BeaverFever Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) On 1/29/2026 at 10:40 AM, gatomontes99 said: USAToday: Investigators with the Federal Bureau of Investigations raided an elections facility in Atlanta Wednesday in a supposed search for materials related to the 2020 election. Remember this from last week? Politico: President Donald Trump on Wednesday said individuals will soon be prosecuted for their role in what he called the “rigged 2020 election,” continuing his fixation on an election he lost. He was foreshadowing this week's raid. What I find very interesting is that the head of DNI was there. Does that indicate a foreign slant? In any case, this all follows an admission by Georgia's elections that they had no signatures on a ton of votes: Atlanta First: Fulton County admits to verifying 315,000 votes in 2020 without poll worker signatures That is important because those tapes (which are receipts for what the machine recorded) are supposed to be signed by the local election official AND observed by two witnesses. There was no signature by any of the 3 people. So where did the tapes come from? The end result will be nothing will change. However, if there was some improper action, maybe we can get some convictions. The correct title of this thread should be “Trump’s Assault On Democracy Continues With More Baseless Politically Motivated Investigations”. Subtitle: “Still no evidence to support 2020 stolen election lies” Anyone who believes any of Trump’s baseless and completely fabricated 2020 election conspiracy lies is a brainwashed cultist loser, period. It os a waste of time and energy to even debate it, it’s like trying to convince an ISIS member that Islam is jot the one true religion. Their beliefs cannot be dislodged with facts and logic because they were not formed through facts and logic in the first place. Edited January 31 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
User Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: The correct title of this thread should be “Trump’s Assault On Democracy Continues With More Baseless Politically Motivated Investigations”. Subtitle: “Still no evidence to support 2020 stolen election lies” Anyone who believes any of Trump’s baseless and completely fabricated 2020 election conspiracy lies is a brainwashed cultist loser, period. It os a waste of time and energy to even debate it, it’s like trying to convince an ISIS member that Islam is jot the one true religion. Their beliefs cannot be dislodged with facts and logic because they were not formed through facts and logic in the first place. Do you have any evidence that the FBI was acting improperly here or that they did not have evidence to act on here? Was the warrant fabricated or something? Was the Judge in on this big conspiracy of yours, too? Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Just now, User said: Do you have any evidence that the FBI was acting improperly here or that they did not have evidence to act on here? Was the warrant fabricated or something? Was the Judge in on this big conspiracy of yours, too? Only in the Orwellian dictatorship hellscape you people are trying to create do people need to present evidence of innocence when targeted by the state. Where is the evidence of wrongdoing? All of Trump’s 2020 election lies were thoroughly investigated and debunked half a decade ago. This is yet another of his politically motivated abuses of power that has no basis in fact because he is still butthurt after having legitimately lost the election. Quote
User Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: Only in the Orwellian dictatorship hellscape you people are trying to create do people need to present evidence of innocence when targeted by the state. Where is the evidence of wrongdoing? All of Trump’s 2020 election lies were thoroughly investigated and debunked half a decade ago. This is yet another of his politically motivated abuses of power that has no basis in fact because he is still butthurt after having legitimately lost the election. Who said anything about evidence of innocence? You are the one here pushing some conspiracy without evidence that this warrant was some kind of assault on Democracy. The FBI had a warrant to investigate violations of federal election law signed off by a Judge. Are you unaware of this? Do you need me to spoon-feed you the details of that? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 38 minutes ago, User said: Yes... did you have a point? Mine was pretty clear. You are playing a game as if the fact that no one investigated anything before somehow discounts this investigation now. So the fact that a Republican Governor did not see a cause for an investigation means... What then? The FBI is now stacked with Trump loyalists, but there now we have finally arrived at objectivity right? I still have faith in the system, and I firmly believe nothing will come of this if a real judge gets to look at it. 2 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: So the fact that a Republican Governor did not see a cause for an investigation means... What then? The FBI is now stacked with Trump loyalists, but there now we have finally arrived at objectivity right? I still have faith in the system, and I firmly believe nothing will come of this if a real judge gets to look at it. -You tell me what your point is. -You want to speculate with and hide behind rhetorical questions, because you can't argue the facts. There was enough evidence to investigate violations of federal election law, a judge reviewed this, signed off on a warrant, and the FBI executed that warrant. -A "real" judge? The Judge who issued the warrant was a real judge. So, do you have anything of substance to offer here, or just try to sow doubt and conspiratorial objections through rhetorical questions? 