Why is Canada buying so much oil from Saudi Arabia instead of from Alberta?

[blackbird]

Canada bought about 1.5 billion dollars worth of oil from Saudi Arabia in 2023.  This sounds like a lot of oil.  Canada should be supporting our own oil industry in Alberta which would bring in billions of dollars additional royalties and taxes and create thousands more jobs.  It is bizarre that we have to import our oil from other countries instead of supporting our own oil industry.  It would seem especially important now with Trump's tariffs to be supporting our own industries.

Once shunned, Saudi crown prince is Trump’s guest of honour. Canada is warming up, too

[Shady]

Because that way libtards can keep emissions down by having somebody else produce oil for us.

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

Because that way libtards can keep emissions down by having somebody else produce oil for us.

How about a sensible reply, maybe from someone with enough knowledge of how business works to run a popsicle stand?

There's no pipeline to bring it back east 50 years overdue. Something sensible and more important than a pipe west to sell to Asians. Everyone says to take care of our own first, but no one acts to.
My sister in NS converted her home from oil to propane because it was cheaper and gas was coming and you only need to change nozzles. That was in 2014 and still no LNG

[blackbird]

Of course buying oil from Saudi Arabia instead of our own country helps fight climate change.  Only Canadians cause climate change if they produce and sell oil, eh.  Is that what the Green party and her liberal-NDP friends say?

[ExFlyer]

Because Quebec will not let a pipeline go through...they would rather have hundreds of rail tankers so they can have another Lac Megantic disaster and get federal money to help with the rebuilding. 

 

[herbie]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Of course buying oil from Saudi Arabia instead of our own country helps fight climate change.  Only Canadians cause climate change if they produce and sell oil, eh.  Is that what the Green party and her liberal-NDP friends say?

It hasn't got anything to do with climate change. You're so stuck on some principles you disagree with you imagine they have something to do with everything else you disagree with. Like so many others.
It's got to do with $$$$ the thing you so totally agree with. The oil companies, gas stations and refineries are in it to make as much as they can, absolutely no other reason. Just like every business is.
They could buy Alberta oil and gas out of Texas terminals and pay more if they were there to serve yours and Canada's best interest, which they aren't.

[taxme]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Of course buying oil from Saudi Arabia instead of our own country helps fight climate change.  Only Canadians cause climate change if they produce and sell oil, eh.  Is that what the Green party and her liberal-NDP friends say?

But it is all okay for Saudi Arabia to emit all of those nasty and terrible emissions into the air. This country is so full of crazy mf insane people. Starting with the WEF globalist Marxist lieberal buffoons who refuse in trying to help make Canada great. 

RIP Canada. You are already dead as a real country anymore. We need Alberta to separate from this gawd forsaken chit hole country and Canada can go to hell. Canada is already in hell. This is what a country will get and what lieberal communism is all about. Destroy your own country while helping other countries to grow and make plenty of money. 

It is time to separate from Canukistan Alberta. Go, Alberta, go. Works for me!! 

[taxme]

12 minutes ago, herbie said:

It hasn't got anything to do with climate change. You're so stuck on some principles you disagree with you imagine they have something to do with everything else you disagree with. Like so many others.
It's got to do with $$$$ the thing you so totally agree with. The oil companies, gas stations and refineries are in it to make as much as they can, absolutely no other reason. Just like every business is.
They could buy Alberta oil and gas out of Texas terminals and pay more if they were there to serve yours and Canada's best interest, which they aren't.

What climate change? I look out my window every day and i still see no big changes in the environment. Climate change is all just plain bull shit, and sadly, so many imbeciles in la-la land believe it to be oh so real. 

When the day comes when i see MT. Baker in Washington state loses all of it's snow on the top of the mountain, then i may think twice about some climate change going on. But until then, get lost with your climate change nonsense. 👎

[Shady]

22 hours ago, herbie said:

How about a sensible reply, maybe from someone with enough knowledge of how business works to run a popsicle stand?

There's no pipeline to bring it back east 50 years overdue. Something sensible and more important than a pipe west to sell to Asians. Everyone says to take care of our own first, but no one acts to.
My sister in NS converted her home from oil to propane because it was cheaper and gas was coming and you only need to change nozzles. That was in 2014 and still no LNG

And the reason there's no pipeline is of emissions targets.  We can say we're serious about climate change, while shipping in oil from overseas that somebody else produces, which actually causes more emissions than if we produced it ourselves.

[eyeball]

20 hours ago, blackbird said:

Of course buying oil from Saudi Arabia instead of our own country helps fight climate change.  Only Canadians cause climate change if they produce and sell oil, eh.  Is that what the Green party and her liberal-NDP friends say?

