paxamericana Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: We will not beg. So what’s Carney doing in China then? You’re all beggars can’t even see it. 3 hours ago, herbie said: We dare you to set foot on any Forces base, bring Vance, Miller and Lutnick along to share the beating. The tariff just got that much higher. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: That was a facetious comment...won't happen. LOL We will not beg. No...we will get on both knees....put our hair back in a bun and do what we have to do for as long as it takes, to get those 100% tariffs removed....or the US will buy us for penny's on a dollar in a year... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
paxamericana Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: or the US will buy us for penny's on a dollar in a year Yup which is why it’s fine by me these prideful Canuck keep elbowing up. I’ll buy them out in a few years on the cheap. Literally too prideful to see the trap. ->@ExFlyer Edited January 24 by paxamericana Quote
eyeball Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: For sure...that is exactly what is happening...we hate interference by other countries but we like to tell other countries we do not like their standards or what they do internally....kind hypocritical eh? Not at all when the interference has merit. 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Trading partners do not need to be friends or do as we say or like...they just need to buy what we have to sell and smile at each other while trading. Buyers are free to choose what they buy or not and from whom. Consumers, at least in Canada for the moment, are also perfectly free to influence their elected representatives to reflect their values when making trade deals. Political parties who ignore this do so at their peril. 2 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: We are upset that China sends spies and people to influence and bribe our politicians, and threatens their expatriates China is upset that we criticize it for genocide. The Americans have considerably better morals than China. Sure, but they're considerably less polite, more bellicose and more aggressive towards us. Who needs that? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: considerably less polite Truth is not polite . 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: more aggressive towards us You all asked for it. you were offered statehood. You made us have all these pleasantry. You think America likes to punish Canada??? We do not! We’re all better off working together but your own pride is getting the better of you. Edited January 24 by paxamericana 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: No...we will get on both knees....put our hair back in a bun and do what we have to do for as long as it takes, to get those 100% tariffs removed....or the US will buy us for penny's on a dollar in a year... For sure people like you will.... Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I told you guys that Trump was just calling Carney's bluff, and letting him paint himself further and further into a corner. Before this, average, everyday Americans had no real beef with us, and now our relationship is eroding at an alarming pace. Trudeau and Carney have been pi55ing off India, Japan, China and the US for a decade now. The only reason China even listened to Carney last week was to stick his thumb in America's eye. Trust and confidence between the US and Canada were never in doubt until we elected these liberal jackasses. And TBH, they're not the actual problem. The actual problem in Canada, again, is the fact that our liberal leaders know that they can do and say whatever they want and our media will whitewash their mistakes, ignore their scandals, slander their opponents, back their lies, push their false narratives, and heap praise on everything they say and do that's not catastrophic. It works internally, because the gov't and the MSM are a tagteam that can bully Canadians and lead a small majority of us around by the nose, but our MSM can't do a thing for them internationally, because no one in India, China, Japan or the US gives a F what the CBC and CTV have to say. When we f those countries over, it doesn't get swept under the rug by their MSM. Canada's reputation is now on the slippery slope. We've rubbed too many raw nerves in the past decade and we are now running out of free passes that took generations to accumulate. Unless all these muslim countries that we gave so many billions of dollars to us somehow find it in their hearts to love their first non-muslim country, we are running out of friends. It’s all our fault. We are to blame for anything America does to us. 1 2 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
paxamericana Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 20 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: It’s all our fault. We are to blame for anything America does to us. Well that’s a good start. You can’t get better until you recognize that you have a problem, take ownership. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: Only Trump is eroding anything. American citizens and American companies want things back as they were between us. Nice try, idjit. None of them even cared when he talked about making us the 51st state. Quote Not to mention the hypocrisy: How dare Doug Ford take out a truthful ad and "interfere in American politics" The ad that Mark "elbows up!" bite-the-pillow Carney apologized for? 😂 Quote And: We've always traded with China and the US. How many Chinese cars/trucks/EV's have we sold here? Quote And we've got just as many 'friends' around the world as we always hd. Probably more, but we lost the superpowers and gained some welfare muslim states. Quote Cry me a Phucking river! FYI it's not normal or healthy for a country to have their MSM controlled by one political party. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
