Imported Muslim terrorist offs 11 Jews celebrating the first day of Hanukkah.

[ironstone]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

Land claims lose value as time passes and the Israeli claims are more like 2000 years old.

'Palestinians' are literally the most coddled 'refugees' on the planet. They actually can pass their 'refugee' status down generation to generation. All while they continue to indoctrinate their children to hate Jews. They build nothing positive. All of their efforts go towards harming Israel and its inhabitants. Tunnels, bombs, rockets...and yet so many people in the West choose to stand with Hamas.

Edited December 15, 2025 by ironstone

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Quote from a sermon given by a Baptist minister in the USA:

You guys are all so stupid.

It's hilarious to see you guys try to make bogus claims that contradict each other in the same thread.

So far in this thread, Mike the id10t is trying to pretend that we don't have enough 'anecdotes' to prove a pattern here, while at the same time, you're peddling a couple of low-lvl anecdotes as an insane pattern of violence.

Here's thing: the difference between 1) talking about violence and 2) going to the extreme level to strap a bomb to yourself and blow yourself up at an Ariana Grande concert is orders of magnitude apart.

You're also limited to finding two examples of "talking about violence" from a population of 300M, we're talking about 29 people from Canada's muslim population of 1.5M people who went full-terrorist.

If you're keeping score, that's:

2 low-level threats from 300M people, vs

29 extremists from 1.5M people. 

Which is worse, dummy?

And FYI, muslims who just wanna talk about genocide didn't even get counted here. They're the 3rd tier in that crowd, the second tier being people that help gather weapons, and scheme with them, and keep their secrets...

But FWIW they have hate rallies in Ottawa that people like you attend.

And if you haven't attended yet, guess what, you still count as a person who supports hate rallies and who supports terrorist attacks, but just didn't go yet.

FYI you're one of the people tracked by this stat:

• it's well understood, through decades of surveys and compiling statistics, that when companies receive phone/mail/email complaints, the people making them represent only about 4% of all the people who share that same issue, the rest of them just didn't get off their ass. IOW, for every single person that complains, there are about 25 others who are similarly upset.
• Now think about something as extreme as going out and shooting a bunch of women and children. What percent of people actually get that mad? For each person who goes to that extreme, how many people do you think share the same level of religious bigotry, but are unwilling to go die in a blaze of glory to satisfy allah? Is it just 25? Nah. I think that it's far less than 1/25 that wanna actually murder children. But whatever that ratio is, you're one of them. You're sitting there at your keyboard proudly telling the world that you support terrorism, and that the real number of terrorists isn't limited to the few who commit the attacks... Each attack also represents, not just 25 other violent bigots, but most likely thousands of other violent bigots, exactly like yourself. You are living proof of this stat. Congrats! You just did some math. I bet that's a first.

[Nationalist]

24 minutes ago, ironstone said:

'Palestinians' are literally the most coddled 'refugees' on the planet. They actually can pass their 'refugee' status down generation to generation. All while they continue to indoctrinate their children to hate Jew. They build nothing positive. All of their efforts go towards harming Israel and its inhabitants. Tunnels, bombs, rockets...and yet so many people in the West choose to stand with Hamas.

I "stand" with neither. I am disgusted with both. Were I in Trump's position, I'd encircle the whole area and let them fight it out.

Edited December 15, 2025 by Nationalist

[Radiorum]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Because that is not an opinion anyone holds besides that one guy.

One guy? These pastors have whole congregations listening to them.

have you forgot about the Pulse Nightclub mass murder?

On June 12, 2016, a man fatally shot 49 people and wounded 53 more at Pulse, an LGBTQ+ nightclub in Orlando, Florida

And any religious leader who speaks out about against the extreme haters can expect death threats:

150+ anti-LGBTQ incidents targeting affirming faith-based communities in the US.

And so, to deny the existence of anti-LGBTQ extremists is to deny reality.

 

But, of course not all are extremists, and we should not paint all Christians with the same brush, just like we should not paint all Muslims with the same brush.

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

One guy? These pastors have whole congregations listening to them.

have you forgot about the Pulse Nightclub mass murder?