The other side of this Big Lie about how puny and irrelevant conservatives say our emissions are completely ignores the fact the fossil fuels we export are burned - as if the fact someone else burns it washes our hand of any complicity or responsibility for global effects of our products whatsoever.😇

AI Overview

In 2023, the CO2 emissions from Canada's exported fossil fuels reached 1,030 million tonnes, which is more than the country's domestic emissions that year. These "scope 3" emissions, which are produced when the exported fuels are burned, significantly surpassed Canada's domestic emissions of approximately 702 million tonnes. 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by eyeball

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

And the reason there's no pipeline is of emissions targets.

Oh FFS spread the BS on as thick as you can why don't you?

There is no pipeline east is that no one has offered to build one. The reason is because it's not financially viable. And it will remain so unless there's come middle east embargo that goes on for years.
Even then they'd squeal and finagle to get the govt to pay for it.

[BeaverFever]

“Canada” doesn’t buy, import or distribute oil.   The private companies in the oil industry do, most of which are foreign or US-owed and couldn’t give a flying fck about Canada. Why don’t you ask them?  Im sure they’ll tell  you that it’s a global market and on any given day they buy it from wherever it damn well pleases them and they ship it to wherever it damn well pleases them and then they’ll tell you you’re a lefty enviro-communist for daring to question them   

[ExFlyer]

On 11/20/2025 at 1:09 PM, Shady said:

And the reason there's no pipeline is ....

because Quebec will not let one go through Quebec.

Pretty simple. No conspiracy, nothing other than Quebec will not allow it.

[Nefarious Banana]

59 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Quebec will not let one go through Quebec.

No conspiracy, nothing other than Quebec will not allow it.

They enjoy the pipeline of money Alberta pumps into their province year after year . . . 

[blackbird]

On 11/20/2025 at 11:58 AM, herbie said:

There is no pipeline east is that no one has offered to build one. The reason is because it's not financially viable. And it will remain so unless there's come middle east embargo that goes on for years.

 

Wow!  You need to do some reading.  A simple search will tell you why the Energy East project was cancelled.  It was cancelled mainly because of regulatory hurdles (under Trudeau) and opposition from Quebec, FNs, environmental radicals, and liberal/NDP/Green politicians.

"The Energy East project was terminated primarily due to regulatory hurdles and opposition. Key factors included:

Regulatory Uncertainty: The National Energy Board's decision to re-scope the project and its subsequent changes led to significant uncertainty for TransCanada. 

Political Opposition: Activists and local leaders, including Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre, opposed the project on environmental grounds, which contributed to its cancellation. 

Market Conditions: A significant drop in oil prices and the lack of support from key stakeholders, including the federal government, also played a role in the project's demise. 

These factors combined created a challenging environment for the Energy East project, ultimately leading to its cancellation in October 2017.

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Edited November 25, 2025 by blackbird

[blackbird]

On 11/20/2025 at 11:58 AM, herbie said:

There is no pipeline east is that no one has offered to build one.

Why are you pretending there was no Energy East pipeline proposal that was killed under Trudeau?

[eyeball]

46 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Why are you pretending there was no Energy East pipeline proposal that was killed under Trudeau?

It was the combined effort of millions of people that killed it.

The project was also strongly opposed by some Canadians on scientific grounds. The Pembina Institute released a report urging the National Energy Board to consider the impact on carbon emissions, estimating the project's upstream impact as being between 30 and 32 million tonnes of carbon emissions per year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_East#:~:text=There were a number of,cancellation (Oct 5th 2017) the

You really want people like Trudeau given the power to do what they're told to by industry?

Edited November 25, 2025 by eyeball

[herbie]

50 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Why are you pretending there was no Energy East pipeline proposal that was killed under Trudeau?

Because I don't have to. The govt does not build pipelines. You claim to be a Conservative so you should be shaming Justin for using your money to cpmplete TMX.

And it won't be building one West either. Some company will have to, if that's profitable. 
And the fact the Empress of Alberta is at it again despite a previous respung NO is because she's too chickenshit to take on Ontario and Quebec to build the one that's really needed.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

It was the combined effort of millions of people that killed it.

The project was also strongly opposed by some Canadians on scientific grounds. The Pembina Institute released a report urging the National Energy Board to consider the impact on carbon emissions, estimating the project's upstream impact as being between 30 and 32 million tonnes of carbon emissions per year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_East#:~:text=There were a number of,cancellation (Oct 5th 2017) the

You really want people like Trudeau given the power to do what they're told to by industry?

