Bring in millions of unskilled immigrants and give them free money

2. Insult global superpowers for a decade

3. Destroy your own energy sector

4. Waste hundreds of billions of dollars

8. Lie. Coast. Cheat. Sell out Canadians. Get your own businesses set up on foreign countries while our country sinks.

5. Notice a lack of productivity

6. Start a study about it, employing some of your most useless friends

7. Give the CBC another billion right before the next election, and call some people racists

 

[BeaverFever]

Timely communication. Here is Carney telling Canadians that his government’s ONLY response to productivity and cost of living is for the PM to order a 15-year study. 
 

 

 Must be why he’s so far behind PP in the polls  

/ end sarcasm 

Edited February 25 by BeaverFever

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Timely communication. Here is Carney telling Canadians that his government’s ONLY response to productivity and cost of living is for the PM to order a 15-year study. 

 

I could only make it halfway through before the nausea set in but I didn't hear him mention productivity once.

You're trying to include cost of living which is no part of this discussion because you know that I'm right and he's dropping the ball on productivity and you're desperately trying to change the channel

Worse he's trying to blame the pandemic and saying that inflation isn't bad at all right now, except our food inflation is over 7%. Food is the number one thing you can't go without, you can cancel your Disney plus but you can't cancel food.

He desperately wants the problems of today to be the previous government's fault but the previous government is the current government and the problems of today are still happening today

A 15-year study is not a reasonable response to a productivity problem that we're having today and it's his only response

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I could only make it 35 seconds through before Carney Derangement Syndrome set in so I didn't hear him mention productivity once and have nothing intelligent to say and will continue my usual bullshitting

FTFY

Edited February 25 by BeaverFever

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

I know i lied about what you said, but i knew i couldn't argue with the truth so i had to change it. I can't deal with the truth emotionally.  I'm the victim here!

Its ok Beve,  we know.