Bear true allegiance To Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II of Canada Her Heirs and Successors......

[cougar]

This is part of the oath I took some 20+ years ago, not knowing who I was swearing allegiance to.

Queen Elizabeth II reportedly spent more time with her horses than with her kids, which might explain why some of them kids turned out the way they did.

The more disturbing part is that for decades she successfully defended their abusive,  unethical, debauched or criminal behavior right till her dying day!

Does my oath still stand?  Can monarchy continue to exist?

So much rot, all over the place - there, south of us, in our country, even in this forum.........

 

 

 

 

[Queenmandy85]

You have been mis-led by republican lies. Andrew is the only black sheep. King Charles, Princes Anne and Prince Edward are nothing like you describe. The American presidency has many incumbants whose abuse, debauchery and unethical behaviour put's Andrew's behaviour to shame, from Adams, to Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Kennedy to Trump. The only presidents in the 20th century to my knowledge, who did not have a mistress were Nixon and Carter.

12 hours ago, cougar said:

Queen Elizabeth II reportedly spent more time with her horses than with her kids,

You have no understanding of the workload the Queen had. Her entire life was dedicated to service to Canada and her other realms and territories. That does not leave much time for traditional parenting.

So, yes, your oath still stands and you should be honoured to have the privilege to making it.

12 hours ago, cougar said:

This is part of the oath I took some 20+ years ago, not knowing who I was swearing allegiance to.

You clearly still do not know anything about the King of Canada.

If you compare our monarchs to US Presidents, since Edward the Confesor, we have had 43 monarchs. 8 of whom was unsatisfactory. The Americans have had 47 Presidents and you can't find 8 who were actually any good.

[cougar]

4 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

So, yes, your oath still stands and you should be honoured to have the privilege to making it.

 

Nope, it does not.

You clearly did not watch the video above and do not have much info on the subject

Kings have been the same throughout the history. What changed in the 21st century for them is Internet and cell phones allowing for quick collection and dissemination of evidence. 

That buffoon south of us thinks he has slept with enough 14-17 year olds to be a coronated king.  It may well be so.

 

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, cougar said:

Queen Elizabeth II reportedly spent more time with her horses than with her kids, which might explain why some of them kids turned out the way they did.

"Reportedly" lol. Stow it.

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The more disturbing part is that for decades she successfully defended their abusive,  unethical, debauched or criminal behavior right till her dying day!

Did I just hear that from a f'ing Trudeau supporter? 🤣

STOP! I'm gonna die laughing ffs.

No doubt you support islam, a religion where marrying children is legal, with a prophet who married a young child himself...?

Now ask me if I care about the fact that Prince Andrew might have had sex with a 17-yr-old, at a time when the age of consent was 14 in Canada? Do you even have proof that she was 17 at the time, or especially that he knew that she asn't older than that? What was he told? What did she say to him? You don't know, so shut your f'ing trap.  

FYI the age of consent in Canada is still just 16, and that's because Harper's conservative gov't fought to bump it up 2 years. Your precious NDP and LPOC would still have it at 14. 

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Does my oath still stand? 

Yes, because you have no proof that their loyalty to you was lacking.

Sure, an oath can be terminated by the actions of the recipient though. Part of any oath of fealty is the implicit understanding that the loyalty goes both ways. So if the sovereign decides to kill you for no reason, you're obviously not duty bound to jump off a cliff just 'cuz they said so. 

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Can monarchy continue to exist?

The monarchy never inflicted covid fascism on us, forced kids to take a dangerous pseudovax that they didn't need, or beat peaceful protesters in the street, so I trust them more than I trust the dirtbags in the LPOC.

King Charles is our actual sovereign, as per our constitution. LONG LIVE THE KING!

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So much rot, all over the place - there, south of us, in our country, even in this forum.........

Gimme a break, cougar.

What were you saying and doing while our LPOC was forcing kids to take a jab which we KNEW to have both dangerous, permanent and even lethal side effects? 

Who can a person like yourself possibly ever look down on? Is  a pedophile, rapist or murderer all that much worse than you? It's debatable. 