On June 12, 2016, a man fatally shot 49 people and wounded 53 more at Pulse, an LGBTQ+ nightclub in Orlando, Florida

And any religious leader who speaks out about against the extreme haters can expect death threats:

150+ anti-LGBTQ incidents targeting affirming faith-based communities in the US.

And so, to deny the existence of anti-LGBTQ extremists is to deny reality.

 

But, of course not all are extremists, and we should not paint all Christians with the same brush, just like we should not paint all Muslims with the same brush.

Ya know...had you Libbie freaks not made sexual deviation and LARPing an issue, none of this would have happened. 

As for Muslims, they fit our culture as well as you'd fit in theirs. What do you think would happen if we transplanted millions of Christians or Jews in their lands?

Are you aware of the issues Isreal has?

Edited December 15, 2025 by Nationalist

[User]

9 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

have you forgot about the Pulse Nightclub mass murder?

You mean the terrorist whose parents were Afghan, who pledged his support to ISIS and told police negotiators over the phone his motivations were because of American foreign policy?

 

Edited December 15, 2025 by User

[gatomontes99]

13 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

One guy? These pastors have whole congregations listening to them.

have you forgot about the Pulse Nightclub mass murder?

On June 12, 2016, a man fatally shot 49 people and wounded 53 more at Pulse, an LGBTQ+ nightclub in Orlando, Florida

Moroʻn 

That shooter was Omar Mateen, an ISIS symp and Muslim. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_nightclub_shooting

You just keep proving my point.

 

 

8 minutes ago, User said:

You mean the terrorist whose parents were Afghan, who pledged his support to ISIS and told police negotiators over the phone his motivations were because of American foreign policy?

 

He's such an idjit. I try not to say things like that but sometimes there is just no other way to describe it. 

[ironstone]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Quote from a sermon given by a Baptist minister in the USA:

"There's nothing good to be proud about being a (slur). You ought to blow yourself in the head in the back of the head. You're so disgusting,"

When questioned about it, the church doubled down:

"The Bible is crystal clear that sodomites — homosexuals — deserve the death penalty carried out by a government that actually cares about the law of God,"

 

This is not new. Here is another quote from a Baptist minister in 2022:

"This is why we need to put these people (homosexuals) to death through the proper channels of the government. ... These people are not normal. They’re not your average everyday sinners. ... They have no hope of salvation."

 

 

But in which countries are these people actually being physically thrown off rooftops?

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I stopped reading there.

 

Liar. Anybody who bothers to take the time to write that took the time to read the post. You just don't want to cope with it

. But I do love that your defense is that "I deliberately chose to remain ignorant so that I didn't have to cope with anything you said I didn't like because that made more sense to me".

And what I said doesn't change. The only thing that's sort of changed is that we now know with certainty but you do not base your opinions on reason or logic, but rather only on what does or does not appeal to you.

How very leftist of you

[eyeball]

19 hours ago, User said:

Gun control should be targeted at bad people and preventing bad people from doing bad things or from having guns to begin with, not blanket targeting of the mass population of law-abiding people.

How on Earth do you premeditively tell the bad from the good?

We don't after all put hand railings around balconies for preventing just the stupid people from falling off.

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

One guy? These pastors have whole congregations listening to them.

have you forgot about the Pulse Nightclub mass murder?

On June 12, 2016, a man fatally shot 49 people and wounded 53 more at Pulse, an LGBTQ+ nightclub in Orlando, Florida

And any religious leader who speaks out about against the extreme haters can expect death threats:

150+ anti-LGBTQ incidents targeting affirming faith-based communities in the US.

And so, to deny the existence of anti-LGBTQ extremists is to deny reality.

 

But, of course not all are extremists, and we should not paint all Christians with the same brush, just like we should not paint all Muslims with the same brush.

Dude, that's probably the worst example you could have given. Do some reading on that particular person in their case and you'll find that it is not a good example. It is more likely a case of self-loathing, he frequented that place with others many times. And his religious leader definitely would not have been a pastor

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

How on Earth do you premeditively tell the bad from the good?

 

It's not hard. We do it in Canada although the system has gotten away from us.