The Pembina Institute is a radical environmentalist organization, partly funded by foreign money.  They are opponents of the Canadian energy industry.

[suds]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Because I don't have to. The govt does not build pipelines. You claim to be a Conservative so you should be shaming Justin for using your money to cpmplete TMX.

And it won't be building one West either. Some company will have to, if that's profitable. 
And the fact the Empress of Alberta is at it again despite a previous respung NO is because she's too chickenshit to take on Ontario and Quebec to build the one that's really needed.

I  have no reason to believe the Empress will have any problems with Saskatchewan or Ontario...

From the Office of the Premier (Ontario)

July 22,2025

Today’s MOU calls for the new pipelines to be built using Ontario steel along a route that will connect western Canadian oil and gas to new and existing refineries in southern Ontario, as well as a new deep-sea port in James Bay. The MOU also calls for new rail lines, also built using Ontario steel, to connect critical mineral deposits located in Ontario’s Ring of Fire region to ports in Western Canada.

“We are sending a clear signal that Canada’s energy future will be built by Canadians, for Canadians,” said Premier Moe. “This agreement commits our provinces to work together to unlock new markets, shore up our supply chains from mine to port and advocate for the federal reforms our industry needs. By advancing pipelines, rail connections and critical-mineral processing capacity, we are safeguarding thousands of jobs, strengthening our energy security and fostering sustainable growth.”

Under the agreement, Saskatchewan joins Ontario and Alberta in a coordinated effort to accelerate the development of major nation-building projects. This initiative reflects a shared commitment to supporting workers and industries across provincial boundaries while reducing Canada’s reliance on any single trading partner.

“We’re taking action to grow our economy, build real infrastructure and get major projects moving,” said Premier Smith. “Alberta is proud to lead the way in uniting with provinces that share a vision for responsible development, economic freedom and common sense. We’re standing up for our oil and gas sector and making sure our world-class resources reach the markets that need them. Together, Alberta, Ontario and Saskatchewan are showing what’s possible when provinces step up. This agreement is about building a stronger, more connected Canada, one project at a time.”

As part of the agreement, the three provinces will advocate for a more competitive federal regulatory environment alongside an updated federal review process based on the “One Project, One Process” principle with deference to provincial processes. Each province also reaffirmed its commitment to fulfilling its duty to consult with Indigenous communities and to support meaningful participation in economic opportunities for Indigenous communities and proponents, including through equity partnerships in major projects.

Today’s MOU builds on Ontario’s leadership in strengthening internal trade and expanding economic cooperation. Since April 2025, Ontario has signed 10 MOUs with other provinces and territories to reduce internal trade barriers. Ontario recently passed the Protect Ontario Through Free Trade Within Canada Act, making it the first jurisdiction in Canada to eliminate all party-specific exceptions under the Canadian Free Trade Agreement.

 

What can I say? It's a start and somebody has to do it.

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Edited November 25, 2025 by suds

[blackbird]

There are people on here that can't think rationally at all.  No matter what anyone says about supporting our energy industry, they say NO and give no rational reason.  Total waste of time.   It's a bit like trying to reason with someone with serious mental disability that can only say one or two words.  

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

The Pembina Institute is a radical environmentalist organization, partly funded by foreign money.  They are opponents of the Canadian energy industry.

You disagree with the science Pembina conducted?

Burning 1 million barrels of Alberta Crude per day will in fact produce 317,000 metric tons of CO2. That's almost 116 million tons per year.

That's just from one pipeline and Alberta wants pipelines going in every direction.

Most Canadians do not want to make climate change worse than it is by adding more and more CO2 year after year after year.

 

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You disagree with the science Pembina conducted?

Burning 1 million barrels of Alberta Crude per day will in fact produce 317,000 metric tons of CO2. That's almost 116 million tons per year.

That's just from one pipeline and Alberta wants pipelines going in every direction.

Most Canadians do not want to make climate change worse than it is by adding more and more CO2 year after year after year.

 

I wouldn't waste my time arguing with insanity and fictitious nonsense.  That's how they make their living, spreading manure (BS.

[eyeball]

Just now, blackbird said:

I wouldn't waste my time arguing with insanity and fictitious nonsense.  That's how they make their living, spreading manure (BS.

It's science buddy, that means it's refutable but you need to refute it with science not the manure you're spreading.

[Nefarious Banana]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's science buddy, that means it's refutable but you need to refute it with science not the manure you're spreading.

Why are you and herbie so anti Canada?  So anti self sufficient?  Sometimes wonder if either of you are indeed Canadian.