herbie Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I told you guys that Trump was just calling Carney's bluff, and letting him paint himself further and further into a corner. That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen yet. Sounds like one petulant teenager backing up another. Yeah your Dad will only give you the ten bucks in his wallet and not drive to town to the ATM for more because he's cheap and doesn't love you. Carney is the one that's bluffing and losing face? Not Mr. Threaten&insult? TACO TACO TACO TACO 1 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 1 minute ago, herbie said: That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen yet. Sounds like one petulant teenager backing up another. It was 100% accurate, you're just a dumb cultist who won't admit to anything. Carney's trip to China was political suicide for half the country, and all of the US. Carney is almost as reviled as Trudeau is now, and that's after 1/10th the time in the PMO. Quote Carney is the one that's bluffing and losing face? Not Mr. Threaten&insult? TACO TACO TACO TACO .You're not a big believer in trends, or patterns, are you 😂 Carney - the guy who is always backpeddling and caving ,when he's not biting the pillow- is gonna cave again. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Army Guy Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: For sure people like you will.... With 67.3 percent of our trade going south...Most Canadians will be in that line if those tariffs are put on.....if they want to pay rent and eat that is.. 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Politics1990 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 yawn don't care. the donald is upset call the wambluence 5 hours ago, Army Guy said: No...we will get on both knees....put our hair back in a bun and do what we have to do for as long as it takes, to get those 100% tariffs removed....or the US will buy us for penny's on a dollar in a year... oh jeeze i hope you are retired we don't need people like you in the army 2 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 11 hours ago, WestCanMan said: FYI it's not normal or healthy for a country to have their MSM controlled by one political party. We have one National broadcaster, as do dozens and dozens of other countries in the world. It operates at arm's length. Other networks are privately owned. Our national newspaper is owned by a conservative family. The largest press chain is majority American owned. 1 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 (edited) 13 hours ago, Army Guy said: With 67.3 percent of our trade going south...Most Canadians will be in that line if those tariffs are put on.....if they want to pay rent and eat that is.. Are you American?? You do realize it is the Americans that pay the tariffs? They have to buy the imports, not us. Canadians can pay the rent and eat if we sell our exports. Will Trumps 100% tariffs also include all the electricity the US imports from Quebec and powers a huge market in the Eastern Seaboard of the US?? Or The electricity from Ontario that supplies a large part of Michigan and other states?? How about a 100% tariff on the oil form Alberta?? Lastly, almost all of our exports are covered under CUSMA which has no (or very little) tariff. Unless Trump decides to invalidate CUSMA now, things remain the same. Edited January 25 by ExFlyer 2 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
John Stone Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 ............ second floor, balcony, sliding window ............................dead of night. 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: They have to buy the imports, not us. See that's the thing, you didn't go full circle. You think America will pay that added tax to subsidize Canada? Nope Americans will stop buying from Canada. He's right, you all will be joining the breadline soon 1 2 Quote
blackbird Posted January 25 Author Report Posted January 25 (edited) 45 minutes ago, paxamericana said: See that's the thing, you didn't go full circle. You think America will pay that added tax to subsidize Canada? Nope Americans will stop buying from Canada. He's right, you all will be joining the breadline soon Your motto is "Interests: American Hegemony, Manifest Destiny, American Imperialism" 1. Do you consider yourself a Christian, i.e., a Bible believer? 2. How do you reconcile your motto with God's law that says "thou shalt not steal" if you believe it is fine to reject the sovereignty of other countries and/or take them over? Isn't respect for private property of others a central teaching of the Bible? The sovereignty of a country is also private property and human rights, life, and liberty are private property. So taking over other countries might also involve killing which the Bible condemns. "thou shalt not kill", "thou shalt not steal". "love they neighbour as thyself". All these things would be violated if you say it is alright to take over other countries. What would be the difference between Hitler's Nazis or Putin's Russia conquering and taking over other countries and using the ideology of "American Hegemony, Manifest Destiny, American Imperialism" to take over or control other sovereign countries? I would suggest that ideology is completely contrary to the Bible. I doubt one could be a genuine Christian and at the same time believe in that ideology. The two are completely incompatible. Just because a country has the military capability to take over other countries, does not mean it would be right. Just because you are a citizen of said country, doesn't mean you have the right to support or agree with that ideology if it is contrary to God's written revelation, the Bible. God will judge each person individually. "13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7: 13, 14 KJV Edited January 25 by blackbird Quote
paxamericana Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 (edited) 24 minutes ago, blackbird said: Your motto is "Interests: American Hegemony, Manifest Destiny, American Imperialism" It’s possible to have multiple interest yes. Great question. 1. Absorbing Canada is absolutely consistent with scripture. If we are to unite , then you should not resist. from every nation, tribe, people, and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb 24 minutes ago, blackbird said: 2. How do you reconcile Brother, do not mistake the New Testament as the only testament. The land of milk and honey is ripe with conquest and killing. The Bible says Thou shall not murder. It didn’t say you can’t kill. “ratsach, which refers to premeditated or unlawful killing, rather than all forms of killing (such as in self-defense, war, or authorized capital punishment).” Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. That’s America, meek. The Greek word for those who wield a sword but keep it sheathed. Yes America absolutely could conquer Canada but we chose not to. That doesn’t mean we can’t put up trade barriers to outsider mmkay. Since Canada insist it must maintain outsider status or sovereignty as you’re calling it. Edited January 25 by paxamericana 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, paxamericana said: See that's the thing, you didn't go full circle. You think America will pay that added tax to subsidize Canada? Nope Americans will stop buying from Canada. He's right, you all will be joining the breadline soon Seriously??? Are you on of those Americans that still thinks the exporter pays the tariffs...even today, after a year of Trump? You do know that you, the American that buys the stuff pays the tariff?? LOL How ya gonna make out when a 100% tariff is put on all the electricity your eastern seaboard imports form Quebec?? Or when Michigan and several other middle states have to pay 100% tariff for the electricity they import or from Ontario. ? Oh and, what about the oil coming from Alberta??? Besides, as I said....CUSMA is in effect for most products imported into the US from Canada (and Mexico) and they are basically tariff and tax free. So, unless Trump tears up CUSMA..it is all "dust in the wind" and meaningless LOL I truly thouhgt you were smarter than your comments LOL Edited January 25 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 36 minutes ago, blackbird said: Your motto is "Interests: American Hegemony, Manifest Destiny, American Imperialism" 1. Do you consider yourself a Christian, i.e., a Bible believer? 2. How do you reconcile your motto with God's law that says "thou shalt not steal" if you believe it is fine to reject the sovereignty of other countries and/or take them over? Isn't respect for private property of others a central teaching of the Bible? The sovereignty of a country is also private property and human rights, life, and liberty are private property. So taking over other countries might also involve killing which the Bible condemns. "thou shalt not kill", "thou shalt not steal". "love they neighbour as thyself". All these things would be violated if you say it is alright to take over other countries. What would be the difference between Hitler's Nazis or Putin's Russia conquering and taking over other countries and using the ideology of "American Hegemony, Manifest Destiny, American Imperialism" to take over or control other sovereign countries? I would suggest that ideology is completely contrary to the Bible. I doubt one could be a genuine Christian and at the same time believe in that ideology. The two are completely incompatible. Just because a country has the military capability to take over other countries, does not mean it would be right. Just because you are a citizen of said country, doesn't mean you have the right to support or agree with that ideology if it is contrary to God's written revelation, the Bible. God will judge each person individually. "13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7: 13, 14 KJV You have been very readable and cogent lately on this topic and then off you go...thumpin the bible and your credibility collapses. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
blackbird Posted January 25 Author Report Posted January 25 (edited) 56 minutes ago, paxamericana said: The Bible says Thou shall not murder. It didn’t say you can’t kill. No, the words in the King James Bible are "thou shalt not kill" Exodus 20:13 KJV The modern Bible versions changed the word kill to murder. There is a difference between the two words. The word murder could be interpreted as a legal term, that is, whatever a country's law says is murder and what a country says is not murder. That is not what the King James Bible says and the King James Bible is the only real Bible. It is based on the Received Text. The modern versions are based on the corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts and countless wordings were also changed by the translators of modern versions. The word "kill" is the correct word and refers to any killing that is contrary to the Bible. There are certain exceptions such as self defence, or capital punishment (Genesis 9:6 KJV). But aggression against another country is not an exception to the command in Exodus 20:13 KJV. 56 minutes ago, paxamericana said: 1. Absorbing Canada is absolutely consistent with scripture. If we are to unite , then you should not resist. That would be completely contrary to the Holy Bible or Holy Scripture as I already described. That would be a violation of the sovereignty of another country, stealing on a massive scale as well as a complete violation of human rights. I doubt you could be considered a Christian if that is what you really believe. That is fascist ideology. It is a cult. You appear to know nothing at all about the Bible. Edited January 25 by blackbird 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 35 minutes ago, blackbird said: No, the words in the King James Bible are "thou shalt not kill" Exodus 20:13 KJV The modern Bible versions changed the word kill to murder. There is a difference between the two words. The word murder could be interpreted as a legal term, that is, whatever a country's law says is murder and what a country says is not murder. That is not what the King James Bible says and the King James Bible is the only real Bible. It is based on the Received Text. The modern versions are based on the corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts and countless wordings were also changed by the translators of modern versions. The word "kill" is the correct word and refers to any killing that is contrary to the Bible. There are certain exceptions such as self defence, or capital punishment (Genesis 9:6 KJV). But aggression against another country is not an exception to the command in Exodus 20:13 KJV. That would be completely contrary to the Holy Bible or Holy Scripture as I already described. That would be a violation of the sovereignty of another country, stealing on a massive scale as well as a complete violation of human rights. I doubt you could be considered a Christian if that is what you really believe. That is fascist ideology. It is a cult. You appear to know nothing at all about the Bible. Trying to biblize political discussions only makes you look narrow and single minded and lacks credibility. Let the sermonizing go. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Legato Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: We have one National broadcaster, as do dozens and dozens of other countries in the world. It operates at arm's length. Other networks are privately owned. Our national newspaper is owned by a conservative family. The largest press chain is majority American owned. Which makes not a single iota of difference if the government is subsidising these so called "news" outlets. The arm you mention is also tied at the hip. Quote
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