ExFlyer Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 34 minutes ago, CdnFox said: LOL kid nobody ... Typical confux...always the LOSER LOL LOL LOL 32 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's not much of a point ... Yeah sure....LOSER LOL LOL LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: HOW ARE YOU THIS STUPID?!?!!? WE MAKE LOTS OF EV'S! Google AI: Canada is rapidly becoming a hub for electric vehicle (EV) manufacturing, with significant investments from major automakers and a growing number of electrified vehicle models produced domestically. Current Manufacturing Landscape Major Manufacturers: Several key players are involved in EV manufacturing in Canada, including Stellantis, Honda, Toyota, and Ford. For instance, Stellantis is producing the Chrysler Grand Caravan and Pacifica, with plans to manufacture the fully electric Dodge Charger Daytona at its Brampton, Ontario plant. Honda is also making significant strides with a $15 billion investment to build an electric vehicle battery plant next to its Alliston facility. 2 Investment and Expansion: The Canadian government and various automakers are investing heavily in EV manufacturing. For example, Ford is establishing a $1.2 billion battery materials plant in Quebec, while Volkswagen plans a $7 billion battery plant in Ontario, expected to produce batteries for up to one million vehicles annually. Additionally, Northvolt is set to build a $7 billion gigafactory for EV batteries near Montreal, which will significantly boost local production capabilities. 1 Government Support: The Canadian government is actively supporting the EV sector through funding and initiatives aimed at promoting clean technologies. Recent investments include up to $169.4 million in Linamar Corporation to enhance EV parts manufacturing and semiconductor technologies, which are crucial for battery efficiency. 1 3 Sources Future Outlook The combination of government support, significant investments from automakers, and a focus on sustainable technologies positions Canada as a potential leader in the global EV market. The ongoing developments in battery manufacturing and the establishment of new production facilities are expected to create thousands of jobs and contribute to the country's transition to a net-zero economy. www.canada.ca In summary, Canada is witnessing a robust growth in EV manufacturing, driven by substantial investments, government initiatives, and the commitment of major automotive companies to electrify their production lines. This trend is likely to continue as the demand for electric vehicles increases globally. Motor Illustrated Canada is actively manufacturing electric vehicles (EVs) and is currently undergoing a significant transition to become a major hub for the entire EV supply chain. As of early 2026, several major automakers have either started production or are in the final stages of retooling their Canadian facilities: Active and Upcoming EV Production General Motors (Ingersoll, Ont.): Home to Canada’s first full-scale EV plant (CAMI Assembly), which currently manufactures BrightDrop electric delivery vans. CANCELLED , PLANT CLOSED!!!! Stellantis (Windsor, Ont.): Production is beginning for the 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona, the company's first Canadian-made EV mandate. CANCELLED PLANT Closed Honda (Alliston, Ont.): Retooling is underway for a major $15-billion project to build both EVs and batteries, with production expected to scale up through 2026. NOT YET IN PRODUCTION !!! Ford (Oakville, Ont.): While undergoing a major $1.8-billion transition to an EV hub, production start dates were recently shifted to 2027 to align with market demand. FORD AS NOT YET BEGUN and MAY NOT Volkswagen (St. Thomas, Ont.): Constructing a massive gigafactory for EV batteries, with production expected to begin by 2027. SAYS SO BUT NOT YET BEGUN The Battery Supply Chain Canada has recently been ranked as a global leader in the EV battery supply chain. Key projects include: Northvolt (Montreal, Que.): A $7-billion battery gigafactory scheduled to begin operations by the end of 2026. NOT YET BUILT Umicore (Loyalist Township, Ont.): A facility dedicated to building critical battery components. NOT YET MANUFACTURING GM and POSCO (Bécancour, Que.): A joint venture plant for cathode materials expected to be operational in 2025/2026. STILL A VENTURE You forgot to add this: AI can make mistakes, so double-check responses Edited January 20 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
suds Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 A question.... Why can't we build our own Canadian owned and operated auto industry? Canadian companies build buses, trucks, etc., so why can't we build a freaking car or light truck? Lots of other countries do it. It's not exactly like asking someone to build an F-35 from scratch. Or we can keep going on the way we're going now, like throwing billions of dollars and getting on our knees and pleading with foreign companies to come and open up a plant. And then probably end up getting screwed over. Quote
Barquentine Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If you take the phone number of a girl you meet does it mean that you're gonna have kids with her? You have hundreds of phone numbers in your cell phone: what difference does it make if you have one more? Why would your wife be mad? WTF are you talking about? 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You have no idea how protective Americans are of their economy. https://www.usimportdata.com/blogs/top-us-car-imports-by-country-in-2024 As per the US import shipment data for 2024, there are 2.16 million active car import shipments in the USA. https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-taiwan/peoples-republic-china China Trade Summary U.S. goods and services trade with China totaled an estimated $658.9 billion in 2024, up 2.6 percent ($17 billion) from 2023 And the US is losing manufacturing jobs every month, which meand their imports will go up. Some protection! 1 Quote
