Potential for Poilievre to lose even more - another floor crosser crosses the floor

[ExFlyer]

24 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I should have included this reference too I suppose.

I hear what you guys are saying but I think you're missing a point I made when bringing up disparities in income and access/influence to Liberal and Conservative governments.

Fisheries, as I've tried to point out before, are canaries in a coal mine. You want to see what the economic future of Canada looks like? Look no further. Virtually all the issues you guys are talking about can be found in the history of just about any fishing community around the country and even the world that's fallen on hard times. Its all too often a reflection of mis-management and dishonest unaccountable governance where transparency and lack thereof are at the heart of the issue.

Virtually every single time.

I am sorry... I do not see the connection between fisheries and the treatment of the media.

I know you have a beef with the fisheries people and maybe you should make a thread on that?

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Well, maybe conservatives cannot get elected because their leader comes across as an extremely negative person?

 

Still got almost the same number of votes as Carney.

The liberals cheat, and it pays off. It's something we'll have to learn how to do

[ExFlyer]

27 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Still got almost the same number of votes as Carney.

The liberals cheat, and it pays off. It's something we'll have to learn how to do

Key word...even for you is ALMOST. Close is only good in horseshoes and hand grenades LOL LOL LOL

He was a LOSER...like YOU LOL LOL LOL

HA HA HA...you sound like Trump...the democrats cheated LOL LOL LOL

Face it LOSER...your are done like dinner...even MP's

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

There are acquaintances who specialize in telling us when we’ve lost weight and others who prefer to tell us when we’ve put it on. Both have their value. Poilievre has been getting feedback from across the political spectrum about his abrasive style and confrontational tactics that are

Of course what you're saying came from the CBC first, so I just gotta ask you if you're aware how "abrasive and confrontational" Trudeau was while Harper was PM?

Trudeau had nothing good to say about the gov't at all while leading the LPoC as a member of the opposition, and he didn't support the conservative gov't in any way. In fact, Trudeau was most revered by CBC for his incessant shrieking about $90K duffygate, they led the headline news hour with it for 3 years and then called the 2015 election "a referendum on Duffygate". I'm not exaggerating, Spanky. Negativity was CBC's absolute favourite thing in 2014.

So, my question to you is: "How did you go from wholehearted support of angry & hostile negativity for 3 full years in the early 2010's to being 100% intolerant of civil and reasonable critiques of the gov't for part of one year in 2025?"

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poorly suited to the grave national crisis we face.

Why do we face hostility from India, Spanky? 

They used to be our friends, and then Trudeau insulted the Indian gov't on national TV a bunch of times, played the clown in their traditional clothing, invited a terrorist to inner there, protects Khalistani terrorists, etc. 

Why is America eating our lunch, Spanky? We elected the guy that Trump told us to elect, and the confetti hadn't even hit the ground before Trump put a ball-gag in Carney's mouth. Did you think that Trump really wanted an LPoC PM elected after Trudeau was so insulting towards him? 

Why is China in a trade war with us, Spanky? Because Trudeau was a clown, and then we elected weak, worthless, lying Mark Carney. Remember when Trudeau said: "We can't interfere in the judicial process on behalf of Meng Wanzhou because in Canada the gov't doesn't interfere in matters of the court"? That was both an insult to the Chinese gov't (however correct) and a blatant lie... He had just fired his own AG for not doing his bidding during the SNC Lavalin scandal. FYI it doesn't get any worse than that. Firing the AG to get your way is at the absolute peak of "judicial meddling". 