Edited November 15, 2025 by WestCanMan

[herbie]

Oh FFS swearing an oath to someone who waves from a car, shakes hands and gets their picture on the back of increasingly worthless coins is nothing more than acknowledging their right to do just that.
Far better than some Republican ritual of pledging allegiance daily to a Constitution and thinking that means to an actual tyrant that believes they have the 16th Century Divine Right of Kings for a set term.

You swore an oath to a figurehead, an institution, to your form of democratic govt. a better form of which no one has yet come up with.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS swearing an oath to someone who waves from a car, shakes hands and gets their picture on the back of increasingly worthless coins is nothing more than acknowledging their right to do just that.
Far better than some Republican ritual of pledging allegiance daily to a Constitution and thinking that means to an actual tyrant that believes they have the 16th Century Divine Right of Kings for a set term.

You swore an oath to a figurehead, an institution, to your form of democratic govt. a better form of which no one has yet come up with.

We re-elected a narcissistic criminal here twice, mainly because he managed to use 1.4B taxpayer dollars to blatantly bribe the media. 

That's not a "Democratic success story", herbie. 

Point to the page in "Democracy for Huge Idjits" where you saw "using gov't money to bribe the media is good for a democracy"...

[herbie]

Save that for the dupes stunned enough to believe you.
Tossing 'criminal' out to describe actions you merely don't like is not how law works. Dumb enough to state that a Trudeau places his own interest before that of the country pretty much advertises your lack of integrity.

[cougar]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

STOP! I'm gonna die laughing ffs.

 

King Charles is our actual sovereign, as per our constitution. LONG LIVE THE KING!

Laughter is good for you.  Happy I can help

As for Charles, from what I know he had an affair with Camila at the time he was marrying Diana.    May be a few steps above Andrew but not very far up.

There is a saying that goes a pear does not fall too far off the tree.

Edited November 16, 2025 by cougar

[cougar]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

You swore an oath to a figurehead, an institution, to your form of democratic govt. a better form of which no one has yet come up with.

They have to get rid of all that nonsense in the oath then!

I would rather swear allegiance to the Canadian beaver than the Queen and her heirs and successors.  

[herbie]

Me too. Or if they dump the notwithstanding clause, to the Constitution.

The days of For King and Country are long over. Country is all.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, cougar said:

Laughter is good for you.  Happy I can help

As for Charles, from what I know he had an affair with Camila at the time he was marrying Diana.    May be a few steps above Andrew but not very far up.

There is a saying that goes a pear does not fall too far off the tree.

They lived under a microscope. What percent of people do you think have cheated on their spouse or a girlfriend/boyfriend?

[Queenmandy85]

6 hours ago, cougar said:

You clearly did not watch the video above and do not have much info on the subject

Yes I did. It is a criticism of Andrew presented to sell a book writen by a republican.

Andrew is the black sheep of the family. No one disputes that. 

3 hours ago, cougar said:

As for Charles, from what I know he had an affair with Camila at the time he was marrying Diana. 

Charles wanted to marry Camila long before he met Diana. However, whom he could marry was not his choice. The marriage to Diana was arranged as a matter of state. 

Constitutional Monarcy is the best form of government in the world. Republics gave us Xi, Putin, Kim and Trump. Constitutional Monarcy gives us New Zealand, Norway, Japan, Sweden, the Netherlands, Danmark, Australia, and Canada. 

Had the left wing radial Patriots failed to win America's first civil war against American Conservatives, slavery would have been abolished thirty years sooner. Ironically, of King George III had been the tyrant American mythology paints his as, slavery would have been abolished in 1760.

Go Riders.

[Army Guy]

6 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS swearing an oath to someone who waves from a car, shakes hands and gets their picture on the back of increasingly worthless coins is nothing more than acknowledging their right to do just that.
Far better than some Republican ritual of pledging allegiance daily to a Constitution and thinking that means to an actual tyrant that believes they have the 16th Century Divine Right of Kings for a set term.

You swore an oath to a figurehead, an institution, to your form of democratic govt. a better form of which no one has yet come up with.

It has nothing to do with the democratic government....we swear allegiance to the monarch as a form of protection so your government can not declare war or send troops against it's own people with out some checks and balances being sought first.. Most security departments do not swear allegiance to the government it is to the queens representative....