suds Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 (edited) Excellent piece in the NP by Joe Varner on Carney and this 'new world order' stuff. An excerpt... In Chinese strategic doctrine, a “new world order” is not about reforming globalization. Its real objective is displacing U.S. power, weakening Western alliances, and replacing liberal norms with a hierarchical system built on state control and non-interference that shields authoritarian rule. Beijing enforces this model at home through mass surveillance, censorship, arbitrary detention, and the repression of Uyghurs, Tibetans, Christians, Falun Gong practitioners, and pro-democracy voices in Hong Kong. Abroad, it destabilizes the Indo-Pacific region through military pressure on Taiwan, coercion of Japan and the Philippines, border aggression against India, and the militarization of the South China Sea in defiance of international law. Globally, it projects power through diaspora intimidation, economic coercion, cyber operations and political interference, weaponizing capital and supply chains. Simply put, this is a hegemonic state pursuing its interests at the expense of others, including Canada. When Canadian leaders adopt this framing, they legitimize Beijing’s core narrative as Washington views global competition entering a decisive phase. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/praising-beijings-new-world-order-a-costly-misstep-for-carney-and-canada Edited January 20 by suds Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 On 1/17/2026 at 1:39 PM, Zeitgeist said: He said it in a very ominous way too, like he wanted everyone to hear it and perhaps even to worry about it, which immediately made him look like a nervous TBH, his whole speech sounded like that. He did the whole thing in a slow, measured cadence that accentuated his already-blatant ret4rdation, but TBH, in this instance I think that he was doing it because his words were being translated to the Chinese delegation and he wanted them to be able to keep up. He also didn't want their lips to be moving faster than the words were coming out, like in the Bruce Lee movies 😆 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
eyeball Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 1 hour ago, suds said: Simply put, this is a hegemonic state pursuing its interests at the expense of others, including Canada. It certainly is but is it sustainable? China for all it's imagined prowess as the emergent 'Next One' on the global stage is also faced with an increasing need to repress and misinform it's people. Expanding while contracting are two opposing forces cancelling each other out. The harder they clash the greater the consequences. Communism and capitalism in their late stages both seem to have a lot of common problems dealing with the increase in their people's expectations. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: It certainly is but is it sustainable? China for all it's imagined prowess as the emergent 'Next One' on the global stage is also faced with an increasing need to repress and misinform it's people. Expanding while contracting are two opposing forces cancelling each other out. The harder they clash the greater the consequences. Communism and capitalism in their late stages both seem to have a lot of common problems dealing with the increase in their people's expectations. The not so new is that China has quietly been the "Next One" in most economic matters for quite a while now. The one that actually is a "hegemonic state" is the USA and it is the one seemingly pushing for the "New World Order". While there is concern about China...we forget that for a year now the USA (nee Trump) has been the one imposing tariffs and making threats of takeovers if any country opposes his will. His way or the tariff way. The pure definition of "hegemonic state" describes the United States at this time. "A hegemonic state is a dominant country that holds unparalleled military, economic, and political power, shaping the global or regional order by setting rules, providing security, and influencing others through both coercion and consent (ideological leadership)," Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 45 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: "A hegemonic state is a dominant country that holds unparalleled military, economic, and political power, shaping the global or regional order by setting rules, providing security, and influencing others through both coercion and consent (ideological leadership)," There's none that survived its own excesses. And the bigger they were the harder they fell. England is about the only one that landed on a pillow and that's probably because our human population was still small relative to the abundance of natural resources in existence. Hegemony, like the economy, has a feel of desperation to it these days. Everyone is feeling cornered and the waterhole is shrinking faster. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