Background check before receiving a license. License to be revoked if there's any criminal activity or overt an actionable signs of mental health issues, testing to be done before issuing the license 

Works very well and reduces accidents which is the bigger killer if you exclude organized crime shootings. 

The licenses should be "shall issue" and the test should be challengeable, but other than that it works pretty well. 

But at the end of the day your whole line of reasoning is stupid.  We don't "know' someone will drive a car safely when we let them buy a car, yet we sell cars to just about anyone.  And cars kill more than guns by far. 

we don't "know" someone will use a pocket knife wisely.  Or gasoline, or any number of other tools very common in murders and mass killings.  But we sell them 

SO explain why you want to see guns banned but not cars?

[eyeball]

34 minutes ago, ironstone said:

They actually can pass their 'refugee' status down generation to generation.

All while they continue to indoctrinate their children to hate Jew.

"Mom, Dad....why am I a refugee?"

Where do they even begin?

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

SO explain why you want to see guns banned but not cars?

We deliberately take measures to try and make cars safer. It's an ongoing process that never stops.

Aside from token efforts around clip capacity or firing speed guns just keep deadlier.

How come we never see political fortunes and election campaigns hinging on airbags or better brakes?

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

So far we have Gato, CdnFox and WestCan who are unable to proceed with a discussion on the topic without attacking me personally.  For the record.

Would you have been more comfortable if we had simply called you a chud?

And how could you possibly know, you insisted you stopped reading after the first line of my post which didn't insult you at all. It just said you gave the wrong answer.

And you wonder why people call you a liar

[ironstone]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

"Mom, Dad....why am I a refugee?"

Where do they even begin?

Maybe because back in 1947, the Jews accepted a deal they weren't entirely happy with and made the best of it while the Arabs said no? (and subsequently the Arabs ganged up and attacked Israel)

Maybe the parents could explain the fact that they have continuously rejected every chance for statehood and peace that was offered to them?

https://lawandsocietymagazine.com/how-palestine-rejected-offer-to-have-its-own-state-5-times-in-the-past/

York City, December 4, 2024. (Eugene Gologursky/Getty Images North America/Getty Images via AFP)

Former US president Bill Clinton on Wednesday said young people in America today “can’t believe” that late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat walked away from a Palestinian state during peace negotiations with Israel under his mediation as president.

Clinton added, in reference to the failed Camp David talks of 2000, that having turned down a “once in a lifetime” peace opportunity, “you can’t complain 25 years later when the doors weren’t all still open, and all the possibilities weren’t still there.”

Arafat “walked away from a Palestinian state, with a capital in East Jerusalem, 96% of the West Bank, 4% of Israel to make up for the 4% [of the West Bank to be annexed for Israeli settlements],” Clinton elaborated, repeating an account of the Oslo peace negotiations, to which the ex-president has returned repeatedly in recent interviews and remarks.

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

We had a mosque shooting in Quebec.  Now cite your 29.

That's one "terrorist".

The 29 are the Toronto 18, plus the Parliament Hill guy, Danforth guy, etc, etc. There were 11 other muslims involved in terrorist attacks since 2000. Go look on wiki. 

Why didn't you just look it up?

Quote

We're talking about people here, and whether Muslims are redeemable or even human. 

Wrong. You don't get to shift the goalposts a mile to the left to try to leave your argument in the middle.

Of course muslims are human. Of course some of them are decent. But the fact remains that islam absolutely is a negative behaviour modifier, at a very extreme level. 

MH, can you admit that it just stands to reason that "people who worship a 'prophet' who dedicated his life to violent religious bigotry, genocides, and forcing people into slavery because of their religion", just have a different moral compass than average Canadians?

Is "sharing is caring" all that closely related to a sentiment like "killing Jews is awesome"? Are they kinda the same to you? No? 

Face it Michael, you're gonna rush to judgment about a person who says things like "Clifford Olsen was actually a hero", or "Adolf Hitler is a great guy because he killed all those Jews". And I chatted with a muslim woman on FB who said that last one. I didn't make that up. I even tried to contact Australian intelligence about her because she was attending a justice institute over there, trying to become a cop, and her ultimate goal was to reach the highest level of law enforcement in that country. She said it was like the Australian CIA or some such. I screenshotted her comments and sent them off to Aus, but heard nothing back. 

