CdnFox Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 Carney called china and its relationship with Canada part of the "new world order" That was a phrase linked to shadowy 'davros style' gov'ts by conspiracy nuts and the like and it's got some severely negative connotations and was received very badly So instead of showing it cbc edited it out. They are nothing more than the propaganda wing of the federal liberals. 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 5 hours ago, CdnFox said: They are nothing more than the propaganda wing of the federal liberals. You're reduced to pathetically grasping at straws. So sad. 2 1 1 Quote
John Stone Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 ...............these days the stench of rhetoric is more closely focused on the internet. 1 Quote
Politics1990 Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 settle down he didn't mean anything bad by it lol. he meant it with whats going on with the usa 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 8 hours ago, Barquentine said: You're reduced to pathetically grasping at straws. So sad. LOL and you're reduced to crying like a baby and hurling grade 2 insults because you can't actually make a counter argument Sorry your heroes disappoint you kiddo. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Politics1990 said: settle down he didn't mean anything bad by it lol. he meant it with whats going on with the usa Whether we mention anything bad or not it is the worst possible choice of words. You can see how moe reacts when he says it And the problem is rather than letting people watch it and decide from themselves the CBC new it would be harmful and chose to edit it out to protect him. Because they knew a lot of people would take it badly. Especially the ultra creepy way he said it So this isn't a story about him and his new world order, which we'll talk about some other time because it's creepy AF, This is a story about how he said something dumb that would hurt him and the CBC covered it up rather than showing it to the public Another proof on top of a pile the size of the empire state building to prove the CBC is propaganda for the liberals 2 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Zeitgeist Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 (edited) 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: Carney called china and its relationship with Canada part of the "new world order" That was a phrase linked to shadowy 'davros style' gov'ts by conspiracy nuts and the like and it's got some severely negative connotations and was received very badly So instead of showing it cbc edited it out. They are nothing more than the propaganda wing of the federal liberals. He said it in a very ominous way too, like he wanted everyone to hear it and perhaps even to worry about it, which immediately made him look like a nervous Eisenhower warning the public about the military industrial complex while he still had a platform to do so. I can’t help but think that he knows a hard rain’s gonna fall. What I can’t discern is whether he’s really a victim or a proponent of the situation. I think he’s playing both sides of the fence. Keep China as an alternative market and leverage against the U.S. but check that Washington doesn’t disapprove to such an extent that Canada is further abused. He also probably thinks his international network offers potential protection and maybe Trump’s volatile threats will pass, but then what fills that power vacuum? I hope it’s not net zero globalist stakeholder capitalists. Edited January 17 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: He said it in a very ominous way too, like he wanted everyone to hear it and perhaps even to worry about it, which immediately made him look like a nervous Eisenhower warning the public about the military industrial complex while he still had a platform to do so. I can’t help but think that he knows a hard rain’s gonna fall. What I can’t discern is whether he’s really a victim or a proponent of the situation. I think he’s playing both sides of the fence. Keep China as an alternative market and leverage against the U.S. but check that Washington doesn’t disapprove to such an extent that Canada is further abused. He also probably thinks his international network offers potential protection and maybe Trump’s volatile threats will pass, but then what fills that power vacuum? I hope it’s not net zero globalist stakeholder capitalists. I think everything you said has validity, but I think it's still coming from a point of view where you are assuming that the interests he has in his mind are Canadian. I think he's trying to set up his relationships for after he leaves office which is where the real money starts. Remember that as part of Justin's trade mission he went to represent Canada but also negotiated a deal for brookfield for the loan of the $500 billion that elon musk used to buy twitter. That is a matter of public record, so we already have substantial business dealings with these people and I think he wants to be the guy that you call if you need a $500 billion dollar loan in the future from someone and he'll arrange it with a small 5% commission I do not believe that his current actions are intended to serve the interest of Canada. He has given access to Canada to the Chinese EV manufacturers basically for free. They have made no commitments, they have not promised to do anything and he has already stated that this is the"Initial " Round of cars with more to come. And we got our tariffs on food that they need reduced to a mere 15% which is still severely egregious, and no guarantee that they won't raise it the next day and if they do we still have to let them bring in their cars 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Zeitgeist Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I think everything you said has validity, but I think it's still coming from a point of view where you are assuming that the interests he has in his mind are Canadian. I think he's trying to set up his relationships for after he leaves office which is where the real money starts. Remember that as part of Justin's trade mission he went to represent Canada but also negotiated a deal for brookfield for the loan of the $500 billion that elon musk used to buy twitter. That is a matter of public record, so we already have substantial business dealings with these people and I think he wants to be the guy that you call if you need a $500 billion dollar loan in the future from someone and he'll arrange it with a small 5% commission I do not believe that his current actions are intended to serve the interest of Canada. He has given access to Canada to the Chinese EV manufacturers basically for free. They have made no commitments, they have not promised to do anything and he has already stated that this is the"Initial " Round of cars with more to come. And we got our tariffs on food that they need reduced to a mere 15% which is still severely egregious, and no guarantee that they won't raise it the next day and if they do we still have to let them bring in their cars Yeah it’s not a good deal, but the farmers were at risk. I just think we’re in a precarious situation. I’m sure Carney has plenty of self interest at work here, but he also doesn’t have many cards. It’s a tough line to walk. Canada has a lot of restoration work ahead and I’m not sure how much of Carney’s Canada Strong message is nothing more than rhetoric. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 20 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Yeah it’s not a good deal, but the farmers were at risk. I just think we’re in a precarious situation. I’m sure Carney has plenty of self interest at work here, but he also doesn’t have many cards. It’s a tough line to walk. Canada has a lot of restoration work ahead and I’m not sure how much of Carney’s Canada Strong message is nothing more than rhetoric. You're thinking he's dismissed the car industry as probably beyond help right now and salvaging what he can in agriculture? I mean maybe, i don't know that our auto manufacturing will survive trump, that's true. And maybe carney decided not worth trying to save when he CAN reduce pain for farmers. but even still, this is still a horrible deal. It hasn't won ANY guarantees for farmers at all. There isn't even a guarantee of what the tariffs will be reduced to, never mind how long. China is going to all but own us, if we don't keep letting more and more of their cars in and next it'll be other products (or else we kill your farmer's business!! Ha ha stupid Gwei lo!!!) And I'm curious at the idea that's being kicked around that we're supposed to have some sort of sympathy because he's been dealt a bad hand. THE LIBERALS WERE THE ONES WHO DEALT THE HAND!!! And he was PART of that! It's like watching someone shoot themselves in the foot and then having someone else claim we can't be too mad that he can't run because it's hard to run with your foot shot. He said he can handle his crap. He said he would go out and get us good trade and get us trading with other countries. He said he could handle trump. He said he could deal with inter provincial trade. I have no mercy for the fact that he is lied about all of that 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
suds Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 There's a saying ..... out of the frying pan and into the fire. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 18 hours ago, Barquentine said: You're reduced to pathetically grasping at straws. So sad. You're reduced to denying reality, again. Tell us how biased you think the CBC is, Barqy. Just be honest. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 The scary thing is that Trump said it was a good move by Carney to make a deal with China. We all know that he doesn't mean it. That was just Trump calling Carney's bluff. He's backed Carney into a corner now where Carney kinda has to follow through on his "49,000 Chinese EV's" deal, and that's like suicide for the Ontario auto industry. Every time there's a strike by the auto workers people go around smashing Hondas, and now there are gonna be cheap Chinese EV's tooling around Ontario... Such a bad look. Americans who were previously unhappy about this trade war will be very happy to just completely end Canada's auto industry after those EV's actually roll out. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Barquentine Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: He's backed Carney into a corner now where Carney kinda has to follow through on his "49,000 Chinese EV's" deal, and that's like suicide for the Ontario auto industry. 49,000 vehicles = about 2% of auto sales in Canada per year. https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/global-automakers-grab-bigger-chunk-180859091.html "Vehicles made outside North America accounted for 34 per cent of Canadian monthly vehicle sales in August." Who's the threat? 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 I think that New World Order (a Republican coined phrase) is apt, and that clipping it would do more damage to Carney than help... 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
eyeball Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 (edited) 22 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You're reduced to denying reality, again. Tell us how biased you think the CBC is, Barqy. Just be honest. Speaking for myself, I'm pretty sure I saw Rosemary rolling her eyeballs when some panelist on At Issue mentioned something Trump had tweeted that morning. I'm left me feeling...completed...like an affirmation... Edited January 19 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I think that New World Order (a Republican coined phrase) is apt, and that clipping it would do more damage to Carney than help... Curious, what damage is it you think it would do more of? Quote
CdnFox Posted January 18 Author Report Posted January 18 12 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The scary thing is that Trump said it was a good move by Carney to make a deal with China. We all know that he doesn't mean it. That was just Trump calling Carney's bluff. He's backed Carney into a corner now where Carney kinda has to follow through on his "49,000 Chinese EV's" deal, and that's like suicide for the Ontario auto industry. Every time there's a strike by the auto workers people go around smashing Hondas, and now there are gonna be cheap Chinese EV's tooling around Ontario... Such a bad look. Americans who were previously unhappy about this trade war will be very happy to just completely end Canada's auto industry after those EV's actually roll out. Yeah, I really don't have a lot of hope that the automotive industry in Ontario is going to bounce back. I think at best it'll be a shell of its former self. They'll have to find a way to transition to something else 6 hours ago, Barquentine said: 49,000 vehicles = about 2% of auto sales in Canada per year. He referred to that as the first round. More will come. And they will be in larger and larger amounts. Please let's not pretend you're dumb enough to think that they're just going to sell this many and that'll be an end to it. Nobody's claiming you're the brightest person on the left but I know you're brighter than that Once the Chinese are here they are here and their vehicles will be sold here in increasing numbers and that absolutely puts severe pressure on the canadian manufacturers. 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Michael Hardner Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 2 hours ago, User said: Curious, what damage is it you think it would do more of? The audience might suspect that we are plunging into disorder? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Legato Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 On 1/17/2026 at 7:54 AM, Barquentine said: You're reduced to pathetically grasping at straws. So sad. Show us all how you sip your tea out of a saucer. Do you wear a napkin? 1 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: Once the Chinese are here they are here and their vehicles will be sold here in increasing numbers and that absolutely puts severe pressure on the canadian manufacturers. Once the Japanese are here, once the Koreans are here, once the Germans are here, once the Mexicans are here, once the Americans are here... According to your argument, we should just stop trading with any country. Brilliant! 1 Quote
John Stone Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 CBC - are Canadian's paid to listen? Akin to a Toronto Blue Jays game - hot dogs are precooked in terms of number. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 15 minutes ago, Barquentine said: According to your argument, we should just stop trading with any country. Brilliant! A Bricklyn in every garage. $5 to every Canadian who gets the reference straight off... 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 Just now, Michael Hardner said: A Bricklyn in every garage. $5 to every Canadian who gets the reference straight off... That's a blast from the past. A friend of mine worked there for a couple of months. Long ago... 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 10 minutes ago, Barquentine said: That's a blast from the past. A friend of mine worked there for a couple of months. Long ago... Oh wow. Tell them I know a podcast who would like to hear their stories Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
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