suds Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: There's none that survived its own excesses. And the bigger they were the harder they fell. England is about the only one that landed on a pillow and that's probably because our human population was still small relative to the abundance of natural resources in existence. Hegemony, like the economy, has a feel of desperation to it these days. Everyone is feeling cornered and the waterhole is shrinking faster. The U.S. became the global hegemonic state with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Up until that time, the USSR and the U.S. were both regional hegemonic states in their own spheres of influence. The one good thing the 'cold war' did accomplish was it did prevent the two from engaging in direct hostilities with one another. While the thought of dividing the world into different spheres of influence might not sound at first as the best of ideas, it's not the worst of ideas either. Edited January 20 by suds 1 Quote
suds Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 I'm beginning to wonder if this dividing the world into different spheres of influence does take hold, how it would affect us directly. If we're not part of the U.S., would we become a 'satellite state'? satellite state..... A satellite state is a country that is officially independent but heavily influenced or controlled by another, more powerful country. This term is often associated with countries that were under Soviet influence during the Cold War, such as those in Eastern Europe. (wiki) Quote
eyeball Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 1 minute ago, suds said: The U.S. became the global hegemonic state with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Up until that time, the USSR and the U.S. were both regional hegemonic states in their own spheres of influence. The one good thing the 'cold war' did accomplish was it did prevent the the two from engaging in direct hostilities with one another. While the idea of dividing the world into different spheres of influence might not sound at first as the best idea, it's not the worst of ideas either. Not at all. I was raised on Star Trek after all and AFAIC countries serve a better purpose these days as a giant shell game for the world's 1% to keep their wealth on the move. Imagine if there was only one government to keep an eye on and hold accountable. I identify an an Earthling and as I often say please get these silly countries off my planet. Loosely speaking though the US was not so much a hegemony as a partner in an alliance during the Cold War. When the Soviet Union collapsed it was like one end of a big tether let go and unleashed hegemonic forces in the US that were until then held in place...again loosely speaking. It looks to me like the US hegemony is on increasingly shakier legs - it'll live fast and die young. For all it's bluster I just don't think it's heart is in it. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 20 Author Report Posted January 20 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Canada is actively manufacturing electric vehicles (EVs) and is currently undergoing a significant transition to become a major hub for the entire EV supply chain. As of early 2026, several major automakers have either started production or are in the final stages of retooling their Canadian facilities: Active and Upcoming EV Production General Motors (Ingersoll, Ont.): Home to Canada’s first full-scale EV plant (CAMI Assembly), which currently manufactures BrightDrop electric delivery vans. CANCELLED , PLANT CLOSED!!!! Stellantis (Windsor, Ont.): Production is beginning for the 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona, the company's first Canadian-made EV mandate. CANCELLED PLANT Closed Honda (Alliston, Ont.): Retooling is underway for a major $15-billion project to build both EVs and batteries, with production expected to scale up through 2026. NOT YET IN PRODUCTION !!! Ford (Oakville, Ont.): While undergoing a major $1.8-billion transition to an EV hub, production start dates were recently shifted to 2027 to align with market demand. FORD AS NOT YET BEGUN and MAY NOT Volkswagen (St. Thomas, Ont.): Constructing a massive gigafactory for EV batteries, with production expected to begin by 2027. SAYS SO BUT NOT YET BEGUN The Battery Supply Chain Canada has recently been ranked as a global leader in the EV battery supply chain. Key projects include: Northvolt (Montreal, Que.): A $7-billion battery gigafactory scheduled to begin operations by the end of 2026. NOT YET BUILT Umicore (Loyalist Township, Ont.): A facility dedicated to building critical battery components. NOT YET MANUFACTURING GM and POSCO (Bécancour, Que.): A joint venture plant for cathode materials expected to be operational in 2025/2026. STILL A VENTURE You forgot to add this: AI can make mistakes, so double-check responses No mistake at all kiddo. Your claim: We don't make any ev's in canada From your own post,,,,, General Motors (Ingersoll, Ont.): Home to Canada’s first full-scale EV plant (CAMI Assembly), which currently manufactures BrightDrop electric delivery vans. It's the first line. The 'FIRST" large scale ev plant. You may have heard of General Motors. Canada absolutely makes ev's and is about to make a lot MORE evs... or at least it was. Unbelievable. Yet again you take the time to prove me right. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 2 hours ago, eyeball said: There's none that survived its own excesses. And the bigger they were the harder they fell. England is about the only one that landed on a pillow and that's probably because our human population was still small relative to the abundance of natural resources in existence. Hegemony, like the economy, has a feel of desperation to it these days. Everyone is feeling cornered and the waterhole is shrinking faster. Well, by pure definition, the US, more Trump than the US, has become a true hegemonic state now. My way or I will punish you.... 2 hours ago, suds said: The U.S. became the global hegemonic state with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Up until that time, the USSR and the U.S. were both regional hegemonic states in their own spheres of influence. The one good thing the 'cold war' did accomplish was it did prevent the two from engaging in direct hostilities with one another. While the thought of dividing the world into different spheres of influence might not sound at first as the best of ideas, it's not the worst of ideas either. The US tried to push its way but was tempered by NATO and the UN primarily (and congress and senate as well) Trump does does it his way or get out of the way. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 56 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No mistake at all kiddo. Your claim: We don't make any ev's in canada From your own post,,,,, General Motors (Ingersoll, Ont.): Home to Canada’s first full-scale EV plant (CAMI Assembly), which currently manufactures BrightDrop electric delivery vans. It's the first line. The 'FIRST" large scale ev plant. You may have heard of General Motors. Canada absolutely makes ev's and is about to make a lot MORE evs... or at least it was. Unbelievable. Yet again you take the time to prove me right. Duhhh you are aware that BrightDrop is shut down?? Yes...I linked but I also added "CANCELLED , PLANT CLOSED!!!!" Guess you could not read tghat far LOL LOL LOL "Yet again you take the time to prove me right. " LOSER LOL LOL LOL "General Motors (GM) ended production of its BrightDrop electric delivery vans at the CAMI Assembly plant in Ingersoll, Ontario, in October 2025" https://news.gm.ca/en/home.detail.html/Pages/news/ca/en/2025/oct/1021_gm-ends-production-of-brightdrop.html https://www.unifor.org/news/all-news/gm-brightdrop-cancellation-cami-latest-trump-policy-casualty And the LOSER has another epic FAIL!!!! LOL LOL LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 16 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Well, by pure definition, the US, more Trump than the US, has become a true hegemonic state now. :The thing is that's simply not true (also you're not using that word quite correctly, but i get the gist of your meaning) First off the dems are completely failing at their job. They could be doing a lot more in the house and the senate to put the breaks on him but it's like they basically wandered off in a stunned stupor after the next election and are now wandering aimelssly and putting up no real fight, So it's not a hedgemony, its just the 'opposition' isn't doing it's job at all. Secondly the midterms are coming up and if the americans don't like what trump is doing it will be very easy for them to give the dems control of the house and sufficient control of the senate to make impeachment a real thing. Trump cannot hold power without the support of the people so they'll have to make real choices. And they'll have to live with the consequences of those choices. SO no, not a hedgemony and that's important. But i'm happy you found a new word to play with, that word of the day calandar is really paying off 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 16 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Duhhh you are aware that BrightDrop is shut down?? And? They're just one plant and were making ev's till like a month ago. We still make ev's in canada, that plant was making them we make the Dodge Charger Daytona (EV), Chrysler Pacifica Plug-in Hybrid, and Lexus Hybrid SUVs (RX/NX) Right now. That plant was just the first. We've been making them for some time, the fact one plant shut down doesn't mean canada isn't still making ev's. Your iq has fallen into the single digits we absolutely make ev's in canada, we have for ages, you provided your own proof of that, you're a tard. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, CdnFox said: :The thing is that's simply not true (also you're not using that word quite correctly, but i get the gist of your meaning) . Nope Hegemony refers to Hegemony refers to the political, economic, or cultural dominance of one group, state, or idea over others, often maintained through a combination of power, consent, and the establishment of norms, making its leadership seem natural or inevitable. It involves leadership through influence, authority, or coercion. Exactly what Trump has been doing Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And? They're just one plant and were making ev's till like a month ago. We still make ev's in canada, that plant was making them we make the Dodge Charger Daytona (EV), Chrysler Pacifica Plug-in Hybrid, and Lexus Hybrid SUVs (RX/NX) Right now. That plant was just the first. We've been making them for some time, the fact one plant shut down doesn't mean canada isn't still making ev's. Your iq has fallen into the single digits we absolutely make ev's in canada, we have for ages, you provided your own proof of that, you're a tard. And...just proving that you were wrong...again LOL Keep up your fantasy...we do not make EV's in Canada. Yes...I linked but I also added "CANCELLED , PLANT CLOSED!!!!" Guess you could not read tghat far LOL LOL LOL "Yet again you take the time to prove me right. " LOSER LOL LOL LOL "General Motors (GM) ended production of its BrightDrop electric delivery vans at the CAMI Assembly plant in Ingersoll, Ontario, in October 2025" https://news.gm.ca/en/home.detail.html/Pages/news/ca/en/2025/oct/1021_gm-ends-production-of-brightdrop.html https://www.unifor.org/news/all-news/gm-brightdrop-cancellation-cami-latest-trump-policy-casualty Sorry LOSER...you FAIL again LOL LOL LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Nope Hegemony refers to Hegemony refers to the political, economic, or cultural dominance of one group, state, or idea over others, often maintained through a combination of power, consent, and the establishment of norms, making its leadership seem natural or inevitable. It involves leadership through influence, authority, or coercion. Exactly what Trump has been doing And there isn't one. You just posted a definition that proves what you said was inaccurate. What is wrong with you? Why do you keep posting things that prove you're wrong? Donald trump was duly elected. He didn't come to power through any special influence authority or coercion . Not only that but he still answers to the senate and the house. So he doesn't have dominance, the other side is just not exercising its authority properly Nor is he creating any new norms. You definition is 100% off. Again, how is it you are this stupid? It's not even close to what trump is doing. Unless you're going to claim that every democracy is a hegemony 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And there isn't one. You just posted a definition that proves what you said was inaccurate. What is wrong with you? Why do you keep posting things that prove you're wrong? Donald trump was duly elected. He didn't come to power through any special influence authority or coercion . Not only that but he still answers to the senate and the house. So he doesn't have dominance, the other side is just not exercising its authority properly Nor is he creating any new norms. You definition is 100% off. Again, how is it you are this stupid? It's not even close to what trump is doing. Unless you're going to claim that every democracy is a hegemony Yup...the definition in accordance with confux vice dictionary LOL Another FAIL.... LOSER LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: And...just proving that you were wrong...again LOL Uhh... no. No you're just having trouble coping with the fact you're wrong again and you wish it were me I literally named Several other models we make right now in canada that you can go buy. Today, workers will wake up and go to work building those ev's. And several plants are retooling to produce more. Some production may be paused in new construction may be delayed due to tariff issues but we're still making them and we have been making them and we're going to continue to make them. Or at least we were, who knows what will happen now. More closures and the like i expect thanks to this deal. 5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yup...the definition in accordance with confux vice dictionary LOL According to the English language. According to the dictionary you yourself quoted You literally once again proved you're wrong. Very fact that there's midterms which may wind up with him being thrown out of office proves it's not a hedge of any by definition, not to mention all the other facts There is nothing you can say that is so stupid that if challenged you won't become even more stupid about. It's absolutely fascinating to watch 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 (edited) 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Uhh... no. No you're just having trouble coping with the fact you're wrong again and you wish it were me I literally named Several other models we make right now in canada that you can go buy. Today, workers will wake up and go to work building those ev's. And several plants are retooling to produce more. Some production may be paused in new construction may be delayed due to tariff issues but we're still making them and we have been making them and we're going to continue to make them. Or at least we were, who knows what will happen now. More closures and the like i expect thanks to this deal. .... Tsk Tsk Tsk....you are such a sad person LOSER LOL There are no EV's being made in Canada. "EVs, or Electric Vehicles, are vehicles powered by electric motors using rechargeable batteries, offering zero tailpipe emissions" There are a few Hybrids but no EV's. Edited January 21 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 9 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Tsk Tsk Tsk....you are such a sad person LOSER LOL Oh dear. You realized you were wrong and now you're in depression mode and having your little freak out I specifically named a specific EV that is specifically made in Canada. Hybrids are also EVS by the way despite your whining So we make actually these, we make hybrids, and we're supposed to be making even more EVS Can always count on you to Triple down on stupid 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: Oh dear. You realized you were wrong and now you're in depression mode and having your little freak out I specifically named a specific EV that is specifically made in Canada. Hybrids are also EVS by the way despite your whining So we make actually these, we make hybrids, and we're supposed to be making even more EVS Can always count on you to Triple down on stupid Tsk Tsk Tsk...you cannot grasp that you are so far off you need road construction ahead of you LOSER LOL LOL LOL None of the models you named are presently being made... you lie and cannot get over your own lie. EV's are not Hybrids....as I have indicated. ""EVs, or Electric Vehicles, are vehicles powered by electric motors using rechargeable batteries, offering zero tailpipe emissions"" and Hybrids do not fit that definition. So as you say we "Can always count on you to Triple down on stupid" as a LOSER like you does regularly. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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