If you get arrested by a cop, would it be a bit unsettling for you to find out that she thought the holocaust was awesome? Jew or not, it's scary AF to be put in handcuffs by such a person who loves genocides. 

Quote

But first things first: you called me a LIAR.

I said that your claim was false, which just makes you wrong, not a liar. But to be fair, I've called you out for lying dozens of times, albeit never without the required level of evidence. 

Quote

Why would anyone continue a reasonable discussion with a liar?

I don't expect to have a reasonable discussion with you.

I expect you to say the kinds of things that LPoC cultists say, while I come back with reason and truth.

You couldn't even find it in your heart to admit that it was Hitleresque for Trudeau to say that "the unvaxed are very often racists and misogynists", MH. Honestly, who the hell levels that type of accusation against people who just don't want to see young people forced to take improperly tested medications that they don't need? PM Hitler needs to give me an apology if he finds himself within ten feet of me, MH. Believe me.

Quote

If you want to continue to discuss with me, start by taking that back, retracting it.  That way we can be sure neither one of us is wasting our time.

 I'm not taking back Jack spit, Mike.

How about if you stop saying things that are m0r0nic and I will stop pointing out how wrong they are?

You literally tried to pretend that when there are 30 terrorists out of 1.5M people, that's the same thing as when there is 1 terrorist out of 30M people. 

That's 30 times as many terrorists among 1/20th as many people, MH. FYI that means that they're churning out terrorists at 600 times the rate of the others. 

 

For your edification, Michael, here's what "anecdote" means:

• When you limit your discussion to the things that you have personally witnessed, or the first-hand accounts of people you trust, those just constitute "anecdotes". They're like little snippets of truth which may matter, yet they still may only amount to spit in the ocean. However; when you're referencing "all the individual things that happened across an entire country of 40M people over a span of 25 years", that massive collection of "all the pertinent anecdotes" suddenly constitutes "the only meaningful statistic". Yes, Michael, the proper collection of all of the pertinent anecdotes in a series equals a meaningful statistic. Every factual anecdote is part of a statistic. Everything matters. When you can gather a group of 18 people to commit a terrorist attack with you, you're probably surrounded by bad people. And by 'probably', I mean get your head out of your ass.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

We deliberately take measures to try and make cars safer.

We take tons of measures to deliberately make guns safer. However, no matter what you do both cars and guns are going to be deadly if misused

Quote

It's an ongoing process that never stops.

Same with guns. Better actions are created, better safeties are created, you don't see a lot of set triggers on rifles anymore, all kinds of measures are taken so ensure that modern designs don't go off when they're not supposed to, and when they do go  off they don't blow up

 

Quote

Aside from token efforts around clip capacity or firing speed guns just keep deadlier.

No they don't. I doubt you've ever owned a gun, and I'm certain you're prepared to lie about it either way, but explain to me how an M1 garand firing 30*06 cartridges is somehow LESS deadly than an m16 firing 5.56*45? The 30-06 is a FAR more lethal cartridge 

 

Quote

How come we never see political fortunes and election campaigns hinging on airbags or better brakes?

Because not bars like you focus all of their attention on guns and don't act like crazy Psychopaths when it comes to cars.

Interestingly we did see political campaigns hinge on drunk driving measures. In those cases rather than focus on the vehicle and try and make the vehicle drunk proof, attention was focused on the driver and doing what could be done to deal with that.

And lo and behold it worked pretty damn well. Drunk driving accidents historically or way lower especially in Canada. And it didn't involve any modifications to the vehicle in the slightest.

Your knowledge of guns is based on fairy tales and left-wing propaganda. And you've just proven that the way to deal with problems is to deal with the operator not the machinery with your drunk driving example.

Did you have anything else or are you done looking foolish for a bit?

 

[User]

33 minutes ago, eyeball said:

How on Earth do you premeditively tell the bad from the good?

We don't after all put hand railings around balconies for preventing just the stupid people from falling off.

Easy, most bad people have already done bad things. If people like you would support actually punishing them and holding them accountable for their crimes, that means less of them and less of their time, is out on streets harming good people.