THE NATIONAL CRISIS THAT WE FACE IS THE 100% A DIRECT RESULT OF LPOC:

• TERRIBLE LPOC FOREIGN AFFAIRS POLICY, INCLUDING TRUDEAU'S HISTORY OF DIRECTLY INSULTING THE POTUS, AND HIS INSULTS TOWARDS INDIA AND CHINA 
• DEBT ISSUES: EVERY LPOC GOV'T OF THE PAST 10 YEARS HAS RUN ATROCIOUS DEFICITS, AND THAT'S COMING ON THE HEELS OF THEIR SUCCESSFUL OBLITERATION OF OUR ENERGY SECTOR
• SECURITY AND DRUG ENFORCEMENT MISMANAGEMENT. NO ONE ELSE TAKES IN PALESTINIAN REFUGEES. NO ONE ELSE TAKES IN iSLAMIC STATE TERRORISTS AND LETS THEM WALK FREE. NO OTHER COUNTRY SUPPORTS AND CONDONES TERRORISM LIKE THE LPOC SUPPORTS THE TALIBAN AND KHALISTANI TERRORISTS. WE ARE NOW A N ACTUAL SECURITY TREAT TO THE US AND INDIA.

No even suspects the LPoC is actually working for Canadians (I forgot to mention that the LPOC randomly accused Canadians of a massive genocide against small 1st Nations children and then didn't even bother to check, and forced millions of Canadians to take a dangerous experimental jab that they did not need). 

When our own gov't is against us, why shouldn't foreign countries take advantage?

What makes you think that the Liberal gov't hasn't just sold us out again, while they're just pretending to care? Have Carney's elbows ever really been up, aside from when he was biting Trump's pillow?

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Key word...even for you is ALMOST.

No, not really. 

23 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Close is only good in horseshoes and hand grenades

Uhhh no.... no it does tend to count in parliamentary elections as well  

I keep forgetting how young you are and that you don't know how our system works. 

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HA HA HA...

I accept your admission of failure  

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

True right wingers would give up on elections and simply do what needs to be done.

What sky is falling nonsense.  Harper did not subvert elections.  

[ExFlyer]

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, not really. 

Uhhh no.... no it does tend to count in parliamentary elections as well  

I keep forgetting how young you are and that you don't know how our system works. 

I accept your admission of failure  

Suck it up buttercup...you LOST, your party was the LOSER..LIKE you are a LOSER LOL LOL LOL

Ahhh yes, I remember..you are pedophile and like em young  LOSER HA HA H A

45 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

What sky is falling nonsense.  Harper did not subvert elections.  

You are right. He was a true conservative and as rule,normally an excellent parliamentarian.

[SpankyMcFarland]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

How are you going to answer the question or are you going to dishonestly avoid it again

I have honestly presented my point of view which is backed by the simple facts of the situation. Poilievre managed to blow a massive lead, lost his own seat and now faces defections. None of this is made up by me. Under such circumstances, a little more self-criticism is merited from the Tories. 

[Goddess]

This is a good, though brief, rundown of Ma's Chinese connections.

Not that Liberal supporters will care, they will support all this.

Unless it was Conservatives.

 

 

35 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Poilievre managed to blow a massive lead,

Or it was sabotaged by Trump and the Chinese.

[TreeBeard]

44 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Not that Liberal supporters will care, they will support all this.

Unless it was Conservatives.

He was a Conservative until 20 minutes ago.  Did he sprout these links to China spontaneously once he became a Liberal?   Why did the Cons allow this?

Edited December 15, 2025 by TreeBeard

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

Why did the Cons allow this?

I already said before that the Cons need to vet their candidates better. You're not exactly being profound 🙄

I believe his CTCCO appearance was from Oct, after the election.  And the meeting with the Chinese ambassador was only earlier this week.....

The Markham riding was rife with CCP influence, which is why I think he was either a plant or Beijing got their claws into him somehow.

Either way, he's clearly CCP now and will fit in perfectly with the Liberal caucus.   He's all yours now.  🤣

Elbows up, for Great Leader, comrade!

 

 

[Chrissy1979]

Wasn’t there a floor crosser who went from the Liberals to the Conservatives a few years ago? Checks notes: yes, Leona Alleslev was her name. 

[TreeBeard]

Poilievre was on Rosemary Barton’s CBC show today.  Is this his first interview on a media outlet that aren’t conservative partisans?  
 