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 47 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Makes no sense. The FBI just flips back and forth between conspiracies? Does the DOJ change between parties? Who decides: what the FBI does/doesn't investigate? what agents do the investigating? how they frame the investigations? what they say about the validity and amount of evidence in their possession? what the official FBI narratives are? The elected officials are in charge. Quote Every time I read this stuff, it strikes me that it's really absorbed by people. Who've never worked in large organizations and bureaucracies. Every time you see incontrovertible evidence of rampant FBI lies and crimes you shrug it off. An actual judge in a court of law said that the FBI lied multiple times and even fabricated evidence during the collusion witch hunt. An actual judge in a court of law said that the FBI planned Whitmer's kidnapping themselves, that the FBI's own informants/agent provocateurs outnumbered the accused, and then that judge accepted an entrapment defence which is extremely rare in the US, and maybe unprecedented against the FBI. Subsequent trials of the FBI's own kidnapping plot were not allowed to reference the entrapment cases. There's no doubt whatsoever that the "51 ex-intelligence operatives" lied about the laptop, and the FBI never set the record straight about that. They let that lie grow wings until the election was over, while the NYPost was kicked off of FB and Twitter for telling the truth, and we were all called conspiracy theorists for talking about it. What was ever said or done about all of those lies and omissions? There's no doubt now that the FBI lied about the presence of their own agent provocateurs in the J6th crowd. It wasn't just a few, they numbered in the dozens. There's no doubt that the FBI conducted lengthy investigations to find people guilty of sedition while they simultaneously ignored evidence Ray Epps committing textbook sedition, on video, multiple times. Epps was never charged with sedition. This isn't "something that's absorbed by people", Michael. This is just something that your own confirmation bias prevents you from considering, despite all of the evidence that is currently verified. The FBI is just like the alt-left MSM. They both get the easy, non-political stories right, and they use that success as a tool to polish their own reputations. And then they both lie like murderous psychopaths whenever they want to. Buddy, FYI I didn't want to come to the conclusion that the CBC is just as bad as Xinhua. I'd love to think that our national news network has more credibility than that of a communist regime that murdered millions of their own people. That being said, did the Chinese gov't even murder any of their own people? How the hell would I know? I wasn't there, and I got my stories from the F'n CBC. Maybe the Chinese gov't is awesome, and cute and cuddly. The FACT is that the history of the communist Chinese gov't lies somewhere between the version that we hear over here, and the official Xinhua version. That's a fact, Michael. We are being lied to, the Chinese people are being lied to, and almost no one on earth even knows the truth anymore, because the lies are so pervasive. That's how history works: the winner write the history. 1 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: The correct title of this thread should be “Trump’s Assault On Democracy Continues With More Baseless Politically Motivated Investigations”. Subtitle: “Still no evidence to support 2020 stolen election lies”. "The credibility of FBI investigations can never be questioned. No level of evidence can ever prove FBI malfeasance or corruption." I'm just quoting you, Beave, so take that for what it's worth. 2 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
User Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: "The credibility of FBI investigations can never be questioned. No level of evidence can ever prove FBI malfeasance or corruption." I'm just quoting you, Beave, so take that for what it's worth. They never want to argue the facts directly because they know they can't. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, User said: -You tell me what your point is. I firmly believe nothing will come of this if a real judge gets to look at it. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
robosmith Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 16 hours ago, WestCanMan said: That's the left4rd opinio in a nutshell, so thanks for reminding us how you guys feel about this, but for your information: uncovering fraud and crime isn't "re-writing history", it's "correcting the historical record" and possibly bringing criminals to justice. Is your opinion that "If people committed a crime and got away with it, we should just ignore it now and move on, because I like the status quo"? Don't you think that election integrity is more important than protecting criminals? NO EVIDENCE of "criminals" ^here. Trump lost 60+ cases failing to prove ANY crimes. Quote
User Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I firmly believe nothing will come of this if a real judge gets to look at it. -A "real" judge? The Judge who issued the warrant was a real judge. A Judge did look at this. 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: NO EVIDENCE of "criminals" ^here. Trump lost 60+ cases failing to prove ANY crimes. I see you are still mindlessly repeating this bogus talking point. Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, User said: Who said anything about evidence of innocence? You are the one here pushing some conspiracy without evidence that this warrant was some kind of assault on Democracy. The FBI had a warrant to investigate violations of federal election law signed off by a Judge. Are you unaware of this? Do you need me to spoon-feed you the details of that? FACT: Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are massively unqualified MAGA nutjobs who believe in 2020 conspiracy lies FACT: They have already tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to persecute Trump’s enemies with baseless and unwarranted investigations and prosecutions. FACT: They haven’t provided any evidence to show this investigation is warranted It’s obvious Trump is on a wild fishing expedition, they don’t even know what they’re searching for, just hoping to find something ANYTHING that they can prosecute those 2 black women who MAGA tried and failed to go after previously and ended up having to pay millions in damages to for their defamation and harrowing. 1 Quote
User Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: FACT: Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are massively unqualified MAGA nutjobs who believe in 2020 conspiracy lies Irrelevant. 13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: FACT: They have already tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to persecute Trump’s enemies with baseless and unwarranted investigations and prosecutions. Irrelevant. 14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: FACT: They haven’t provided any evidence to show this investigation is warranted Not a fact. A Judge reviewed the evidence and found sufficient grounds to issue a warrant. 14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: It’s obvious Trump is on a wild fishing expedition, they don’t even know what they’re searching for, just hoping to find something ANYTHING that they can prosecute those 2 black women who MAGA tried and failed to go after previously and ended up having to pay millions in damages to for their defamation and harrowing. The warrant specifically identified the laws under investigation and the scope of the search authorized. Quote
Legato Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: So the fact that a Republican Governor did not see a cause for an investigation means... What then? It means the 13 camels are only enough to tickle your fancy. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: The correct title of this thread should be “Trump’s Assault On Democracy Continues With More Baseless Politically Motivated Investigations”. Subtitle: “Still no evidence to support 2020 stolen election lies” Really? You want to call Trump the threat to Democracy? Isn't it your side of the aisle that is protesting ICE? Why? What is ICE doing? They are enforcing the law as written. Those laws have been written and passed by multiple Congresses. They have had support by Republicans, Democrats and Independents. Those laws were signed by Presidents from both sides of the aisle and every damn one was dually elected. Those laws were then tested thousand upon thousands upon thousands of times in court, and every single time they stood. Those laws are good. They are just. Yet, your side of the aisle wishes to suspend those laws by using intimidation and force to prevent the government from executing the laws our REPUBLIC agreed upon. They are not engaged in democracy or anything similar. They are autocrat wannabes. They are bent on dominating our government through force. They have zero interest in a democratic process. When they take to the streets to riot, they are terrorists. When they burn cars they are terrorists. Whe they loot businesses, they are terrorists. When they burn down those businesses, they are terrorists. When they shot that ICE facilities in Texas, killing immigrants, they are terrorists. When they shot Charlie Kirk they are terrorists. And when they tried to assassinate Trump...TWICE...they are terrorists. So no, Trump checking unsigned tapes and investigating how this could happen is no attack on Democracy. This is the reinforcement and the return of democracy in the face of the terrorists that roam our streets today. 2 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
WestCanMan Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I firmly believe [really hope] nothing will come of this if a real [because an activist] judge gets to look at it. Fixed it for ya. If Trump was like the Dems, then someone would leave the DOJ to go to a lower court and act as prosecutor, and the judge would be a regular FB clown who was constantly posting about how much he hates the Dems. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