To your point, we also don’t stop building things that require hand railings because stupid people still fall off. 

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Maybe the parents could explain the fact that they have continuously rejected every chance for statehood and peace that was offered to them?

Except it was an Israeli who prevented the best chance at peace by assassinating Yitzhak Rabin.

Do you think Israeli parents explain to their kids they fight us because we steal their land while oppressing and subjugating them?

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't expect to have a reasonable discussion with you.

You can't.  You just cannot have any kind of discussion with anyone who won't admit that Islamic terrorism is the majority of terrorism and the many Muslim beliefs are the cause of it.

Is Islam a Violent Religion? – David P. Goldman
 

Quote

 

Jihadists killed 98 percent, or 3,612 of the 3,676 of the terror victims counted in the 2022 Global Terrorism Index.

Most Muslims abhor terrorism. Pew Research reported in 2015: “Muslims mostly say that suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilians in the name of Islam are rarely or never justified, including 92% in Indonesia and 91% in Iraq. In the United States, a 2011 survey found that 86% of Muslims say such tactics are rarely or never justified. An additional 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified.” However, significant Muslim majorities in other countries think terrorism is justified. Pew found that “in a few countries, a quarter or more of Muslims say these acts of violence are at least sometimes justified, including 40% in the Palestinian territories, 39% in Afghanistan, 29% in Egypt, and 26% in Bangladesh.”

 

Hey, you know what would be a great idea?  Bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Pakistan and Bangladesh.  

Even though a significant number of them think suicide bombing are sometimes/often justified and a large part of them think it just be "rare", Canada has MAGIC SOIL.

They completely change their thinking the second their feet hit our MAGIC SOIL.

[ironstone]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Except it was an Israeli who prevented the best chance at peace by assassinating Yitzhak Rabin.

Do you think Israeli parents explain to their kids they fight us because we steal their land while oppressing and subjugating them?

You're conflating ONE incident on the Israeli side while ignoring numerous rejections of generous offers that were made to the other side. Do you think it's fair to put the responsibility for peace entirely on the side of Israel?

And Jews have always had a presence in the region to varying degrees.

It's a sad state of affairs but the truth is, Jews aren't really safe anywhere in the world. Not in Israel, the US, Australia, UK, Germany, France, Canada and on and on.

Israel is a progressive country. Arabs comprise 20% of the total population and they can serve in the Knesset, the IDF, the justice system. They have rights.

The same cannot be said for Jews in any of the neighboring Muslim countries. In fact, there are virtually no Jews in those nations. Why are there no Jews in the Muslim nations?

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We take tons of measures to deliberately make guns safer.

Tons?  LMAO!

With millions kicking and screaming against these measures every inch of the way.

With cars...not so much.

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Interestingly we did see political campaigns hinge on drunk driving measures. In those cases rather than focus on the vehicle and try and make the vehicle drunk proof, attention was focused on the driver and doing what could be done to deal with that.

And lo and behold it worked pretty damn well. Drunk driving accidents historically or way lower especially in Canada. And it didn't involve any modifications to the vehicle in the slightest.

That's right, all the focus was on the individual. And because we can't tell the good guys from the bad guys that meant randomly stopping anyone and everyone to verify they weren't drunk.

Can you imagine the kicking and screaming if the number of gun owners that were randomly checked to verify they weren't radicalized or off their meds was equal to the numbers of people who are randomly pulled over or stopped to ensure public safety?

[WestCanMan]

36 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Jihadists killed 98 percent, or 3,612 of the 3,676 of the terror victims counted in the 2022 Global Terrorism Index.

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, ironstone said:

You're conflating ONE incident on the Israeli side while ignoring numerous rejections of generous offers that were made to the other side.

You're ignoring 80 years of dispossession and oppression Palestinians have been subjected to.

28 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Why are there no Jews in the Muslim nations?

Decades of fear and loathing with demonization and weaponization of the issues and people surrounding the ME Conflict would be my guess.

The same reasons we're seeing it manifest around the world. Everyone is becoming wound up a little too tight and full of themselves for anyone's good and especially their own.