 

39 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Either way, he's clearly CCP now

Riiiight….   This just happens to come out now.  😂 

15 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Wasn’t there a floor crosser who went from the Liberals to the Conservatives a few years ago? Checks notes: yes, Leona Alleslev was her name. 

But that was different!   😝 

[Goddess]

I think the biggest problem with Lib supporters is their inability to see the bigger picture on anything.

Right now, they're all "Woo-hoo!  We got one of your guys!  We're winning, you're losing!  We're the greatest, you're the losers!"

Bigger picture - Canada has a serious CCP problem.  We allow Chinese police stations to harass our Chinese diaspora, Chinese fentanyl flows freely from both Vancouver and Toronto ports. They freely interfere with our elections.  They own massive amounts of real estate in key cities.

We had this problem during the Biden administration, the Biden administration tried to get Canada on board with dealing with it.  The Liberal gov't refused.  Trump brought it up, same Liberal gov't again refused.  Refused to secure our borders.  Refused to cooperate on drug cartels.  Only us and China retaliated on tariffs.

I watched an interview today with Kash Patel and he was giving a rundown of national security issues for the US - he said when he was appointed, one of the Tier One priorities given to him was CCP influence.

Trump just made a deal with a bunch of other countries on critical minerals, to combat CCP control of that market.  Canada was not invited to be a part of that, in spite of us having massive amounts of critical minerals.

I think the US is keeping a very close eye on us.

They're invoking the Monroe Doctrine about national sovereignty with Venezuela and they'll do it with Canada, too.

I think when we are fully captured by the CCP, which will be soon, the US is getting prepared to take us over, to "save" us from ourselves.  

They don't want to live next door to the Chinese.  And the Liberal party seems determined to make us a province of China.

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Suck it up buttercup...you LOST, your party was the LOSER..LIKE you are a LOSER LOL LOL LOL

 

That's the kind of thing a 12-year-old would say  

Sounds like you're having a bit of a freak out, still emotionally broken from this morning are you?

I see the latest polling numbers today...  once again carney is down in his favorability and the cpc is tied even with the libs  

Even if he manages to get a better majority, there's a million things that can happen to cause Carney's government to fail and every month without fail people like him less. And they absolutely hate the liberals.

I guess you're getting a little scared and nervous again. Honestly you shouldn't worry about these things this much. Your mom's going to run out of underwear

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

This just happens to come out now.  😂

He's only been in politics since running in the last election, 8 months ago.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I think the biggest problem with Lib supporters is their inability to see the bigger picture on anything.

Right now, they're all "Woo-hoo!  We got one of your guys!  We're winning, you're losing!  We're the greatest, you're the losers!"

Bigger picture - Canada has a serious CCP problem.  We allow Chinese police stations to harass our Chinese diaspora, Chinese fentanyl flows freely from both Vancouver and Toronto ports. They freely interfere with our elections.  They own massive amounts of real estate in key cities.

We had this problem during the Biden administration, the Biden administration tried to get Canada on board with dealing with it.  The Liberal gov't refused.  Trump brought it up, same Liberal gov't again refused.  Refused to secure our borders.  Refused to cooperate on drug cartels.  Only us and China retaliated on tariffs.

I watched an interview today with Kash Patel and he was giving a rundown of national security issues for the US - he said when he was appointed, one of the Tier One priorities given to him was CCP influence.

Trump just made a deal with a bunch of other countries on critical minerals, to combat CCP control of that market.  Canada was not invited to be a part of that, in spite of us having massive amounts of critical minerals.

I think the US is keeping a very close eye on us.

They're invoking the Monroe Doctrine about national sovereignty with Venezuela and they'll do it with Canada, too.

I think when we are fully captured by the CCP, which will be soon, the US is getting prepared to take us over, to "save" us from ourselves.  

They don't want to live next door to the Chinese.  And the Liberal party seems determined to make us a province of China.

