Why is Canada buying so much oil from Saudi Arabia instead of from Alberta?

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Why are you and herbie so anti Canada?  So anti self sufficient?  Sometimes wonder if either of you are indeed Canadian.

Speaking for myself I'm simply an Earthling.

You want me to go back to where I came from?

[TreeBeard]

On 11/18/2025 at 8:46 PM, blackbird said:

It is bizarre that we have to import our oil from other countries instead of supporting our own oil industry.

Why are you in favour of new pipelines just to ship our oil out of the country?  Shouldn’t you be in favour of refining and using it in Canada?  

[Gaétan]

Carney’s pipeline is nothing but lies, easier said than done

[Legato]

 

[BeaverFever]

21 hours ago, Legato said:

 

This is why Conservatives can’t get elected. Even when they get what they want they complain they’re the victims and try to stir up controversy.
 

But I guess when the right is complaining you sold out tot eh left and the left is complaining you sold out to the right, you know you’re in a reasonable spot. Notably, “the NDP Premier” points out that the MOU doesn’t require BC approval at all, so once again PP is caught in a lie. 

[BeaverFever]

On 11/25/2025 at 2:38 PM, blackbird said:

The Pembina Institute is a radical environmentalist organization, partly funded by foreign money.  They are opponents of the Canadian energy industry.

The Alberta oil patch is also funded by foreign money, far more than environmental charities and non-profits. Some oil patch companies are majority foreign owned and controlled  
 

That’s why they don’t want to do any refining or value-add in Canada, they want to continue the colonial model off forcing Canadians to sell unrefined crude overseas at wholesale discount prices and then import it refined petroleum products back at a retail premium.  They just want to feed their offshore value chains to please their foreign masters rather than building a Canadian value chain that builds a strong Canada. 

[Legato]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

This is why Conservatives can’t get elected. Even when they get what they want they complain they’re the victims and try to stir up controversy.
 

But I guess when the right is complaining you sold out tot eh left and the left is complaining you sold out to the right, you know you’re in a reasonable spot. Notably, “the NDP Premier” points out that the MOU doesn’t require BC approval at all, so once again PP is caught in a lie. 

His actual words....

“Today’s memorandum does not promise a pipeline will be built. It promises that seven months from now, a pipeline proposal will be referred to a federal office for two further years of study. After that, the Prime Minister will award B.C.’s NDP Premier the power to veto it altogether – a veto that violates the Constitution. 

[ExFlyer]

4 minutes ago, Legato said:

His actual words....

“Today’s memorandum does not promise a pipeline will be built. It promises that seven months from now, a pipeline proposal will be referred to a federal office for two further years of study. After that, the Prime Minister will award B.C.’s NDP Premier the power to veto it altogether – a veto that violates the Constitution. 

Becasue the indigenous hold the pipelines shut until they get what they want.

The BC NDP already has veto power.

A veto does not violate the constitution.

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Becasue the indigenous hold the pipelines shut until they get what they want.

The BC NDP already has veto power.

A veto does not violate the constitution.

Whereas Section 92.10(a) of the Constitution grants the federal government exclusive authority over interprovincial pipelines. Whereas courts and the federal Major Projects Office have confirmed that provinces have no veto over such projects.

[ExFlyer]

32 minutes ago, Legato said:

Whereas Section 92.10(a) of the Constitution grants the federal government exclusive authority over interprovincial pipelines. Whereas courts and the federal Major Projects Office have confirmed that provinces have no veto over such projects.

Whereas the indigenous can veto anything going through their land.....

[Legato]

14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Whereas the indigenous can veto anything going through their land.....

just like they stopped the trans mountain...er okay.

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

The Alberta oil patch is also funded by foreign money,

Yes, and that is a good thing.  Without foreign companies and their investments we wouldn't have the thousands of good-paying jobs and billions of dollars in royalties and taxes in Canada to pay for all of our health care, and other services we receive.  Foreign companies is why Canada is prosperous and Alberta is the most prosperous province in Canada.  T

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

That’s why they don’t want to do any refining or value-add in Canada,

That is an obvious lie.

I asked Google the question, do we have oil refineries in Canada?

"Yes, Canada has refineries for oil. As of 2025, there are 17 operational refineries in Canada, with a total refining capacity of nearly 2 million barrels of oil per day. These refineries are operated by various companies, including Imperial Oil, Shell Canada, and Suncor Energy, which manage multiple facilities across the country. Refineries in different regions process a mix of domestically produced and imported crude oil. 

Pocket Option+3    unquote

We are at capacity for oil refineries in Canada.   We need to ship and sell our oil overseas to make Canada an energy superpower.

 

Now I will go to McDonalds and get a great one dollar coffee from a great foreign company.

[ExFlyer]

36 minutes ago, Legato said:

just like they stopped the trans mountain...er okay.

Trans mountain was already mostly built when The feds took over. ":While opposition is significant, dozens of Indigenous groups have signed mutual benefit agreements with Trans Mountain, some even seeking an ownership stake in the project."

But hey, if it makes you feel better.  OK have it your way.

 

Edited November 29, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Trans mountain was already mostly built when The feds took over. ":While opposition is significant, dozens of Indigenous groups have signed mutual benefit agreements with Trans Mountain, some even seeking an ownership stake in the project."

But hey, if it makes you feel better.  OK

I will not argue with you. 

I'm just making the point that, like it or not, indigenous groups objections at the end of the day that's all they are, objections. Their veto is in name only.

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

This is why Conservatives can’t get elected. Even when they get what they want they complain they’re the victims and try to stir up controversy.
 

But I guess when the right is complaining you sold out tot eh left and the left is complaining you sold out to the right, you know you’re in a reasonable spot. Notably, “the NDP Premier” points out that the MOU doesn’t require BC approval at all, so once again PP is caught in a lie. 

It is the same lie as you say as Carney has said, there will be no project approval unless it is approved by premiers and first nation so according to the PM there is a veto...two in fact...

[TreeBeard]

5 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

It is the same lie as you say as Carney has said, there will be no project approval unless it is approved by premiers and first nation so according to the PM there is a veto...two in fact...

Shouldn’t private industry want a pipeline first?  Shouldn’t they also foot the bill?  What happened to conservatives who used to deplore handouts to private industry?

[Army Guy]

3 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Shouldn’t private industry want a pipeline first?  Shouldn’t they also foot the bill?  What happened to conservatives who used to deplore handouts to private industry?

Yes, and Yes, but having federal government assistance is not out of the question....But do you think current policies are negating those private investments, things like tanker ban, emissions caps, etc etc....In todays world i think Canada could use any help it can get in regards to making investment come back to Canada...Liberals did all they could to stimmy all of that...

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

It is the same lie as you say as Carney has said, there will be no project approval unless it is approved by premiers and first nation so according to the PM there is a veto...two in fact...

But it’s not in the MOU. This is all moot anyways nobody in the private sector actually wants a new pipeline there’s not even olan sitting on shelf somewhere to dust off. What we’ll probably get is expanded capacity on TransMountain, which the federal government still owns and can’t find a an interested buyer for. If we cant find a buyer for an already operating and less controversial pipeline what hope is there for a hypothetical highly controversial pipeline that hasn’t even been designed mapped or fully conceived beyond theory?