 

[herbie]

Oh grasp at straws ro maintain a tradition if that's what's holy.
Parliament can tell the King to f*ck off if it ever wants to. No physical beheading necessary.

Mulroney embarassed the Queen when he asked her for more Senators to pass the GST which the citizens loathed knowing she couldn't say no. Some people simply don't want to admit the GG is the real end of the line in modern times.

[Queenmandy85]

The Crown is not required to be popular. He is anointed to oversee the operation of the nation, to give advice and receive advice to and from the Ministry, to receive advice from Parliament, to appoint or dismiss his designate (GG), appoint or dismiss the Ministery, appoint judge, Senators, appoint the Ministries of the Provinces and Territories, etc. 

10 hours ago, herbie said:

Parliament can tell the King to f*ck off if it ever wants to.

Just how would that work? The Canadian Constitution locks in the role of the Crown. And why? Since he became King,  Charles has consistently polled higher than any politician in Canada, as did the late Queen. But, as I said, it is not a popularity contest. 

[Moonbox]

On 11/15/2025 at 11:28 AM, Queenmandy85 said:

You have been mis-led by republican lies. Andrew is the only black sheep. King Charles, Princes Anne and Prince Edward are nothing like you describe

Harry is a tool as well, and he was a tool long before he met the Meg.  

[herbie]

5 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

The Crown is not required to be popular. He is anointed to

You misinterpret the reality. "The Crown" is a term for Canada, not the Monarch. All the positions you mentioned are appointed by Canada, not the Monarch. The Crown is us acting supposedly on behalf of the monarch, who has never and will not act otherwise.

[Army Guy]

17 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh grasp at straws ro maintain a tradition if that's what's holy.
Parliament can tell the King to f*ck off if it ever wants to. No physical beheading necessary.

Mulroney embarassed the Queen when he asked her for more Senators to pass the GST which the citizens loathed knowing she couldn't say no. Some people simply don't want to admit the GG is the real end of the line in modern times.

It is not tradition it is how our entire government is set up and run...want to cut out the royal family would be harder than you think and would cost bils....does our government need to be reworked....sure it does, but to what ? do we even have the will to change it...

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

You misinterpret the reality. "The Crown" is a term for Canada, not the Monarch. All the positions you mentioned are appointed by Canada, not the Monarch. The Crown is us acting supposedly on behalf of the monarch, who has never and will not act otherwise.

Appointed by Canada but must be approved by the King....and while it is ceremonial, we still follow the policies...

[cougar]

On 11/15/2025 at 7:42 PM, WestCanMan said:

They lived under a microscope. What percent of people do you think have cheated on their spouse or a girlfriend/boyfriend?

That was not simply "cheating".   Andrew was hiring dozens of prostitutes every night under his mother's nose.

A totally rotten and immoral b-d who did not care about the future of the institution he represented or those on whose backs he lived.

But as I say, if the queen turned a blind eye , she was complicit and unworthy to be a monarch.

 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, cougar said:

That was not simply "cheating".   Andrew was hiring dozens of prostitutes every night under his mother's nose.

A totally rotten and immoral b-d who did not care about the future of the institution he represented or those on whose backs he lived.

But as I say, if the queen turned a blind eye , she was complicit and unworthy to be a monarch.

How popular a person is among the left4rd MSM is directly proportional to the percentage of their alleged affairs and rapes that get media coverage.

The Hollywood 'casting couch' was the world's best-known dirty little secret for generations, and then suddenly Harvey Weinstein was left holding the bag for some reason.

Do you think he was the first/only one? Do you think he was the worst offender?  

Gimme a break. He pissed someone off, and now he's "the only one" 😂

The last thing I'm gonna do is judge rich and powerful men by how many tarts they allegedly stuck their junk in, because almost every one of them did it, and the ones that didn't still covered for the others, which is still the same indiscretion. If the Rock cheats on his wife ten times a day, and has sex with underage hookers, no one's gonna talk about it right now, just like they didn't talk about Weinstein, Diddy or Epstein when they were part of the "in" crowd. 

I really doubt the Rock is guilty of that, and I have no grounds for suspicion whatsoever, so I shouldn't have used his name, but I think you get the point. If he was guilty, no one would be talking about it and anyone who said a peep would get cancelled. (How long did Arnie have a kid that looked exactly like him and when did that story get out? When he was 15 or something like that?) I bet that the Rock could rape a 15-yr-old in front of Whoopi Goldberg and Hillary Clinton and at least one of them wouldn't say a word about it. 