 

One of the primary differences between the liberals and the conservatives is that the conservatives genuinely care about the welfare of Canada moving forward. The liberals supporters care about the moment and that's it and their tribalism, and the liberal party cares about lining his pockets it doesn't care if Canada Burns tomorrow as long as they're walking away with bags of money

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Poilievre was on Rosemary Barton’s CBC show today.  Is this his first interview on a media outlet that aren’t conservative partisans?  
 

 

Riiiight….   This just happens to come out now.  😂 

But that was different!   😝 

She crossed the floor and then almost immediately went into an election

She didn't get elected And then crossed the floor. She crossed the floor and then very quickly faced her constituents in an election.

I think everyone would be fine with this floor crossing if he gave up his seat and ran as a liberal. But I think we both know that that's not going to happen

But sure, crossing the floor and then immediately facing your constituents in an election is exactly the same as crossing the floor and then trying to serve 4 years.

Is there anything the left won't lie about?

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The liberals supporters care about the moment

I'm completely baffled at the 🔥 hair-on-fire 🔥reaction to being taken over by the US, contrasted with the utter delight at getting snuggly with and being taken over by the Chinese.

The latter is the far greater threat.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

I'm completely baffled at the 🔥 hair-on-fire 🔥reaction to being taken over by the US, contrasted with the utter delight at getting snuggly with and being taken over by the Chinese.

The latter is the far greater threat.

No it's not! Carney said so!

If these people could think past tomorrow there wouldn't be a liberal party in the first place.

[TreeBeard]

6 hours ago, Goddess said:

I'm completely baffled at the 🔥 hair-on-fire 🔥reaction to being taken over by the US, contrasted with the utter delight at getting snuggly with and being taken over by the Chinese.

The latter is the far greater threat.

Why haven’t you mentioned all these Chinese schemes with respect to this guy?  I bet if MP Ho jumped to the Libs, he would suddenly turn into a Chinese commie spy!  

 

https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/vincent-neil-ho(123153)

 

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's the kind of thing a 12-year-old would say  

...

I see the latest polling numbers today...  once again carney is down in his favorability and the cpc is tied even with the libs  

...Your mom's going to run out of underwear

Suck it up pedophile buttercup...you LOST, your party was the LOSER..LIKE you are a LOSER LOL LOL LOL

On the contrary...Carney is waaaay over PP in favourability but you are right,.. the conservative party and Liberal party are in a virtual tie. Thing is...people vote for the person more than they vote for the party.

And PP ius aLOSER...like you LOL

[ExFlyer]

13 hours ago, Goddess said:

This is a good, though brief, rundown of Ma's Chinese connections.

Not that Liberal supporters will care, they will support all this.

Unless it was Conservatives.

 

 

Or it was sabotaged by Trump and the Chinese.

So...you are claiming Ma had Chinese connections and you are dissing the libs???

You realize he was conservative party member and elected as a conservative???

Can you be any more hypocritical?? He was great when he was conservative but not when he chose to see the light and move to the liberals???

You are become9ng as much of a LOSER as confuyx LOL

[Goddess]

Do you just wake up every morning and immediately search for my posts and Fox's so you can downvote them?

You realize how childish this looks, don't you?  Or maybe not.

Either way, it's incredibly bizarre how obsessed you are with us.

 

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You realize he was conservative party member and elected as a conservative???

Ya, I do.

But he's yours now.

Have fun. 🤣

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

He was great when he was conservative

He's been in politics for about 8-9 months.

Nobody really had an opinion on him.

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Do you just wake up every morning and immediately search for my posts and Fox's so you can downvote them?

Yep. 

16 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You realize how childish this looks, don't you?  Or maybe not.

Nope  

16 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Either way, it's incredibly bizarre how obsessed you are with us.

 

Yep.

But it's not that strange for a 12 - 15 year old to obsess like that. it's fairly obvious he has it's a pretty serious emotional issues.