CdnFox Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 1/29/2026 at 7:48 AM, Michael Hardner said: Everybody heard the tape of Trump trying to interfere with the elections and the public statements of the Republican governor. Trying to rewrite the past to make Trump the hero isn't going to reverse the terrible direction America is taking. My advice to his team is to do a coup now since their politics is turning out to be even worse than their ability to manage... Bit of a lie. Just like people on your side of the fence insisted that he claimed there would be blood in the streets if he lost but that's not really what was said Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Really? You want to call Trump the threat to Democracy? Isn't it your side of the aisle that is protesting ICE? Why? What is ICE doing? They are enforcing the law as written. Those laws have been written and passed by multiple Congresses. They have had support by Republicans, Democrats and Independents. Those laws were signed by Presidents from both sides of the aisle and every damn one was dually elected. Those laws were then tested thousand upon thousands upon thousands of times in court, and every single time they stood. Those laws are good. They are just. Yet, your side of the aisle wishes to suspend those laws by using intimidation and force to prevent the government from executing the laws our REPUBLIC agreed upon. They are not engaged in democracy or anything similar. They are autocrat wannabes. They are bent on dominating our government through force. They have zero interest in a democratic process. When they take to the streets to riot, they are terrorists. When they burn cars they are terrorists. Whe they loot businesses, they are terrorists. When they burn down those businesses, they are terrorists. When they shot that ICE facilities in Texas, killing immigrants, they are terrorists. When they shot Charlie Kirk they are terrorists. And when they tried to assassinate Trump...TWICE...they are terrorists. So no, Trump checking unsigned tapes and investigating how this could happen is no attack on Democracy. This is the reinforcement and the return of democracy in the face of the terrorists that roam our streets today. Something I've said here a million times. If the left doesn't like the law, then they should have changed the law and should be aiming for change now. That is how things are done. Obama should have changed the law, or biden should have. IF you want these people to be legal. And whenever that is brought up the left wing posters here run and hide. They are well aware americans by and large do NOT want the law changed. So they don't want to bring it up. They just want to leave the laws in place BUT ignore them. "NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW! Except people we like" - the left 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Michael Hardner Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 16 hours ago, User said: A Judge did look at this. I'm talking about the judgment, not a warrant. I have formed an opinion on this matter, but it would be changed by a judgment. The opinion is formed by my hearing Trump's call to find votes, which appears to be interference. And the defense of his behavior by his admirers doesn't sway me. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: "NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW! Except people we like" - the left Kyle Rittenhouse vs Alex Pretti! - the right Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 20 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Kyle Rittenhouse vs Alex Pretti! - the right So one guy went to protect businesses from unlawfulness and the other went to protect criminals. I wonder what the difference is? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: Kyle Rittenhouse vs Alex Pretti! - the right What law is it you think we think Rittenhouse is above? Quote
User Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm talking about the judgment, not a warrant. I have formed an opinion on this matter, but it would be changed by a judgment. The opinion is formed by my hearing Trump's call to find votes, which appears to be interference. And the defense of his behavior by his admirers doesn't sway me. This is a discussion thread on the serving of a warrant. What does Trumps phone call have to do with anything on the FBI searching the election office and their alleged criminal actions they are investigating? Quote
Nationalist Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 (edited) 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm talking about the judgment, not a warrant. I have formed an opinion on this matter, but it would be changed by a judgment. The opinion is formed by my hearing Trump's call to find votes, which appears to be interference. And the defense of his behavior by his admirers doesn't sway me. You weren't talking about final judgements. Come on mike. Tell me, if it happens that even more "mistakes" are found, what then? 'ITS NOT ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE RESULTS! SO THERE!' Is that how Democracy is served? I've always found it...suspicious...that the very people who say they are "defending Democracy", turn out to be the ones caught 'with their fingers in the cookiejar'. Its more than proven that there was quite a bit of fraud going on. How much? More than normal. And it all seemed to be skewed one way. Funny that, eh? One real victim with this is public trust. Respect. People are so disappointed in this...street fight, that they dont believe anything anymore. Edited February 1 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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