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But as I say, if the queen turned a blind eye , she was complicit and unworthy to be a monarch.

I guess that the true history of the monarchy would shock the shit outta you. 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I guess that the true history of the monarchy would shock the shit outta you. 

That history certainly helped contribute to the gradual ongoing descent of the monarchy into irrelevancy.

It's much the same way with powerful men too. It's a stepwise process - albeit 1 forward 2 back at times judging by the adoration for the philandering rapist in Chief in the White House at the moment.

 

Edited November 26, 2025 by eyeball

[cougar]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The last thing I'm gonna do is judge rich and powerful men by how many tarts they allegedly stuck their junk in,

That's the first thing I will judge them by.  Then I know how they became rich and powerful.

 

[taxme]

On 11/15/2025 at 8:28 AM, Queenmandy85 said:

You have been mis-led by republican lies. Andrew is the only black sheep. King Charles, Princes Anne and Prince Edward are nothing like you describe. The American presidency has many incumbants whose abuse, debauchery and unethical behaviour put's Andrew's behaviour to shame, from Adams, to Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Kennedy to Trump. The only presidents in the 20th century to my knowledge, who did not have a mistress were Nixon and Carter.

You have no understanding of the workload the Queen had. Her entire life was dedicated to service to Canada and her other realms and territories. That does not leave much time for traditional parenting.

So, yes, your oath still stands and you should be honoured to have the privilege to making it.

You clearly still do not know anything about the King of Canada.

If you compare our monarchs to US Presidents, since Edward the Confesor, we have had 43 monarchs. 8 of whom was unsatisfactory. The Americans have had 47 Presidents and you can't find 8 who were actually any good.

So, just what has the American presidency and his incumbents have done to have shown any abuse, debauchery and unethical behavior in anyway to anyone? Just asking? 

Who cares about her workload? She is dead now. We have a King of Canada today whom many believe had a hand in his wife's death.  

So, just what is there to know about the King of Canada? All he seems to be doing these days is just sitting back and watch as Canada burns. Not much of a King for Canada there. 

Can you show me as to how many PM's of Canada were any good for this country since the days of Sir John A. Macdonald and In the creation of Canada where at the time we had some good PM's of Canada but not anymore.

It is for sure that the last PM and this present day PM have done nothing to help make Canada great. Matter of fact they both have done a great job of trying to destroy Canada and burn it to the ground. Canada has now become a joke and the world knows it all too well. Canada needs to go RIP. Here's hoping soon!! Cheers!! 😇

[taxme]

On 11/15/2025 at 1:00 PM, cougar said:

Nope, it does not.

You clearly did not watch the video above and do not have much info on the subject

Kings have been the same throughout the history. What changed in the 21st century for them is Internet and cell phones allowing for quick collection and dissemination of evidence. 

That buffoon south of us thinks he has slept with enough 14-17 year olds to be a coronated king.  It may well be so.

 

Where is your proof that Trump has slept with 14 - 17 years old? Are you bull shitting again, lieberal? Is that what it takes to become a coronated king? I did not know that? Wow. ☹️

Thank gawd for the internet because we would never have learned anything about how bad and what some of the bad things that our not so great politicians have done, like their blowing billions of our tax dollars on communist lieberal programs and agendas.

But thanks to the internet and social media, i have been learning a lot about your two dear Marxist leaders, Turdeau and Carnage the barbarian and what they have both been doing in trying to destroy Canada. Bad boys! 

The buffoon that we now have north of the border is one big bad sob for Canada and Canadians. And dummies like you keep voting for scumbags that enjoy trying to destroy Canada and Canadians. You should be bloody well ashamed of yourself for keep voting for rascals that could careless about Canada or Canadians. 

Your hero is trying to go for net zero in Canada. But yet, the buffoon has done over a million or so of flying and travelling around the world and emitting tons of green house gases. So much for his efforts and beliefs in trying to fight climate change, eh? Lieberals like you are nothing more than a bundh of lying hypocrites. 

While America has ICE, Canada has nice. 🤪